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fishmike
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1/21/2015  9:46 PM
Is if we can use the D league to build a couple of good young solid role players to flesh out the roster. Im not looking for Linsanity, just good basketball players. A guy who might start or platoon or be a key bench guy. A guy who will give you 12ppg, 3rebs and be good defensive player and a ball mover. Guys who are older as in 4 year college players are often overlooked, despite being some of the best players in CBB. 23-24 years old isn't sexy for a prospect in basketball but our eyes show us otherwise.

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1/21/2015  9:50 PM
Thanasis is languishing and toiling down there

Time to call him up Phil and give him a cheap deal


Stop farting around and bring him home

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1/21/2015  9:51 PM
I think the D-league pool will be dry in a few weeks and the Knicks are not cutting Lou or Lance anytime soon. So, I think the next step after the deadline when they'll cut bargs and maybe a couple of other players is to go after overseas guys that seasons have ended.
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1/21/2015  10:02 PM
F500ONE wrote:Thanasis is languishing and toiling down there

Time to call him up Phil and give him a cheap deal


Stop farting around and bring him home

Needs to work on his shot, Would rather him stay there and work on it then him being called up for next season

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1/21/2015  10:06 PM
TPercy wrote:
F500ONE wrote:Thanasis is languishing and toiling down there

Time to call him up Phil and give him a cheap deal


Stop farting around and bring him home

Needs to work on his shot, Would rather him stay there and work on it then him being called up for next season


He can work on his shot here practicing

Against this team against legit NBA talent


Then maybe get in a game garbage time or something

We only need defense from him for now

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1/21/2015  10:07 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I think the D-league pool will be dry in a few weeks and the Knicks are not cutting Lou or Lance anytime soon. So, I think the next step after the deadline when they'll cut bargs and maybe a couple of other players is to go after overseas guys that seasons have ended.
I am not sure about the d l pool drying up but I agree that they need to look at guys coming back from China etc. I believe the season in China ends towards the end of February.
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1/21/2015  10:08 PM
F500ONE wrote:
TPercy wrote:
F500ONE wrote:Thanasis is languishing and toiling down there

Time to call him up Phil and give him a cheap deal


Stop farting around and bring him home

Needs to work on his shot, Would rather him stay there and work on it then him being called up for next season


He can work on his shot here practicing

Against this team against legit NBA talent


Then maybe get in a game garbage time or something

We only need defense from him for now

No point in rushing him back, it is not like we are trying to win or anything

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1/21/2015  10:09 PM
F500ONE wrote:Thanasis is languishing and toiling down there

Time to call him up Phil and give him a cheap deal


Stop farting around and bring him home

I am not sure that he is ready and right now he belongs to the KNicks but isn't taking up a roster spot. Maybe after the trade deadline but I think the smart thing to do is bring him in next year. He also is an easy asset to use in a trade as he is essentially the same as a euro stash guy now except that he is working with Knick coaches.
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1/21/2015  10:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/21/2015  10:11 PM
no point in bringing him up this year, he would count as 1 year salary
Thanasis would be eligible for a huge raise eventually, would use cap space in the neighborhood of 1m starting to lock him him for a 3year deal with team option for 3rd


We need players that make little money locked in so in 2017 we can preserve cap space and sign another big FA when we will attract more talent with the development of our young talents and hopefully executing a team system with chemistry


So no future poison pills as he is a mid/late 2nd rounder that would be eligible only for 2 years otherwise if we do not use cap space or exemptions to lock him up for 3years
He would have to agree though, like KJ McDaniels who was unwilling to sign a 2 year deal at the minimum and just signed a 1 year deal making him a UFA this summer

He is another player I would like to lock up in the range of 2-3m per year to pair with Thanasis

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1/21/2015  10:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/21/2015  10:17 PM
RonRon wrote:no point in bringing him up this year, he would count as 1 year salary
Thanasis would be eligible for a huge raise eventually, would use cap space in the neighborhood of 1m starting to lock him him for a 3year deal with team option for 3rd


We need players that make little money locked in so in 2017 we can preserve cap space and sign another big FA when we will attract more talent with the development of our young talents and hopefully executing a team system with chemistry


So no future poison pills as he is a mid/late 2nd rounder that would be eligible only for 2 years otherwise if we do not use cap space or exemptions to lock him up for 3years
He would have to agree though, like KJ McDaniels who was unwilling to sign a 2 year deal at the minimum and just signed a 1 year deal making him a UFA this summer

He is another player I would like to lock up in the range of 2-3m per year to pair with Thanasis

Ron how many times have I provided the example

Of what his deal would look like


We could sign him now for very cheap and control the options on yrs

It's a matter if he and his camp would agree


I think going on 2yrs not sniffing the Big Boy league says he signs

You do know what his deal could look like right?

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1/21/2015  10:13 PM
I love what the Knicks are doing with the d league. Sanchez has been more consistent and looks like he might have a shot at being an nba player. If the Knicks end up with two out of the three guys they protected from the d league draft contributing in the nba it would be quiet a success story.
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1/21/2015  10:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/21/2015  10:40 PM
I have a different spin on this draft.
Listen up, Phil.

Just before the draft, I'm trading Melo to the Bulls for their two first round picks (#11 and #17) and Nikola Mirotic, PF. I'm also sending the difference between what the Bulls offered (90 million?) and what Melo signed for (125 million) minus this year's salary. Let's say between 25-30 million to the Bulls. I'm thrilled to get out of that ridiculous contract and dump the iso/ego maniac on someone else's lap even if I have to give them a boatload of money.

Then, on draft night, I'm trading my lottery pick and Tim Hardaway, Jr. to Boston for picks #7 and #21 in this year's draft and Boston's top #1 pick in next year's draft plus Jae Crowder, SF.

I walk out of the draft with 4 picks in the top 21 this year and a 2016 first round pick as well as two starting caliber young players. I could attain the likes of Russell, Oubre, WCStein, Grant, Portis, Kaminsky, or others
in this years draft.

I strongly feel that free agents will be more attracted to come here WITHOUT MELO than if MELO was to stay on the roster. So, I'll roll the dice in free agency and maybe grab other pieces like Dragic or Mathews. Finally, I'd fill out the remaining roster spots with team hungry players like Galloway.

Yeah, the team outlined above will probably play .333 ball in 2016, but at least it will have direction and hope as well as a #1 draft pick again next year. We'd also have a boatload of money for some bigtime free agent next year.

And that's the name of that tune, folks.

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1/21/2015  10:58 PM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:I have a different spin on this draft.
Listen up, Phil.

Just before the draft, I'm trading Melo to the Bulls for their two first round picks (#11 and #17) and Nikola Mirotic, PF. I'm also sending the difference between what the Bulls offered (90 million?) and what Melo signed for (125 million) minus this year's salary. Let's say between 25-30 million to the Bulls. I'm thrilled to get out of that ridiculous contract and dump the iso/ego maniac on someone else's lap even if I have to give them a boatload of money.

Then, on draft night, I'm trading my lottery pick and Tim Hardaway, Jr. to Boston for picks #7 and #21 in this year's draft and Boston's top #1 pick in next year's draft plus Jae Crowder, SF.

I walk out of the draft with 4 picks in the top 21 this year and a 2016 first round pick as well as two starting caliber young players. I could attain the likes of Russell, Oubre, WCStein, Grant, Portis, Kaminsky, or others
in this years draft.

I strongly feel that free agents will be more attracted to come here WITHOUT MELO than if MELO was to stay on the roster. So, I'll roll the dice in free agency and maybe grab other pieces like Dragic or Mathews. Finally, I'd fill out the remaining roster spots with team hungry players like Galloway.

Yeah, the team outlined above will probably play .333 ball in 2016, but at least it will have direction and hope as well as a #1 draft pick again next year. We'd also have a boatload of money for some bigtime free agent next year.

And that's the name of that tune, folks.

I would never make that deal with the bulls unless they threw in another 1st rounder and Tajy.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/21/2015  11:02 PM
mreinman wrote:
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:I have a different spin on this draft.
Listen up, Phil.

Just before the draft, I'm trading Melo to the Bulls for their two first round picks (#11 and #17) and Nikola Mirotic, PF. I'm also sending the difference between what the Bulls offered (90 million?) and what Melo signed for (125 million) minus this year's salary. Let's say between 25-30 million to the Bulls. I'm thrilled to get out of that ridiculous contract and dump the iso/ego maniac on someone else's lap even if I have to give them a boatload of money.

Then, on draft night, I'm trading my lottery pick and Tim Hardaway, Jr. to Boston for picks #7 and #21 in this year's draft and Boston's top #1 pick in next year's draft plus Jae Crowder, SF.

I walk out of the draft with 4 picks in the top 21 this year and a 2016 first round pick as well as two starting caliber young players. I could attain the likes of Russell, Oubre, WCStein, Grant, Portis, Kaminsky, or others
in this years draft.

I strongly feel that free agents will be more attracted to come here WITHOUT MELO than if MELO was to stay on the roster. So, I'll roll the dice in free agency and maybe grab other pieces like Dragic or Mathews. Finally, I'd fill out the remaining roster spots with team hungry players like Galloway.

Yeah, the team outlined above will probably play .333 ball in 2016, but at least it will have direction and hope as well as a #1 draft pick again next year. We'd also have a boatload of money for some bigtime free agent next year.

And that's the name of that tune, folks.

I would never make that deal with the bulls unless they threw in another 1st rounder and Tajy.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. Nobody minds a pig, but they hate a hog. My trade is reasonable. Yours is reaching a bit, IMO. My idea is to get what you can for Melo before he's not worth even what I suggested. By the time we're good again, he'll be another Amare (anchor around our necks). He needs to go to a team that is ready to win now. That ain't us...far from it.

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1/21/2015  11:35 PM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:
mreinman wrote:
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:I have a different spin on this draft.
Listen up, Phil.

Just before the draft, I'm trading Melo to the Bulls for their two first round picks (#11 and #17) and Nikola Mirotic, PF. I'm also sending the difference between what the Bulls offered (90 million?) and what Melo signed for (125 million) minus this year's salary. Let's say between 25-30 million to the Bulls. I'm thrilled to get out of that ridiculous contract and dump the iso/ego maniac on someone else's lap even if I have to give them a boatload of money.

Then, on draft night, I'm trading my lottery pick and Tim Hardaway, Jr. to Boston for picks #7 and #21 in this year's draft and Boston's top #1 pick in next year's draft plus Jae Crowder, SF.

I walk out of the draft with 4 picks in the top 21 this year and a 2016 first round pick as well as two starting caliber young players. I could attain the likes of Russell, Oubre, WCStein, Grant, Portis, Kaminsky, or others
in this years draft.

I strongly feel that free agents will be more attracted to come here WITHOUT MELO than if MELO was to stay on the roster. So, I'll roll the dice in free agency and maybe grab other pieces like Dragic or Mathews. Finally, I'd fill out the remaining roster spots with team hungry players like Galloway.

Yeah, the team outlined above will probably play .333 ball in 2016, but at least it will have direction and hope as well as a #1 draft pick again next year. We'd also have a boatload of money for some bigtime free agent next year.

And that's the name of that tune, folks.

I would never make that deal with the bulls unless they threw in another 1st rounder and Tajy.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. Nobody minds a pig, but they hate a hog. My trade is reasonable. Yours is reaching a bit, IMO. My idea is to get what you can for Melo before he's not worth even what I suggested. By the time we're good again, he'll be another Amare (anchor around our necks). He needs to go to a team that is ready to win now. That ain't us...far from it.

There is no way in bloody hell that the bulls make that deal! I thought you were joking.

if they GM did that he should be taken out and hung in the center of chicago as a lesson for all.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/21/2015  11:41 PM
can we trade langston galloway for derrick rose... even trade? lol
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1/21/2015  11:43 PM
Cartman718 wrote:can we trade langston galloway for derrick rose... even trade? lol

hell no!

Gallo stays.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/22/2015  12:57 AM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:I have a different spin on this draft.
Listen up, Phil.

Just before the draft, I'm trading Melo to the Bulls for their two first round picks (#11 and #17) and Nikola Mirotic, PF. I'm also sending the difference between what the Bulls offered (90 million?) and what Melo signed for (125 million) minus this year's salary. Let's say between 25-30 million to the Bulls. I'm thrilled to get out of that ridiculous contract and dump the iso/ego maniac on someone else's lap even if I have to give them a boatload of money.

Then, on draft night, I'm trading my lottery pick and Tim Hardaway, Jr. to Boston for picks #7 and #21 in this year's draft and Boston's top #1 pick in next year's draft plus Jae Crowder, SF.

I walk out of the draft with 4 picks in the top 21 this year and a 2016 first round pick as well as two starting caliber young players. I could attain the likes of Russell, Oubre, WCStein, Grant, Portis, Kaminsky, or others
in this years draft.

I strongly feel that free agents will be more attracted to come here WITHOUT MELO than if MELO was to stay on the roster. So, I'll roll the dice in free agency and maybe grab other pieces like Dragic or Mathews. Finally, I'd fill out the remaining roster spots with team hungry players like Galloway.

Yeah, the team outlined above will probably play .333 ball in 2016, but at least it will have direction and hope as well as a #1 draft pick again next year. We'd also have a boatload of money for some bigtime free agent next year.

And that's the name of that tune, folks.


Not sure we can send them all that money.

In principle, I have no issue using Anthony in this kind of deal if there are willing partners out there.

In essence, trading Anthony in this kind of scenario will be the same as if we had done a sign and trade with the Bulls instead of what we actually did.

Chicago has some choices to make. They are in a win now period, with some older players and players with potential injury issues making up a good part of their nucleus. They need scoring and that is one thing Anthony can do. They also have- when everyone is healthy- enough D to protect Anthony and minimize his defensive deficiencies.

Anthony may get to the Finals in this scenario, and we do a real rebuild. Win win situation.

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1/22/2015  1:48 AM
Give me Kentucky BIGS, just 3 of them and I would be very happy, maybe add in that guy from Duke
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1/22/2015  8:54 AM
Have to love UK. Try to start a thread about a young guy coming up and playing well and it turns into a Melo bashing circle jerk.

In other news Galloway played really well last night. I know its fueled by desperation to salvage something enjoyable about this season but Im already projecting this guy in line ups for next year. I mean he's ALWAYS been able to shoot it. He's very athletic.. the question is can he guard NBA wings and can he play the PG? So far its looking like he belongs. Could be a real gem.

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