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BRIGGS
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1/19/2015  1:50 PM
If anyone has watched how they play defense with a team that is not overly talented he'd be perfect for a team of young players I know wed eat 20 mm of fischer but its good money spent. Let's face it Fischer is not the guy you feel comfortable going 4ward with unless we had our own draft pix
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1/19/2015  2:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/19/2015  2:22 PM
Tony Bennett is an excellent defensive coach, especially on the college level. However, I'm curious as to how his defensive philosophy would work in the NBA. Bennett plays a pack line defense which is a sagging man-to-man defense that almost looks like zone. The pack line was designed by his father, Dick Bennett, who used it because his teams weren't as athletic as the opposition. Basically, the pack-line defense is meant to stop dribble penetration, and clog the interior. I've studied this defense as I'm a coach as well, however, the pack-line would have to move out a bit in the NBA because the 3-point line is further out and the help defenders would have longer to travel especially on skip-passes. Also, there are so many long range shooters in the NBA I wooder how effective the defense would be as it. Some adjustments would have to be made.

This defense would work best against PG's and teams that rely on dribble drive. Teams like the Spurs and Hawks and teams that work the ball and require lots of movement shouldn't have too much of a problem adjusting to this defense. But with that said, it is an interesting defense that rely's heavy on ball pressure, and help defense that clogs the gaps. This defense is killer on the HS level against teams that can't shoot.

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1/19/2015  2:22 PM
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so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/19/2015  2:44 PM
Pretty sure Phil Jackson will not settle for anything but the Triangle

While I do not agree with that, if that is the path he chooses, Shaw should be brought in as Fisher is not ready
Now can we collect the talent to develop the system and execute it

Will we try to go all in and try to compete with CA, go young, or try to develop younger talent?
Unless major ALL STAR's are coming like Lebron, maybe sending CA to the highest bidder in the West is the best for him and us at this point
His value will only go lower if we are unable to produce a winning team around him as we saw Tyson Chandler's value drop with us...

If we do get the #1 overall pick we should be looking to pair talents with the pick and Thanasis as our core
Surrounding them with players that FIT their skills and will help speed their development
We need to develop chemistry and sign cheap talent rather than overpay for players

I would target players with MAX contracts like Kawaii, Draymond Green, Jimmy Butler, etc, with MAX contracts with or without CA
We need players that are YOUNG, versatile, hard working, high IQ, very good on DEFENSE on 1v1 and TEAM DEF, and will improve EVERYONE one the court collectivelly as a whole

Even if we do now get all these players, it doesn't matter, we limit our contenders from improving and we can see what is out there, put pressure on other teams and contracts, and look to sign the right combination of talents together
We simply cannot afford to let these teams continue to get better as we are very limited in terms of picks, cap space, and young talent

CA is a talent that we simply cannot afford with our inabilities to surround him with enough talent to compete before he will decline
Moving on will be best for him and our franchise, moving forward
We need talents that are under 26 for our future while establishing a WINNING CULTURE
Moving him to a team that has the ability to contend, defend, and could use his ability to spread the floor/score and has a SET system in place that can utlize him like he was on TEAM USA is his best bet if he wants to ever win

We are a joke in this league and we have parlayed too much of our future and limited our ability to improve since trading for CA
While every other team has 15+ picks and more in the next couple of years we have 1 pick every other year
So FA, D League, and Foreign Talent is where we must look at in terms of improving our roster, on top of our whatever we can get our of our cap space/roster

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1/19/2015  2:49 PM
RonRon wrote:Pretty sure Phil Jackson will not settle for anything but the Triangle

While I do not agree with that, if that is the path he chooses, Shaw should be brought in as Fisher is not ready
Now can we collect the talent to develop the system and execute it

Will we try to go all in and try to compete with CA, go young, or try to develop younger talent?
Unless major ALL STAR's are coming like Lebron, maybe sending CA to the highest bidder in the West is the best for him and us at this point
His value will only go lower if we are unable to produce a winning team around him as we saw Tyson Chandler's value drop with us...

If we do get the #1 overall pick we should be looking to pair talents with the pick and Thanasis as our core
Surrounding them with players that FIT their skills and will help speed their development
We need to develop chemistry and sign cheap talent rather than overpay for players

I would target players with MAX contracts like Kawaii, Draymond Green, Jimmy Butler, etc, with MAX contracts with or without CA
We need players that are YOUNG, versatile, hard working, high IQ, very good on DEFENSE on 1v1 and TEAM DEF, and will improve EVERYONE one the court collectivelly as a whole

Even if we do now get all these players, it doesn't matter, we limit our contenders from improving and we can see what is out there, put pressure on other teams and contracts, and look to sign the right combination of talents together
We simply cannot afford to let these teams continue to get better as we are very limited in terms of picks, cap space, and young talent

CA is a talent that we simply cannot afford with our inabilities to surround him with enough talent to compete before he will decline
Moving on will be best for him and our franchise, moving forward
We need talents that are under 26 for our future while establishing a WINNING CULTURE
Moving him to a team that has the ability to contend, defend, and could use his ability to spread the floor/score and has a SET system in place that can utlize him like he was on TEAM USA is his best bet if he wants to ever win

We are a joke in this league and we have parlayed too much of our future and limited our ability to improve since trading for CA
While every other team has 15+ picks and more in the next couple of years we have 1 pick every other year
So FA, D League, and Foreign Talent is where we must look at in terms of improving our roster, on top of our whatever we can get our of our cap space/roster

Good post.

You don't want wes mathews? Can't understand how anyone could not be high on him. I hope the market agrees with you and we can get him for cheaper.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/19/2015  3:15 PM
BRIGGS wrote:If anyone has watched how they play defense with a team that is not overly talented he'd be perfect for a team of young players I know wed eat 20 mm of fischer but its good money spent. Let's face it Fischer is not the guy you feel comfortable going 4ward with unless we had our own draft pix


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1/19/2015  3:39 PM
9 coaches in 16 years is a brilliant thing!!!!!

Lets hire Tony Bennett so we can fire him!!!!!

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1/19/2015  3:51 PM
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1/19/2015  4:15 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If anyone has watched how they play defense with a team that is not overly talented he'd be perfect for a team of young players I know wed eat 20 mm of fischer but its good money spent. Let's face it Fischer is not the guy you feel comfortable going 4ward with unless we had our own draft pix


A few years ago Bennet would have hit the right notes with the Knicks.

Fisher would have loved to have add his voice to those assistants he now listens to.

I'm not sure he has the range to handle everything he would have to perform with this team.

You also have to worry about his stamina at this point.

EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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1/19/2015  8:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/19/2015  8:19 PM
mreinman wrote:
RonRon wrote:Pretty sure Phil Jackson will not settle for anything but the Triangle

While I do not agree with that, if that is the path he chooses, Shaw should be brought in as Fisher is not ready
Now can we collect the talent to develop the system and execute it

Will we try to go all in and try to compete with CA, go young, or try to develop younger talent?
Unless major ALL STAR's are coming like Lebron, maybe sending CA to the highest bidder in the West is the best for him and us at this point
His value will only go lower if we are unable to produce a winning team around him as we saw Tyson Chandler's value drop with us...

If we do get the #1 overall pick we should be looking to pair talents with the pick and Thanasis as our core
Surrounding them with players that FIT their skills and will help speed their development
We need to develop chemistry and sign cheap talent rather than overpay for players

I would target players with MAX contracts like Kawaii, Draymond Green, Jimmy Butler, etc, with MAX contracts with or without CA
We need players that are YOUNG, versatile, hard working, high IQ, very good on DEFENSE on 1v1 and TEAM DEF, and will improve EVERYONE one the court collectivelly as a whole

Even if we do now get all these players, it doesn't matter, we limit our contenders from improving and we can see what is out there, put pressure on other teams and contracts, and look to sign the right combination of talents together
We simply cannot afford to let these teams continue to get better as we are very limited in terms of picks, cap space, and young talent

CA is a talent that we simply cannot afford with our inabilities to surround him with enough talent to compete before he will decline
Moving on will be best for him and our franchise, moving forward
We need talents that are under 26 for our future while establishing a WINNING CULTURE
Moving him to a team that has the ability to contend, defend, and could use his ability to spread the floor/score and has a SET system in place that can utlize him like he was on TEAM USA is his best bet if he wants to ever win

We are a joke in this league and we have parlayed too much of our future and limited our ability to improve since trading for CA
While every other team has 15+ picks and more in the next couple of years we have 1 pick every other year
So FA, D League, and Foreign Talent is where we must look at in terms of improving our roster, on top of our whatever we can get our of our cap space/roster

Good post.

You don't want wes mathews? Can't understand how anyone could not be high on him. I hope the market agrees with you and we can get him for cheaper.


I like Mathewws but I do not know what the plan is at this point, not knowing what the vision actually is...
Would prefer younger players, maybe a poison pill like a player like Draymond Green?
Doubt that would be enough but we are going to have to be creative in utilizing our cap space and building a roster

What would be the difference of Matthews in terms of salary for players likes like


Wes Mathewws


Gereld Green
Danny Green
Jeff Green

We need to watch every dollar we spend when it comes to players of this caliber for all of our needs and wants

For instance, cheaper players or/and YOUNGER then Wes Mathews, including some of the above
If I have to spend over 10m, I would rather pay a bit more and throw a MAX at Kawai, Butler, even though it is unlikely we would land either....

KJ McDaniels could be much cheaper though we would still have to develop him
Randy Foye
Wesley Johnson

Some of Utah's G/F's, including the high jumper in

Millsap's brother and some of the D League callups like Elliot Williams etc...

Jeremy Evans
DeMarre Carroll *now in Atlanta and is a UFA*

Holiday

Matt Barnes
Anthony Tolliver


All players I think would be usefull in the system and be paired with Thanasis together
So if we will pay a BIG amount of money, I would rather use it on YOUNGER players that could do a bit of EVERYTHING like Kawaii, Butler, Green *doubt a poison pill would be enough but should consider it*

GS will be one of the highest paying teams by next summer, with many players making 10m + and a Harrison Barnes looking for a payday soon as well
With a couple of players making 5m

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1/19/2015  9:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/19/2015  9:04 PM
Since we already gave a guarantied contract to Fisher, it is behooved the Knicks to at least keep him around til next season. If by mid season we still look terrible, we should reassign Fisherto a front office position and have him earn the contract and promote Rambis to HC. Bring in a defensive minded assistant who coached at a high level either in college or the pros to be Rambis'top assistant and this team will be a success. FISHER's flaws are: slow cadences during game and timeouts, and terrible at making adjustments.
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/19/2015  10:01 PM
the pack line is a cousin of boehim's 2-3 defense... it basically forces the other team to be good 3 pt shooters and it has success at the college level since not every team is disciplined and has the shooters to break it...

it won't work in the nba since so many guys have lightning quick releases.. as soon as the pass comes around the ball is in the hoop...

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1/19/2015  10:11 PM
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