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BRIGGS
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1/18/2015  1:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/18/2015  1:34 PM
Let's take out melo for a second. Both of these teams already have star like young players in place to help them compete at a good level. We are so far behind everyone that we cannot afford NOT to uncover any rock or miss on any transaction. Why we are getting involved with Lou a at this point is insane. I give credit that we are trying with Langston Galloway but really that is it. Check early was deactivated las game. We need aggression and people who are on 24/7
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1/18/2015  1:37 PM
I agree that it is a bad look for the organization to just be showing interest in guys at the dleague showcase. When you are where the Knicks are you need to have your eye any place where you might be able to uncover talent. Reports from Philly that I have read are that they will bring up Bryce Cotton as soon as they are able to move Wroten. The Knicks should have had that approach with the Smith/Shump trade. Also, how do you not sign Wolters? Solid limited vets that won't be on the team next year are not the guys you extend roster spots to if you are rebuilding.
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1/18/2015  1:46 PM
we're worse than an expansion team. We have what, 2 draft picks in the next 3 years? Where other teams have 6+?

Who exactly are we signing this off season? Are we going to use all our cap money just for the sake of trying to get better? If we don't sign the guys we want, are we going to end up signing guys just to fill spots?

Are we going to get bent over by FA this off season? Do we give out long contracts with player options & no trade clauses?

How long before Dolan freaks out? How long before Phil is pressured to do something to 'fix things' before he feels ready to?

Knicks1969
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1/18/2015  2:10 PM
We have a much better chance at a faster winning program then all of the stated teams. Other then my apprehension towards Fisher the coach, I trust that Phil will put together a decent team around the established Carmelo. I foresee Phil acquiring nothing but young talents the next two years
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/18/2015  4:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/18/2015  8:47 PM
Completely agree with the sentiment here. We're not nearly as aggressive as we should be given our situation. It's sad.

Looks like we whiffed on JaMychal Green, not much we can do about that now, and the Kings picked up Quincy Miller (talented although I don't quite see the fit next to Melo moving forward--maybe I'm wrong and we should've taken a look) but there are still plenty of good prospects in the DL we should be willing to take a closer look at -- guys that should fit together with the type of team we need to assemble:

Khem Birch - 6'9"+, huge wingspan, leaper, very adept shot-blocker, rebounder/dirty-work player. How'd this guy look next to the scoring big we hope to add (Jahlil Okafor in the draft, Enes Kanter maybe in FA maybe, etc.)? Pretty good if you ask me. Would it hurt to bring him in now to take a closer look? Come on, Phil. Wake up!

Bryce Cotton - sorry but he's a better PG prospect than Langston Galloway. Unbelievable to me that they don't feel that way. Dude just dropped 40 in the DL Showcase...Yeah, I'll give them credit for giving Galloway a chance to a certain extent but when there's a better PG available who's out there for the taking, you adjustment accordingly. Why the 2nd 10-day contract for Galloway when Cotton's still out there?? Yeah, I heard Philly wants him but so what -- swoop in and take this kid. We should want him! See the value - I see a very good backup PG here, someone to pair with the starting caliber PG I hope they look to add (Mudiay in the draft? Brandon Knight in FA?). This guy's clearly better than Galloway, better than a lot of NBA PGs around 6': DJ Augustin, our own Shane Larkin.. He reminds me of Patty Mills with a tad more PG skills... Think about how a guy like Mudiay or Brandon Knight/Goran Dragic backed up by Bryce Cotton would look compared to the dreck we've had to deal with at PG for years now...What the F are we doing? We're asleep at F'ing wheel man, I swear..

Orlando Johnson - 6'5" 220 lb SG. A better overall player than THJ in every area. Definitely worth a look. Someone explain to me how we trade away 2 big rotation 2Gs the other day (6'5" & 6'6") and then don't bother to bring in at least 1 comparable replacement...Give Utah credit -- Patrick Christopher goes down (a nice signing to beginning with) and they immediately bring in Elliot Williams and Elijah Millsap, 2 viable replacements. Whether you like those 2 players or not, you can see where the Jazz are going--they're at least attempting to fill a void with equal or superior talent. What are we doing?

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1/18/2015  5:01 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:We have a much better chance at a faster winning program then all of the stated teams. Other then my apprehension towards Fisher the coach, I trust that Phil will put together a decent team around the established Carmelo. I foresee Phil acquiring nothing but young talents the next two years

yeah ... he has really shown that with Calderon and Stiff.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/19/2015  1:56 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/19/2015  1:57 AM
mreinman wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:We have a much better chance at a faster winning program then all of the stated teams. Other then my apprehension towards Fisher the coach, I trust that Phil will put together a decent team around the established Carmelo. I foresee Phil acquiring nothing but young talents the next two years

yeah ... he has really shown that with Calderon and Stiff.

Mistake are bound to happen when you don't have too many assets. I hate those two guys myself and you know that. I will never hate the guy (Phill) for trying. I won't be too happy if they are still around by next year.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/19/2015  7:00 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/19/2015  7:01 AM
The average last placed NBA team finishes in the mid .300s the next season.
We don't have our 2nd round pick this year, which would be 31 and is basically a late 1st round pick. We don't have a our 1st round pick next year. And if we meet the trend and finish in the mid .300s next year, our 2nd round pick which we don't have would be like another late 1st round pick. So we're basically starting over with 3 missing first round picks
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