This year, he looks constipated. Always perplexed and confused, thinking before shooting. Maybe reps will make the triangle automatic for him and he can get back to reacting instead of thinking. Or, he just isn't the right player for this system. The kid can obviously play, but can he play in this system? My opinion is no. I like the kid, but I don't think he will excel here.

Thoughts?

dk7th wrote:pedigree or not his trajectory is not particularly promising.

He'll be gone next yr for a 2020 2nd round pick

Phil FTW!!!!

Knicks1969 wrote:Here are my thoughts:

The kid can play, but the change in coaching has retarded his development a bit. Fisher has not truly allowed him to learn from his mistakes. In fact, The entire coaching staff is not doing a good job coaching during the game. When you pull a guy for a mistake, you have to immediately approach him to let him know what he did wrong. He is being allowed to take way too many threes when the stat sheets clearly demonstrate that is not his strength. Coach the kid to attack the basket, as well as, help him to incorporate a one dribble jumper in his arsenal. His mechanics shooting the ball can be corrected to help improve his accuracy on offense.

Defensively, the coaching staff needs to change their entire approach. The game has changed from a post up game to a more perimeter oriented one; which explains why we have so many bigs who are considered stretch 4s or 5s. For the coaching staff to continue to preach packing the paint instead of effectively guarding the perimeter, is beyond baffling in my opinion. Teach perimeter players to guard their position and stop looking to help the bigs. Last I checked, 2 points are one point less then 3 points. Instruct Tim to not allow breathing room on defense and to always keep his eyes on the guy he is guarding. Once he masters that, he will become a hell of a defender. He is long and agile enough to be a very good defender.

The coaches need to help him to get there. Watch him on defense, he is always looking to help the interior while losing sight of his men. Poor fundamentals that can be fixed, but will take a lot of repetition.

You and all of your Championships have figured out how to get it done. I'm sure Phil has no idea how to develop talent and neither do any of his former assistants, but you've got it on lock.

knicks1248 wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:Here are my thoughts:

The kid can play, but the change in coaching has retarded his development a bit. Fisher has not truly allowed him to learn from his mistakes. In fact, The entire coaching staff is not doing a good job coaching during the game. When you pull a guy for a mistake, you have to immediately approach him to let him know what he did wrong. He is being allowed to take way too many threes when the stat sheets clearly demonstrate that is not his strength. Coach the kid to attack the basket, as well as, help him to incorporate a one dribble jumper in his arsenal. His mechanics shooting the ball can be corrected to help improve his accuracy on offense.

Defensively, the coaching staff needs to change their entire approach. The game has changed from a post up game to a more perimeter oriented one; which explains why we have so many bigs who are considered stretch 4s or 5s. For the coaching staff to continue to preach packing the paint instead of effectively guarding the perimeter, is beyond baffling in my opinion. Teach perimeter players to guard their position and stop looking to help the bigs. Last I checked, 2 points are one point less then 3 points. Instruct Tim to not allow breathing room on defense and to always keep his eyes on the guy he is guarding. Once he masters that, he will become a hell of a defender. He is long and agile enough to be a very good defender.

The coaches need to help him to get there. Watch him on defense, he is always looking to help the interior while losing sight of his men. Poor fundamentals that can be fixed, but will take a lot of repetition.

Thats what he is being told to do, that's why is baffling

Precisely why I called for the coaching staff to change their strategy. Not defending the perimeter is an invitation to the opposing team to kill you every night. I don't know who thought fisher how to coach, that mode of thinking is archaic. Teams no longer play half court offense, it has been so since big Shaquille retired from the game.

The game has gone through many changes since Phil was coach. Specifically, these days, it is PG dominated. If you don't have a strong PG that can play at both ends of the court, you will be beaten every freaking night. That is why I am baffled by Phil's desire to forever stick with the triangle. I think Phill needs to add other layers to the TRIANGLE to modernize it to fit today's style of play.

WaltLongmire wrote:I think he is being asked to do much more this year, on defense AND offense.

I think his D has improved somewhat, but is still not up to par.

Needs to move better without the ball, especially to the basket, where he seems to be a better finisher than he was last year.

Hopefully he is intelligent enough to adapt his game to the new demands made on him by Fisher.

As to his perimeter D, I think you have to know the enemy when you are deciding on whether or not you "pack the paint" on D. You can't let some guys take the open 3- its an invitation to disaster- but I think there are guys who you want taking them. Just have to differentiate efficiently.

By the way- feeling confident that your interior D can handle things in the post would be a nice. I assume that this is what causes us to have someone like Hardaway sagging off his man on the defensive end.

I agree......this coaching staff simply don't have a clue. I find it hard to believe how inept Fisher is when it comes to coaching; specifically, on the defensive side of the ball. The problem is, it is not just TIM that plays that way, it is all of our guards and forwards.

MS wrote:It has nothing to do with coaching.

Hardaway is overplaying on the perimeter. He falls for shot fakes to players that shoot low percentages, over plays to far out and has a habit of committing horrible fouls.

Offensively he doesn't rebound or pass and is way below overage in both areas. His shot selection is terrible. Rarely does he ever take the smart shot. Everything is off balance and a long three pointer. At this point he is barely a rotation player.

It's not coaching, he has gotten the minutes, but isn't playing aggressively taking it to the basket. Hopefully since the team is made up of journeymen and non nba players he uses this opportunity to work on his game and take it to the rack and stop shooting three pointers.

I agree with you about THJ taking too many three point shots. But once again, this why you have coaches on the sideline. Their main job is to help correct those bad habits. If a dude is not in the correct spot, coaches should be reminding them of what not to do. If he is taking too many off balance shots or low percentage shots, the coaches are to get on them.