I see a huge ego with a huge salary. I see rings as a coach but no evidence this guy is a GM worth a damn.

He was a Knick way before my time so I don't have any affinity for him there. Hall of Fame Coach, no argument.

But he's a Starphuch. With all of the crappy rosters/coach mismatches throughout the years, he's managed to put out the absolute worst performing Knicks team I've ever seen.

You guys who think that Phil has some magic touch: what are you seeing? I mean is this guy even really putting any work in? Or are you just buying into another brand name?

He's respected, sure... as a coach. Just like Derek Fisher was respected as a veteran journeyman player. But there is obviously a gap between where both were in the past and where they are now.

If they are all about "the right way" -- is the right way starting at the top positions in the biggest city with one of the most problematic franchises? Or is the right way doing your time coaching the Patroons or GMing a D-League squad until you are ready to graduate to the next level?

DrAlphaeus wrote:Is he in touch with today's game and today's players?

He's respected, sure... as a coach. Just like Derek Fisher was respected as a veteran journeyman player. But there is obviously a gap between where both were in the past and where they are now.

If they are all about "the right way" -- is the right way starting at the top positions in the biggest city with one of the most problematic franchises? Or is the right way doing your time coaching the Patroons or GMing a D-League squad until you are ready to graduate to the next level?

He had one big move to make, trading Tyson. Personally I wouldn't grade that trade until we see what he gets for Sam, how Early, Thanasis and Larkin Turn out as prospects, and can Jose run the triangle and be a leader on the Knicks. Jose isn't doing that well so far.

I don't know what to think of the Fisher hiring. He has impressed me with his communication skills and his summer league coaching. He has struggled in the regular season but I am hoping he is figuring things out with a really bad roster.

One thing that is concerning. I think Phil saw JAson and Quincey as untapped talents. They have shown that they are the 8th or 9th men on most teams if they crack the rotation.

Phil cashed in on his reputation first, then song and danced his way into town while improvising a "plan".

Phil's plan is a fantasy. It's Phil's fantasy that everything he did once will work again. It's sad seeing his delusion play out, but he is clearly over the hill and not adapting to the times.

Dolan sucker punches the fans continually.

Phil suckered P.T. Dolan.

Now he's got $60M and probably a little leftover hubris that says his chit don't stink and 11 rings will conquer Mordor.

Bonn1997 wrote:I'm worried that while other teams are using the best advanced metrics, Phil is just using his intuition and eyeball test because that's what everyone did many years ago when he was winning rings.

+100

gunsnewing wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I'm worried that while other teams are using the best advanced metrics, Phil is just using his intuition and eyeball test because that's what everyone did many years ago when he was winning rings.

That is certainly a concern. You hope Mills is helping him in that area but who knows. That really not something to get excited about.

All we have to go on is the resigning of Melo which analytically is on par with paying a Rudy Gay & Josh Smith $124mil.

Then they brought in Calderon who has good advanc me stats offensively but alwful advance stats defensively.

So yea they are probably using the ol handy eyeball test only which means we are screwed

BRIGGS wrote:This flush out is all Dolan. This is 15 years of his "input". Dolan hired Phil Jackson who has zero GM experience for more money than the 3 best GMs make combined. Did anyone read that Kyle Lowry piece just put out? Lowry was traded to the Knicks---whether it was Dolan or Phil behind the scenes--they negated a trade for the best player we have any chance at getting unless we get pick 1 for the next 18 months at a minimum. It could get WORSE here it could get real bad. We DO NOT have a pick next year and there is a possibility of the "bust" scenario where we don't do well in the draft and get somewhat shut out in FA. I'm sure there will be a panic mode where we do offer a player a max just to placate the fans--to get something new in here and trade the pick for any exsisting proven player(even if its eats massive cap) If we do the franchise is likely done for 5-7 years. Because the Knicks and their ownership have not put a standard of "restrictive picks" we left ourselves open to disaster--this year its all PURE luck (my God how is this pick not somehow not swapped to a team who has the rights to flip) a device the Knicks concocted to circumvent the two year draft rule(I think it was isiah Thomas) The Knicks are basically a crooked scam organization with Dolan running things the only way he will do it by his last words. So the consumer is fcked by this the fan is fkced by this--and that is that.

BRIGGS wrote:This flush out is all Dolan. This is 15 years of his "input". Dolan hired Phil Jackson who has zero GM experience for more money than the 3 best GMs make combined. Did anyone read that Kyle Lowry piece just put out? Lowry was traded to the Knicks---whether it was Dolan or Phil behind the scenes--they negated a trade for the best player we have any chance at getting unless we get pick 1 for the next 18 months at a minimum. It could get WORSE here it could get real bad. We DO NOT have a pick next year and there is a possibility of the "bust" scenario where we don't do well in the draft and get somewhat shut out in FA. I'm sure there will be a panic mode where we do offer a player a max just to placate the fans--to get something new in here and trade the pick for any exsisting proven player(even if its eats massive cap) If we do the franchise is likely done for 5-7 years. Because the Knicks and their ownership have not put a standard of "restrictive picks" we left ourselves open to disaster--this year its all PURE luck (my God how is this pick not somehow not swapped to a team who has the rights to flip) a device the Knicks concocted to circumvent the two year draft rule(I think it was isiah Thomas) The Knicks are basically a crooked scam organization with Dolan running things the only way he will do it by his last words. So the consumer is fcked by this the fan is fkced by this--and that is that.

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