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Phil can you please trade Jose caldron please!!!
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fitzfarm
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12/25/2014  2:45 PM
Pretty please!!and hopefully for a expiring preferably j Lin !!!
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12/25/2014  2:46 PM
Agree
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/25/2014  2:47 PM
I dont think he is able To get traded. Only the knicks would acquire him and bargnani
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12/25/2014  3:02 PM
I hate the lack of movements from Phil thus far. Even Releasing a player like Detroit just did would reverberate throughout the league.
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/25/2014  3:03 PM
Idiots are pretty common in NBA executive circles... So it is always a hope...
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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12/25/2014  3:25 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/25/2014  3:28 PM
Bringing back Lin would likely spark some fire between JR Smith and CA, while welcomed by STAT and Iman
That fire could help spark us out of the TOP 5 pick as I think he could help this team a lot with his ability to penetrate/push tempo and translate easy baskets
It would also give CA a reason to say trade me, possibly even losing more leverage to a GM

Reuninting former team mates calling their contracts RIDICULOUS, while technnically they were still team mates, would be arkward

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12/25/2014  3:40 PM
RonRon wrote:Bringing back Lin would likely spark some fire between JR Smith and CA, while welcomed by STAT and Iman
That fire could help spark us out of the TOP 5 pick as I think he could help this team a lot with his ability to penetrate/push tempo and translate easy baskets
It would also give CA a reason to say trade me, possibly even losing more leverage to a GM

Reuninting former team mates calling their contracts RIDICULOUS, while technnically they were still team mates, would be arkward

If melo would want to be traded because someone makes the team better takes the spotlight from him shows just how much he needs to go because that is a definition of a cancer

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12/25/2014  3:42 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:I hate the lack of movements from Phil thus far. Even Releasing a player like Detroit just did would reverberate throughout the league.

Who do you want Phil to release? We don't know if Phil hasn't been trying to make a deal of some kind or if he will eventually make a move by the trade deadline. Perhaps he's just waiting for the right time to do something. Right now he's got JR, Shump and Bargs still out and maybe he's just waiting for them to get back on the floor and prove that they can play before making any deals.

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12/25/2014  3:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/25/2014  3:47 PM
nixluva wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:I hate the lack of movements from Phil thus far. Even Releasing a player like Detroit just did would reverberate throughout the league.

Who do you want Phil to release? We don't know if Phil hasn't been trying to make a deal of some kind or if he will eventually make a move by the trade deadline. Perhaps he's just waiting for the right time to do something. Right now he's got JR, Shump and Bargs still out and maybe he's just waiting for them to get back on the floor and prove that they can play before making any deals.

bargs is worthless, nobody will take jr unless he refuses to pick up his option.shumpert may have some interest but he is injured as well
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12/25/2014  3:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/25/2014  3:47 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
RonRon wrote:Bringing back Lin would likely spark some fire between JR Smith and CA, while welcomed by STAT and Iman
That fire could help spark us out of the TOP 5 pick as I think he could help this team a lot with his ability to penetrate/push tempo and translate easy baskets
It would also give CA a reason to say trade me, possibly even losing more leverage to a GM

Reuninting former team mates calling their contracts RIDICULOUS, while technnically they were still team mates, would be arkward

If melo would want to be traded because someone makes the team better takes the spotlight from him shows just how much he needs to go because that is a definition of a cancer


No one wants to accept being part of a losing team, I don't think he though it wasn't going to be anything like this AGAIN
He surely didn't expect to win but not this bad...

It just gives him a reason to say he wants out thats all

Honestly, I wouldn't blame him one bit...

He would just make it in time to miss winter in NYC too

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12/25/2014  4:01 PM
We have the stretch provision--after the season--we can stretch him and gain 4.4 and 4.7mm in 2015 and 2106.
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12/25/2014  4:06 PM
BRIGGS wrote:We have the stretch provision--after the season--we can stretch him and gain 4.4 and 4.7mm in 2015 and 2106.

Can we use the Stench Provision?

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12/25/2014  4:15 PM
BRIGGS wrote:We have the stretch provision--after the season--we can stretch him and gain 4.4 and 4.7mm in 2015 and 2106.

NO NO NO Briggs. The Stretch Provision doesn't apply to the Knicks. There is NOTHING we can do and we have no options whatsoever. Just have to stick with this roster until these players actually die and then we can consider improving the roster. We can't trade anyone either. Just accept that we're stuck like this forever. Heck even if we get the overall number one pick we will be forbidden to draft Okafor with that pick or any other player in the top 10. In fact our cap space is meaningless don't you know. There's no hope and all is lost. Just accept it.

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12/25/2014  4:36 PM
nixluva wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:We have the stretch provision--after the season--we can stretch him and gain 4.4 and 4.7mm in 2015 and 2106.

NO NO NO Briggs. The Stretch Provision doesn't apply to the Knicks. There is NOTHING we can do and we have no options whatsoever. Just have to stick with this roster until these players actually die and then we can consider improving the roster. We can't trade anyone either. Just accept that we're stuck like this forever. Heck even if we get the overall number one pick we will be forbidden to draft Okafor with that pick or any other player in the top 10. In fact our cap space is meaningless don't you know. There's no hope and all is lost. Just accept it.

Pull yourself together. There's always hope. It is just you constantly put lipstick on a pig.

Trade Melo and rebuild. That leads to hope, not this band-aid bullcrap you keep peddling.

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
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12/25/2014  4:37 PM
nixluva wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:We have the stretch provision--after the season--we can stretch him and gain 4.4 and 4.7mm in 2015 and 2106.

NO NO NO Briggs. The Stretch Provision doesn't apply to the Knicks. There is NOTHING we can do and we have no options whatsoever. Just have to stick with this roster until these players actually die and then we can consider improving the roster. We can't trade anyone either. Just accept that we're stuck like this forever. Heck even if we get the overall number one pick we will be forbidden to draft Okafor with that pick or any other player in the top 10. In fact our cap space is meaningless don't you know. There's no hope and all is lost. Just accept it.

What are you talking about.
The stretch provision allows a team to waive a player and stretch it X 2 the remaining years + 1. That measn if we waive him at the end of th eyear--his contract owed--15mm is stretched over 5 years or 3mm per.

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12/25/2014  6:06 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:We have the stretch provision--after the season--we can stretch him and gain 4.4 and 4.7mm in 2015 and 2106.

NO NO NO Briggs. The Stretch Provision doesn't apply to the Knicks. There is NOTHING we can do and we have no options whatsoever. Just have to stick with this roster until these players actually die and then we can consider improving the roster. We can't trade anyone either. Just accept that we're stuck like this forever. Heck even if we get the overall number one pick we will be forbidden to draft Okafor with that pick or any other player in the top 10. In fact our cap space is meaningless don't you know. There's no hope and all is lost. Just accept it.

What are you talking about.
The stretch provision allows a team to waive a player and stretch it X 2 the remaining years + 1. That measn if we waive him at the end of th eyear--his contract owed--15mm is stretched over 5 years or 3mm per.


BRIGGS... I was joking. I agree with you but was being sarcastic since others make it sound like we have no options and that you are off base by even suggesting that the Knicks could clear more space if they wanted to.
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12/25/2014  7:29 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:We have the stretch provision--after the season--we can stretch him and gain 4.4 and 4.7mm in 2015 and 2106.

NO NO NO Briggs. The Stretch Provision doesn't apply to the Knicks. There is NOTHING we can do and we have no options whatsoever. Just have to stick with this roster until these players actually die and then we can consider improving the roster. We can't trade anyone either. Just accept that we're stuck like this forever. Heck even if we get the overall number one pick we will be forbidden to draft Okafor with that pick or any other player in the top 10. In fact our cap space is meaningless don't you know. There's no hope and all is lost. Just accept it.

What are you talking about.
The stretch provision allows a team to waive a player and stretch it X 2 the remaining years + 1. That measn if we waive him at the end of th eyear--his contract owed--15mm is stretched over 5 years or 3mm per.

this is funny

I feel abbot and costello ish

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/25/2014  8:18 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:I hate the lack of movements from Phil thus far. Even Releasing a player like Detroit just did would reverberate throughout the league.

Statements like this comfort me as a form of confirmation that by doing nothing, we move forward.

That making ANY MOVE is some how better. Change unto itself is not improvement if the right acquisition or release is not achieved.

Letting Jose go now does nothing.
Shump is injured. JR is injured.
The notion that ANYONE IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE GOT is an emotional statement, not logic.

The lack of Movement is better than panic. At this point, its about a better draft position.
Anything that can't be a future asset should not be considered.

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12/25/2014  8:40 PM
Nalod wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:I hate the lack of movements from Phil thus far. Even Releasing a player like Detroit just did would reverberate throughout the league.

Statements like this comfort me as a form of confirmation that by doing nothing, we move forward.

That making ANY MOVE is some how better. Change unto itself is not improvement if the right acquisition or release is not achieved.

Letting Jose go now does nothing.
Shump is injured. JR is injured.
The notion that ANYONE IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE GOT is an emotional statement, not logic.

The lack of Movement is better than panic. At this point, its about a better draft position.
Anything that can't be a future asset should not be considered.

Fans wont instant gratification. Nothing wrong with it.
They are addicted. Who in right mind do what addicts want?
The wins and loses are irrelevant to the future of Knicks organization.
Moreover more loses are better.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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12/26/2014  3:15 AM
Nalod wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:I hate the lack of movements from Phil thus far. Even Releasing a player like Detroit just did would reverberate throughout the league.

Statements like this comfort me as a form of confirmation that by doing nothing, we move forward.

That making ANY MOVE is some how better. Change unto itself is not improvement if the right acquisition or release is not achieved.

Letting Jose go now does nothing.
Shump is injured. JR is injured.
The notion that ANYONE IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE GOT is an emotional statement, not logic.

The lack of Movement is better than panic. At this point, its about a better draft position.
Anything that can't be a future asset should not be considered.

Nalod has embraced the zen

Completely agree- people wanting to cut players just for the sake of it, when there's still a chance they could be traded. Like phil said- patience.

Phil can you please trade Jose caldron please!!!

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