If we can throw Bargnani, Melo, Amare, Calderón and thjr out there we can at least compete offensively for stretches. It's a triangle friendly 5 that could get some chemistry going. Teams have to guard that group.

No seriously stop laughing

EnySpree wrote:All jokes aside, the Knicks need the extra scorer. Bargnani has done it throughout his career. The Knicks don't currently have many players that are proven double digit scorers in this league.

If we can throw Bargnani, Melo, Amare, Calderón and thjr out there we can at least compete offensively for stretches. It's a triangle friendly 5 that could get some chemistry going. Teams have to guard that group.

No seriously stop laughing

StarksEwing1 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:All jokes aside, the Knicks need the extra scorer. Bargnani has done it throughout his career. The Knicks don't currently have many players that are proven double digit scorers in this league.

If we can throw Bargnani, Melo, Amare, Calderón and thjr out there we can at least compete offensively for stretches. It's a triangle friendly 5 that could get some chemistry going. Teams have to guard that group.

No seriously stop laughing

at this point its too late. Id rather just play the kids and get a lottery pick

I had a feeling this might happen. If Melo refuses to shut it down and Bargs gets his game back this could mess up the Knicks draft position. The only way to secure it is a trade by Phil. It's gonna be like past drafts all over again. Steph Curry missed by one meaningless win. It's hard to think this team won't win a few more games with more players coming back. It's not like they've been getting blown out every game. They've been a lot closer to winning games than the record suggests.

For those who want a high pick Bargs return is bad news. For those who would like to see that the team gets some wins and maybe a playoff spot, it's more likely if Bargs gets back in action. For the future of the team it's hard to say which is going to be more advantageous. If Bargs plays well it could lead to a trade which could bring an asset. If the team gets into the playoffs it could help in convincing FA's to come here. Conversely if things continue to be bad that obviously means a better chance in the draft. In a way the only bad outcome is the team plays better but just misses the playoffs which would be a DISASTER!!!

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:All jokes aside, the Knicks need the extra scorer. Bargnani has done it throughout his career. The Knicks don't currently have many players that are proven double digit scorers in this league.

If we can throw Bargnani, Melo, Amare, Calderón and thjr out there we can at least compete offensively for stretches. It's a triangle friendly 5 that could get some chemistry going. Teams have to guard that group.

No seriously stop laughing

at this point its too late. Id rather just play the kids and get a lottery pick

I had a feeling this might happen. If Melo refuses to shut it down and Bargs gets his game back this could mess up the Knicks draft position. The only way to secure it is a trade by Phil. It's gonna be like past drafts all over again. Steph Curry missed by one meaningless win. It's hard to think this team won't win a few more games with more players coming back. It's not like they've been getting blown out every game. They've been a lot closer to winning games than the record suggests.

For those who want a high pick Bargs return is bad news. For those who would like to see that the team gets some wins and maybe a playoff spot, it's more likely if Bargs gets back in action. For the future of the team it's hard to say which is going to be more advantageous. If Bargs plays well it could lead to a trade which could bring an asset. If the team gets into the playoffs it could help in convincing FA's to come here. Conversely if things continue to be bad that obviously means a better chance in the draft. In a way the only bad outcome is the team plays better but just misses the playoffs which would be a DISASTER!!!

Pretty much. Once a game starts I always root for the Knicks to win. I can't get behind the tank in the heat of the moment, especially in December. It will be interesting to see how things play out.

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:All jokes aside, the Knicks need the extra scorer. Bargnani has done it throughout his career. The Knicks don't currently have many players that are proven double digit scorers in this league.

If we can throw Bargnani, Melo, Amare, Calderón and thjr out there we can at least compete offensively for stretches. It's a triangle friendly 5 that could get some chemistry going. Teams have to guard that group.

No seriously stop laughing

at this point its too late. Id rather just play the kids and get a lottery pick

I had a feeling this might happen. If Melo refuses to shut it down and Bargs gets his game back this could mess up the Knicks draft position. The only way to secure it is a trade by Phil. It's gonna be like past drafts all over again. Steph Curry missed by one meaningless win. It's hard to think this team won't win a few more games with more players coming back. It's not like they've been getting blown out every game. They've been a lot closer to winning games than the record suggests.

For those who want a high pick Bargs return is bad news. For those who would like to see that the team gets some wins and maybe a playoff spot, it's more likely if Bargs gets back in action. For the future of the team it's hard to say which is going to be more advantageous. If Bargs plays well it could lead to a trade which could bring an asset. If the team gets into the playoffs it could help in convincing FA's to come here. Conversely if things continue to be bad that obviously means a better chance in the draft. In a way the only bad outcome is the team plays better but just misses the playoffs which would be a DISASTER!!!

Pretty much. Once a game starts I always root for the Knicks to win. I can't get behind the tank in the heat of the moment, especially in December. It will be interesting to see how things play out.

I actually don't think Phil trusts the draft to save him. It's never been how he's won. I think he wants to go hard after Young Vets who have proven what they are and still have upside. I don't think he had any vision of doing what Philly is doing. Phil wants to make a big splash in 2015 either by trade or Free Agency. Any pick is going to take some time to reap rewards and I don't think he wants to wait that long to see results. Free Agents and Trades can produce a faster change. Plus we don't have picks in the following draft like other teams who used successive drafts to build a young core.

TPercy wrote:are you guys joking? this guy i a bum.

Don't fall for the cliche crap the media and Bargs haters tell you. The potential for Bargs to play well is always there. Did you know that he shot 48% from 2pt range last year? It wasn't even a particularly good year for him and he still was one of our better scorers in the midrange. He's a better player than Jason Smith and if you think that won't make a difference then you're not paying attention. Bargs isn't great but he'd be an improvement on this roster. It may take some time for him to get in mid season form, but he would be an improvement.

nixluva wrote:

TPercy wrote:are you guys joking? this guy i a bum.

Don't fall for the cliche crap the media and Bargs haters tell you. The potential for Bargs to play well is always there. Did you know that he shot 48% from 2pt range last year? It wasn't even a particularly good year for him and he still was one of our better scorers in the midrange. He's a better player than Jason Smith and if you think that won't make a difference then you're not paying attention. Bargs isn't great but he'd be an improvement on this roster. It may take some time for him to get in mid season form, but he would be an improvement.