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12/7/2014  10:24 AM
Example trading for Gerald Wallace and Boston's 2015 first(they have 2) and 2nd rounder. Trade for Javale McGee and either Denver's first rounder if they are willing to give it up or 2015 2nd rounder and 2016 first rounder.

These type of deals. Then go after free agents in 2016. If we just spend cap space this summer then there aren't many more avenues to improve the team after that. And would be putting a lot of pressure on our free agents to be able to win. If we use the cap space to add some more first round draft picks then we would have cap space and draft picks to rebuild our talent base in 2016.

Lakers had a underrated off season and are a year ahead of us in rebuilding. They have Randle, 2 2015 draft picks and cap space the throw at Rondo or Reggie Jackson etc. To go with Kobe's last yr.

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12/7/2014  10:44 AM
There's also Detroit with Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings.
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12/7/2014  12:57 PM
VCoug wrote:There's also Detroit with Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings.

Smith contract runs to long. And Jennings isn't a throw away player u give up a pick to dump. The salary cap around the NBA is pretty good. Not to many teams with unreadable contracts. Smith may be the last one at the moment.

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12/7/2014  1:04 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Example trading for Gerald Wallace and Boston's 2015 first(they have 2) and 2nd rounder. Trade for Javale McGee and either Denver's first rounder if they are willing to give it up or 2015 2nd rounder and 2016 first rounder.

These type of deals. Then go after free agents in 2016. If we just spend cap space this summer then there aren't many more avenues to improve the team after that. And would be putting a lot of pressure on our free agents to be able to win. If we use the cap space to add some more first round draft picks then we would have cap space and draft picks to rebuild our talent base in 2016.

Lakers had a underrated off season and are a year ahead of us in rebuilding. They have Randle, 2 2015 draft picks and cap space the throw at Rondo or Reggie Jackson etc. To go with Kobe's last yr.


Hopefully something like this can happen. Some posters have made really good points about draft picks being a lot more valuable then cap space.
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12/7/2014  1:08 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Example trading for Gerald Wallace and Boston's 2015 first(they have 2) and 2nd rounder. Trade for Javale McGee and either Denver's first rounder if they are willing to give it up or 2015 2nd rounder and 2016 first rounder.

These type of deals. Then go after free agents in 2016. If we just spend cap space this summer then there aren't many more avenues to improve the team after that. And would be putting a lot of pressure on our free agents to be able to win. If we use the cap space to add some more first round draft picks then we would have cap space and draft picks to rebuild our talent base in 2016.

Lakers had a underrated off season and are a year ahead of us in rebuilding. They have Randle, 2 2015 draft picks and cap space the throw at Rondo or Reggie Jackson etc. To go with Kobe's last yr.

Good post.
I like this approach but our history says that we'd do otherwise.
Our rebuild can't possibly be accomplished in one year.
It may take three years. I like what the Celtics are doing.
Accumulating assets and being patient.
Hopefully, Phil thinks like you do instead of taking the disaster route of former GMs.

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12/7/2014  2:17 PM
Good stuff. I'd be on board with this
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12/7/2014  2:46 PM
SF is the only position we have a long term solution filled. And no bench. Cap space alone isn't going to fill all the holes. And it may take to long depending on a draft pick each yr after and mid level exception. This draft has a lot of players that are sounding real good to me. Like SGs Levert and Bird.
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12/7/2014  4:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/7/2014  4:11 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
VCoug wrote:There's also Detroit with Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings.

Smith contract runs to long. And Jennings isn't a throw away player u give up a pick to dump. The salary cap around the NBA is pretty good. Not to many teams with unreadable contracts. Smith may be the last one at the moment.

That's why we'd have a legitimate shot of making it happen for Detriot's pick this year. No one is trading for Josh and the Pistons prefer to keep Monroe. If we do them that big of a favor, they'd pony up their pick, particularly if we found a way to acquire later picks in the draft to swap with them, along with Amare's expirer. This could work:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nvfm7dn

DET gets two first round picks from DAL and NOP. We get DET's unprotected pick this year, which could be top 3 and dump JR's contract. The deal screws us out of cap space in 2015 but the market is pretty bare anyway. To me, the opportunity to walk away from this draft with with an Emannuel Mudiay/Stanley Johnson and Karl Towns/Jahlil Okafor, outweigh the benefits of cap space, which is why I'd do the deal. Maybe we could immediately flip Eric Gordon for OJ Mayo and Jared Dudley; then turn Dudley into an expirer (e.g. Derrick Williams of the Kings). That'd at least give us $6 million wiggle room to sign a decent role player.

Knicks need to use the cap space for assets.

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