I dont recall the optimists going awol from the board this early last year though.....where' y'all at? 75% of the games are still left to be played. Dont give up this soon.

Since Im a proponent of rebuilding, I prefer a high draft position. Thats Love, not hate.

Ah well.

franco12 wrote:The team has shown flashes- we've made stellar come backs, lost close cames.

Can they play that way from the start of games?

I think the thing that has shocked me the most, though, is how this group last year and this year - with many key components from the 54 win team- can stink so bad!

If Melo, Amare & Jr all were given the green light at 30+mins. They would probably win more. We wouldn't be a contender but there ability to be streaky would win us and lose us games probably leveling off in the high 30s to low 40s in terms of wins.

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:I never left. The 60 game win streak starts tonight!
It's funny how pissy the Sombers get though when you criticize the coolness of hate.

Ah well.

Yeah, I'll give you lots of credit for sticking around.

knickscity wrote:Gotta admit, I miss you guys, you know who you are....the one's who truly believe the Knicks can and will turn things around. Kinda hard to have a discussion now when everyone agrees the team is trash.

I dont recall the optimists going awol from the board this early last year though.....where' y'all at? 75% of the games are still left to be played. Dont give up this soon.

I think not having a first round pick last year made fans want to believe the Knicks can turn it around, many we're hoping the Knicks wouldn't be the worst in a year without a pick. Didn't really have the draft so there was no interest in losing. This year it's all about the lotto for me.

There is no way around it, it makes absolutely no sense in winning when you know the team won't win a championship. Backing into the playoffs is about the worst thing any team can do.

Vmart wrote:

knickscity wrote:Gotta admit, I miss you guys, you know who you are....the one's who truly believe the Knicks can and will turn things around. Kinda hard to have a discussion now when everyone agrees the team is trash.

I dont recall the optimists going awol from the board this early last year though.....where' y'all at? 75% of the games are still left to be played. Dont give up this soon.

I think not having a first round pick last year made fans want to believe the Knicks can turn it around, many we're hoping the Knicks wouldn't be the worst in a year without a pick. Didn't really have the draft so there was no interest in losing. This year it's all about the lotto for me.

There is no way around it, it makes absolutely no sense in winning when you know the team won't win a championship. Backing into the playoffs is about the worst thing any team can do.

1999 called to say hello. To the aged among us, that wasn't all that long ago.

I believe all but the most embittered knicks fans are resigned to the fact that we won our one and only lottery. Dolan isn't spending billions renovating a building and paying 85 million for names to replicate Philly.

That, and the fact that our first round draft history since then has been pretty bleak.

IronWillGiroud wrote:i'm always an optimist,

i never stop believing in my team

do you remember linsanity?

Yeah, no matter what's happening, or what the facts are saying, part of me always thinks "maybe next game we turn things around" Not sure if thats a good or bad thing!

Next year lookin better than ever!

Not this time. The system will be ingrained no matter what. That makes me optimistic.

Amare is doing well so why increase his minutes. what ever team is doing with him is a good thing. Maybe we need to give the staff some credit!

The media can't sit by and not say something. ANGER sells so let them be critical or say how disappointed we should all be. To me short term fixes is never a good thing. Phil knows the gig and knows if they lose what the media will do. I don't care what he says, I just care what he does. OR doesn't do.

The longer we don't try to patch the roster, the more optimistic I ams.