fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I want to give some credit where it's due. While he is not the answer for starting PG--every team needs 2nd-3rd string PG's. I think his play has been improving and he looks like he can really be a quality 3 pt shooter and an athletic pest on D against 2nd line players.

I always want to retain as many players as possible that make sense. IF Shane is willing to stay for a 3 year 4.5mm$ contract--Id make that type of commitment to him after the season IF he can continue on this upswing pace. I think he can be developed into a quality back up who over time would be able to step in the lead 1 spot in terms of injuries etc... Im thinking along the lines of a Jose Barea type--game slightly different but can be a nice bench piece.

he's gone. I bitched about this before. By not picking up his option the most we can offer him starts at the $1.6mm he would have made. IF another team offers him 2 years $6mm ($3mm per year) he's gone. I think he will get that from a team that needs a good backup PG. Some team will take a shot at young athletic PG for that money. I have no doubt.

I liked Shane as a prospect. He's warm body/rental right now

I don't know about that--depends on his play over the next 60. Im fine with 1.6mm a year--thats my line with him or any other back up

gunsnewing wrote:its a good thing we didn't pick up his option which was peanuts

BRIGGS wrote:I want to give some credit where it's due. While he is not the answer for starting PG--every team needs 2nd-3rd string PG's. I think his play has been improving and he looks like he can really be a quality 3 pt shooter and an athletic pest on D against 2nd line players.

I always want to retain as many players as possible that make sense. IF Shane is willing to stay for a 3 year 4.5mm$ contract--Id make that type of commitment to him after the season IF he can continue on this upswing pace. I think he can be developed into a quality back up who over time would be able to step in the lead 1 spot in terms of injuries etc... Im thinking along the lines of a Jose Barea type--game slightly different but can be a nice bench piece.

I am glad you've finally seen the light on this dude. He is by far our best defender. The PG position is the hardest position to learn. Basically, he is the QB of the team. He can shoot the ball; which is a plus, but needs to be encouraged to be more vocal.

gunsnewing wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Shane is not good for this system. His lack of length is causing problems when it comes to making easy passes. He has problems entering the post and even passing it back cross court when pressured because players sizes impeded his passing angles.

Thats not a system issue. It's a size & limitations issue. We are not even playing system basketball right now. Still I like him as a backup PG

It is a system issue because in this system it requires a lot of passing from a stand still. There would be a difference in the angles in a high PnR system because he would be on the move with possible clearer vision. Yes, there would be some of the same issues when passing but the fewer opportunities would hide his deficiencies.

He is short and not long and that problem will be with him in any system but the triangle is not good for him.

Knicks1969 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Shane is not good for this system. His lack of length is causing problems when it comes to making easy passes. He has problems entering the post and even passing it back cross court when pressured because players sizes impeded his passing angles.

Thats not a system issue. It's a size & limitations issue. We are not even playing system basketball right now. Still I like him as a backup PG

It is a system issue because in this system it requires a lot of passing from a stand still. There would be a difference in the angles in a high PnR system because he would be on the move with possible clearer vision. Yes, there would be some of the same issues when passing but the fewer opportunities would hide his deficiencies.

He is short and not long and that problem will be with him in any system but the triangle is not good for him.

This kid is by far our smartest young guard on this current roster. Priggioni and Calderon are getting up there age wise. It is imperative we keep and coach this young dude. The next smart young kid on the roster is Cleantony.

To those of you who don't value larkin because of his small stature, please remember that intelligence and a desire to be great can at times compensate for size. This kid will soon make you all regret talking crop about him. As soon we have better veterans on the roster, our young dudes will be better.

you state your predictions as definite facts

yellowboy90 wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Shane is not good for this system. His lack of length is causing problems when it comes to making easy passes. He has problems entering the post and even passing it back cross court when pressured because players sizes impeded his passing angles.

Thats not a system issue. It's a size & limitations issue. We are not even playing system basketball right now. Still I like him as a backup PG

It is a system issue because in this system it requires a lot of passing from a stand still. There would be a difference in the angles in a high PnR system because he would be on the move with possible clearer vision. Yes, there would be some of the same issues when passing but the fewer opportunities would hide his deficiencies.

He is short and not long and that problem will be with him in any system but the triangle is not good for him.

This kid is by far our smartest young guard on this current roster. Priggioni and Calderon are getting up there age wise. It is imperative we keep and coach this young dude. The next smart young kid on the roster is Cleantony.

To those of you who don't value larkin because of his small stature, please remember that intelligence and a desire to be great can at times compensate for size. This kid will soon make you all regret talking crop about him. As soon we have better veterans on the roster, our young dudes will be better.

I don't know if he is smart or not. He has done a lot of stupid stuff too. He is young and shows a little bit of promise but the way he is playing he will be out of the league soon. He doesn't seem to play with any confidence offensively and although he hustles on D and get some steals he can be beat easily in the PnR, post, and catch and shoots.

Larkin is a dime a dozen and isn't that good

We're gonna need that $1.7mil just like

We're gonna need that $1.4mil

I reserve judgment until end of season, but if he's a solid backup PG, he's worth 1.5m per year.