I don't know what happened but his confidence is completely shot his trade value is shot and his value to the team as is right now is poor.

I believe strongly this is what the D league if for. When a young player needs to find rhythm he can go down for 5 games with instructions to use the dribble take clean shots move the ball when needed and to take responsibility on defense---he can do that freely with 40 minutes a night for 5 straight games. It's not a demotion--its to light a fire under him and get his skills flowing again.

I hope NY has NOT given up on him or are using him to get rid of anyone. We need to rehabilitate his skills and game. That is what the D league is for.

Coach him on his defensive assignment and never ask him to provide help defense. Teach him one thing at a time, once he masters the art of guarding his man 1 on 1, he can then move to help defense. As for now he needs to glue himself to whomever he is defending.

If done properly,in two seasons we might be talking about a star

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I haven't been able to watch as many games as I would like this season, but from what Ive seen THJ needs to take it to the rim a lot more, and rebuild his confidence. Sometimes just trying to shoot your way out of it won't work.

right! He settles for way too many jumpers to try to shoot himself into the game. He is good at taking it to the hole and should do it more.

Seriously, I'm surprised he doesn't do it more often. Hardaway has a great first step.

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I haven't been able to watch as many games as I would like this season, but from what Ive seen THJ needs to take it to the rim a lot more, and rebuild his confidence. Sometimes just trying to shoot your way out of it won't work.

right! He settles for way too many jumpers to try to shoot himself into the game. He is good at taking it to the hole and should do it more.

I think it's very easy to see. Tim H needs more development in his game. In the D league he will be able to play 4-5 games "free" for 38+ minutes with instructions to play a full all around game that includes using your dribble just as much as you use your J. Getting back on D and into your stance watching the ball and the man, helping when needed. Rebounding passing to the open man the whole shibang. My bet is his confidence would rise quite dramatically and would be more prepared to take a bigger role with the big club. He needs to take a step back to take 3 steps 4ward.

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I haven't been able to watch as many games as I would like this season, but from what Ive seen THJ needs to take it to the rim a lot more, and rebuild his confidence. Sometimes just trying to shoot your way out of it won't work.

right! He settles for way too many jumpers to try to shoot himself into the game. He is good at taking it to the hole and should do it more.

I think it's very easy to see. Tim H needs more development in his game. In the D league he will be able to play 4-5 games "free" for 38+ minutes with instructions to play a full all around game that includes using your dribble just as much as you use your J. Getting back on D and into your stance watching the ball and the man, helping when needed. Rebounding passing to the open man the whole shibang. My bet is his confidence would rise quite dramatically and would be more prepared to take a bigger role with the big club. He needs to take a step back to take 3 steps 4ward.

It all depends on how he handles the demotion, it could work if he goes there with the right attitude. I honestly don't know how THJ would react to being sent down.

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I haven't been able to watch as many games as I would like this season, but from what Ive seen THJ needs to take it to the rim a lot more, and rebuild his confidence. Sometimes just trying to shoot your way out of it won't work.

right! He settles for way too many jumpers to try to shoot himself into the game. He is good at taking it to the hole and should do it more.

I think it's very easy to see. Tim H needs more development in his game. In the D league he will be able to play 4-5 games "free" for 38+ minutes with instructions to play a full all around game that includes using your dribble just as much as you use your J. Getting back on D and into your stance watching the ball and the man, helping when needed. Rebounding passing to the open man the whole shibang. My bet is his confidence would rise quite dramatically and would be more prepared to take a bigger role with the big club. He needs to take a step back to take 3 steps 4ward.

It all depends on how he handles the demotion, it could work if he goes there with the right attitude. I honestly don't know how THJ would react to being sent down.

which highlights his biggest problem. his psyche

Its still early in the season, he may yet get his confidence back. His dad said that Tim doesn't like to take advice from him. I think he really wants to live up to the family name and establish himself in his own right. The pressure might be getting to him after such a promising rookie season. Hard to say from a distance. Hope it works out, we could use a reliable shooter.

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I haven't been able to watch as many games as I would like this season, but from what Ive seen THJ needs to take it to the rim a lot more, and rebuild his confidence. Sometimes just trying to shoot your way out of it won't work.

right! He settles for way too many jumpers to try to shoot himself into the game. He is good at taking it to the hole and should do it more.

I think it's very easy to see. Tim H needs more development in his game. In the D league he will be able to play 4-5 games "free" for 38+ minutes with instructions to play a full all around game that includes using your dribble just as much as you use your J. Getting back on D and into your stance watching the ball and the man, helping when needed. Rebounding passing to the open man the whole shibang. My bet is his confidence would rise quite dramatically and would be more prepared to take a bigger role with the big club. He needs to take a step back to take 3 steps 4ward.

It all depends on how he handles the demotion, it could work if he goes there with the right attitude. I honestly don't know how THJ would react to being sent down.

which highlights his biggest problem. his psyche

Its still early in the season, he may yet get his confidence back. His dad said that Tim doesn't like to take advice from him. I think he really wants to live up to the family name and establish himself in his own right. The pressure might be getting to him after such a promising rookie season. Hard to say from a distance. Hope it works out, we could use a reliable shooter.

I guess that I am one of the only ones that was not that impressed with his rookie season.

Really? he was NBA rookie first team, there were a few games last season when he was money in crunch time. I guess he has "Stark's disease", feast or famine.

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I haven't been able to watch as many games as I would like this season, but from what Ive seen THJ needs to take it to the rim a lot more, and rebuild his confidence. Sometimes just trying to shoot your way out of it won't work.

right! He settles for way too many jumpers to try to shoot himself into the game. He is good at taking it to the hole and should do it more.

I think it's very easy to see. Tim H needs more development in his game. In the D league he will be able to play 4-5 games "free" for 38+ minutes with instructions to play a full all around game that includes using your dribble just as much as you use your J. Getting back on D and into your stance watching the ball and the man, helping when needed. Rebounding passing to the open man the whole shibang. My bet is his confidence would rise quite dramatically and would be more prepared to take a bigger role with the big club. He needs to take a step back to take 3 steps 4ward.

It all depends on how he handles the demotion, it could work if he goes there with the right attitude. I honestly don't know how THJ would react to being sent down.

which highlights his biggest problem. his psyche

Its still early in the season, he may yet get his confidence back. His dad said that Tim doesn't like to take advice from him. I think he really wants to live up to the family name and establish himself in his own right. The pressure might be getting to him after such a promising rookie season. Hard to say from a distance. Hope it works out, we could use a reliable shooter.

I guess that I am one of the only ones that was not that impressed with his rookie season.

Really? he was NBA rookie first team, there were a few games last season when he was money in crunch time. I guess he has "Stark's disease", feast or famine.

yeah ... feast or famine really gets to me.

And, if you are gonna miss shots in volume you better make up for it by playing defense and/or rebounding which he may be the worst player in the league at both.

He definitely has some skills so I can end up being wrong about him but he better figure it out quick or he will be trying to figure it out on another team.

Pluses - very good in transition and has good body control and finishing skills at the hoop. His shot when on is pretty but very often its flat and has very little arc.

Minuses - everything else :-(

Yup, Hardaway definitely isn't a finished product. Players like THJ and Shumpert have poor lateral movement on D. At least Shump's lateral quickness was better his rookie year before he got hurt. Hard to stay in front of some of the faster guards in this league without it. It is something they can improve on if they make the commitment to focus on that aspect of their game.

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I haven't been able to watch as many games as I would like this season, but from what Ive seen THJ needs to take it to the rim a lot more, and rebuild his confidence. Sometimes just trying to shoot your way out of it won't work.

right! He settles for way too many jumpers to try to shoot himself into the game. He is good at taking it to the hole and should do it more.

I think it's very easy to see. Tim H needs more development in his game. In the D league he will be able to play 4-5 games "free" for 38+ minutes with instructions to play a full all around game that includes using your dribble just as much as you use your J. Getting back on D and into your stance watching the ball and the man, helping when needed. Rebounding passing to the open man the whole shibang. My bet is his confidence would rise quite dramatically and would be more prepared to take a bigger role with the big club. He needs to take a step back to take 3 steps 4ward.

It all depends on how he handles the demotion, it could work if he goes there with the right attitude. I honestly don't know how THJ would react to being sent down.

which highlights his biggest problem. his psyche

Its still early in the season, he may yet get his confidence back. His dad said that Tim doesn't like to take advice from him. I think he really wants to live up to the family name and establish himself in his own right. The pressure might be getting to him after such a promising rookie season. Hard to say from a distance. Hope it works out, we could use a reliable shooter.

I guess that I am one of the only ones that was not that impressed with his rookie season.

Really? he was NBA rookie first team, there were a few games last season when he was money in crunch time. I guess he has "Stark's disease", feast or famine.

yeah ... feast or famine really gets to me.

And, if you are gonna miss shots in volume you better make up for it by playing defense and/or rebounding which he may be the worst player in the league at both.

He definitely has some skills so I can end up being wrong about him but he better figure it out quick or he will be trying to figure it out on another team.

Pluses - very good in transition and has good body control and finishing skills at the hoop. His shot when on is pretty but very often its flat and has very little arc.

Minuses - everything else :-(

These draft picks are turning into complete trash, thats why I can never get excited about a draft, majority of these picks need years and years in the league before they figure it out. Unless you bring them into a winning culture with veteran high IQ players..by the time they figure it out, they've been traded or out of the league