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F500ONE
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11/30/2014  10:20 PM
The reason I pick these 2 players

They were supposedly the 2 most promising difference makers


To turn a borderline 37 win team into a 50 win team

You could argue Jose hasn't been healthy but it's not a valid excuse


As we needed him to be ready day 1

Chumpert hey his play never passed the eye nor stat sheet test with me


Simply a puke all your acid out of your stomach type of player

Which one of them becomes legendary
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11/30/2014  10:24 PM
I told you all that Shump could not keep the early production up. He got all of his points minus Carlderon in the lineup. Upon Calderon's return he is no longer asked to dominate the ball, so that messed up his rythm. Giving the greenlight he is given by fisher, this dude really should be called on for more points and rebounds. He is by far the only guard who has gotten consistent minutes under Fisher
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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11/30/2014  10:44 PM
F500ONE wrote:The reason I pick these 2 players

They were supposedly the 2 most promising difference makers


To turn a borderline 37 win team into a 50 win team

You could argue Jose hasn't been healthy but it's not a valid excuse


As we needed him to be ready day 1

Chumpert hey his play never passed the eye nor stat sheet test with me


Simply a puke all your acid out of your stomach type of player

Which one of them becomes legendary

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
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11/30/2014  10:53 PM
Yes they a players of mythical proportions!!!
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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11/30/2014  11:10 PM
Splat wrote:
F500ONE wrote:The reason I pick these 2 players

They were supposedly the 2 most promising difference makers


To turn a borderline 37 win team into a 50 win team

You could argue Jose hasn't been healthy but it's not a valid excuse


As we needed him to be ready day 1

Chumpert hey his play never passed the eye nor stat sheet test with me


Simply a puke all your acid out of your stomach type of player

Which one of them becomes legendary

you sir are a jeanyus

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
Splat
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11/30/2014  11:24 PM
dk7th wrote:
Splat wrote:
F500ONE wrote:The reason I pick these 2 players

They were supposedly the 2 most promising difference makers


To turn a borderline 37 win team into a 50 win team

You could argue Jose hasn't been healthy but it's not a valid excuse


As we needed him to be ready day 1

Chumpert hey his play never passed the eye nor stat sheet test with me


Simply a puke all your acid out of your stomach type of player

Which one of them becomes legendary

you sir are a jeanyus

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
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12/1/2014  5:34 AM
They turned a 37 win team into a 22 win team!
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12/1/2014  5:40 AM
So we're judging Calderon now when he clearly isn't up to speed after missing a month. Brilliant. Keep up the excellent analysis and Dolan esq patience Knick fans!
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12/1/2014  5:43 AM
F500ONE wrote:

To turn a borderline 37 win team into a 50 win team

You could argue Jose hasn't been healthy but it's not a valid excuse


As we needed him to be ready day 1

This is the most feeble bit of reasoning I've read in a while. We're back to the old 'facts don't count!'.
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12/1/2014  5:45 AM
smackeddog wrote:So we're judging Calderon now when he clearly isn't up to speed after missing a month. Brilliant. Keep up the excellent analysis and Dolan esq patience Knick fans!

I wasn't being serious there. The downgrade is probably mostly the loss of Tyson and maybe slightly the coaching change.
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12/1/2014  7:16 AM
You could argue Jose hasn't been healthy but it's not a valid excuse

As we needed him to be ready day 1

Awesome.
One guy is an 11 year pro who is a member of the 50-40-90 club and he starts off the year hurt and now he is a myth because he got hurt at the start of the season?
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12/1/2014  8:11 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
You could argue Jose hasn't been healthy but it's not a valid excuse

As we needed him to be ready day 1

Awesome.
One guy is an 11 year pro who is a member of the 50-40-90 club and he starts off the year hurt and now he is a myth because he got hurt at the start of the season?
injuries happen so i dont blame him for that. However personally i have never been a big calderon fan. Like his shooting but i dotn think he is a pg who will make a huge difference
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12/1/2014  8:17 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
You could argue Jose hasn't been healthy but it's not a valid excuse

As we needed him to be ready day 1

Awesome.
One guy is an 11 year pro who is a member of the 50-40-90 club and he starts off the year hurt and now he is a myth because he got hurt at the start of the season?
injuries happen so i dont blame him for that. However personally i have never been a big calderon fan. Like his shooting but i dotn think he is a pg who will make a huge difference

Calderon is absolutely a difference maker but the problem is we need him to be our 2nd best player and that shouldn't be the case. But he's a great role player.
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12/1/2014  8:22 AM
actually looking at this team I think Phil has it right. Calderon and Melo are the only keepers. Everyone else is gone. Hopefully it doesnt cost us anything to purge JR.
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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12/1/2014  8:28 AM
Knixkik wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
You could argue Jose hasn't been healthy but it's not a valid excuse

As we needed him to be ready day 1

Awesome.
One guy is an 11 year pro who is a member of the 50-40-90 club and he starts off the year hurt and now he is a myth because he got hurt at the start of the season?
injuries happen so i dont blame him for that. However personally i have never been a big calderon fan. Like his shooting but i dotn think he is a pg who will make a huge difference

Calderon is absolutely a difference maker but the problem is we need him to be our 2nd best player and that shouldn't be the case. But he's a great role player.

But this is what happens when you go all in on one player and without draft picks
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12/1/2014  8:59 AM
Knixkik wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
You could argue Jose hasn't been healthy but it's not a valid excuse

As we needed him to be ready day 1

Awesome.
One guy is an 11 year pro who is a member of the 50-40-90 club and he starts off the year hurt and now he is a myth because he got hurt at the start of the season?
injuries happen so i dont blame him for that. However personally i have never been a big calderon fan. Like his shooting but i dotn think he is a pg who will make a huge difference

Calderon is absolutely a difference maker but the problem is we need him to be our 2nd best player and that shouldn't be the case. But he's a great role player.

Nothing in his career suggest that he's been this

We have him back now and we're not playing better


He's been ultra subpar, okay chalk it up to being behind

The rest of the league near 20gms in


What player does he make better on our team

Does our offense look better


Are we still getting ate up in the back court
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12/1/2014  9:09 AM
Jose is not a building block. He's a medium-term rental, a place marker for the PG position should the Knicks ever snap out of their PG purgatory mind funkadunk and get a quality PG who could be around for a while.

Jose can't fix stupid. It's not a smart collection of players. And Jose can't do much to help already spotty to horrid D. He's not going to save this team.

He looks overpriced now, probably a bad move now since we have to tank to save the franchise. Would have been just as happy rolling this season with World Class Pablo, crack baby and a cheap FA PG.

My original assumption was he was hired to teach our team how to play the triangle, but that doesn't compute any longer. Too many dummies and pigheads to teach.

He's OK. Not special and definitely not a game changer. We'll keep losing.

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
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12/1/2014  9:13 AM
F500ONE wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
You could argue Jose hasn't been healthy but it's not a valid excuse

As we needed him to be ready day 1

Awesome.
One guy is an 11 year pro who is a member of the 50-40-90 club and he starts off the year hurt and now he is a myth because he got hurt at the start of the season?
injuries happen so i dont blame him for that. However personally i have never been a big calderon fan. Like his shooting but i dotn think he is a pg who will make a huge difference

Calderon is absolutely a difference maker but the problem is we need him to be our 2nd best player and that shouldn't be the case. But he's a great role player.

Nothing in his career suggest that he's been this

We have him back now and we're not playing better


He's been ultra subpar, okay chalk it up to being behind

The rest of the league near 20gms in


What player does he make better on our team

Does our offense look better


Are we still getting ate up in the back court


I agree with that. If you can be fully replaced by Jameer Nelson and Devin Harris and the team's offense is actually better now, what does that say?
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12/1/2014  9:43 AM
Splat wrote:Felton is not a building block. He's a medium-term rental, a place marker for the PG position should the Knicks ever snap out of their PG purgatory mind funkadunk and get a quality PG who could be around for a while.

Felton can't fix stupid. It's not a smart collection of players. And Felton can't do much to help already spotty to horrid D. He's not going to save this team.

Would have been just as happy rolling this season with World Class Pablo, crack baby and a cheaper PG Felton.

Too many dummies and pigheads to teach.

Felton plays hard but he's special and definitely not a game changer. We'll keep losing.
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12/1/2014  9:45 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/1/2014  9:45 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
You could argue Jose hasn't been healthy but it's not a valid excuse

As we needed him to be ready day 1

Awesome.
One guy is an 11 year pro who is a member of the 50-40-90 club and he starts off the year hurt and now he is a myth because he got hurt at the start of the season?
injuries happen so i dont blame him for that. However personally i have never been a big calderon fan. Like his shooting but i dotn think he is a pg who will make a huge difference

Calderon is absolutely a difference maker but the problem is we need him to be our 2nd best player and that shouldn't be the case. But he's a great role player.

Nothing in his career suggest that he's been this

We have him back now and we're not playing better


He's been ultra subpar, okay chalk it up to being behind

The rest of the league near 20gms in


What player does he make better on our team

Does our offense look better


Are we still getting ate up in the back court


I agree with that. If you can be fully replaced by Jameer Nelson and Devin Harris and the team's offense is actually better now, what does that say?

Quite possibly maybe one of the most over sold Knick ever

And no disrespect to Jose, I like him but he's not that guy
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