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11/21/2014  5:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/21/2014  5:56 PM
lol @ this D-Bag trying to Carmelize

His contract as a paycut and making things easier


For the Lakers to put a winning product on the floor

This clown is quite possibly the most delusional athlete in all of sports history


Dude you tore your achilles to shreds

You blew out your kneecap afterwards and missed almost a season and a half of basketball


And still got $50mil at the age of 36

Yet you mention you took a paycut


All because you didn't take the full cap figure

You were entitled to and went down a couple mil from your ending previous salary


Then he wants to degrade what Dirk did by

Saying it's a coup on the owner's to pressure players


Kobe is such an A-Wipe, Dirk took even less

Than what the Mavs originally offered him, he's done this twice


Because that's what TEAM players do


http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11914742/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-says-hometown-discount-deals-big-coup-owners


DALLAS -- Kobe Bryant considers the public pressure for longtime NBA stars to take hometown-discount deals, such as Dirk Nowitzki's contract, "a big coup" for NBA owners.

"It's the popular thing to do," Bryant said after the Los Angeles Lakers' shootaround in preparation for Friday's game against Nowitzki's Dallas Mavericks. "The player takes less, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think it's a big coup for the owners to put players in situations where public perception puts pressure on them to take less money. Because if you don't, then you get criticized for it.

"It's absolutely brilliant, but I'm not going for it. I know the new head of the players' association ain't going for it, either."

Bryant, 36, agreed to a two-year, $48.5 million extension with the Lakers last season, when he was recovering from a torn Achilles tendon. The deal is for less than Bryant was eligible to make on a maximum contract but still makes him the highest-paid player in the league.

Nowitzki, 36, re-signed with the Mavs this summer for $25 million over three years, taking far less than his market value to leave Dallas owner Mark Cuban enough salary-cap space to make roster upgrades.

What does Bryant think about Nowitzki, who has never used an agent, taking such a steep hometown discount?

"I think it means he's not playing in Los Angeles," Bryant said with a laugh.

Nowitzki, who has made more than $200 million during his career, has said several times that the chance to win a second championship is much more important to him than money during his basketball golden years. The Mavs, whose offseason acquisitions included center Tyson Chandler and small forward Chandler Parsons, are off to a 9-3 start.

Bryant, who had almost $280 million in career earnings entering this season, has won five championships and believes the Lakers can contend again with him as the league's highest-paid player. The Lakers, who are off to a 3-9 start after winning their last two, had enough cap space to pursue Carmelo Anthony and Chris Bosh in free agency this summer but weren't able to sign either player.

"This is where players get themselves in a lot of trouble, which me in my 19th year I really don't care, so I'll kind of say what I need to say," said Bryant, who indicated that he would retire at the end of this contract. "But I think you've got to look at the business of basketball. I think for a lot of writers, for a lot of fans, they have a very tough time distinguishing the two.

"This is a business, and you have to look at individuals and what they generate and the market that they're generating revenue in. And you can't separate those. People have a hard time separating that stuff. From a business perspective, you have to take that stuff into account and you have to try to, as a player, be in situations where it can be a win-win for everybody.

"So did I take a discount? Yeah. Did I take as big a discount as some of you fans would want me to? No. Is it a big enough discount to help us be a contender? Yeah. So what we try to do is be in a situation where they take care of the player and the player takes care of the organization enough to put us in a championship predicament eventually."

Bryant addressed some of the same issues before the start of the season, saying at one point that players "are overpaid but so are the owners."

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11/21/2014  6:16 PM
Nowitzki's salary concessions are amazing compared to other top players in the league.
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11/21/2014  6:17 PM
Splat wrote:Nowitzki's salary concessions are amazing compared to other top players in the league.

"Stupid", not "amazing".

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11/21/2014  6:20 PM
Kobe has been saying for months or longer that stars should get paid and not give the owners discounts to build their teams. Not sure why this is suddenly news again. ESPN seems to be specializing in rehashing things this week.
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11/21/2014  6:22 PM
F500ONE wrote:lol @ this D-Bag trying to Carmelize

His contract as a paycut and making things easier


For the Lakers to put a winning product on the floor

This clown is quite possibly the most delusional athlete in all of sports history


Dude you tore your achilles to shreds

You blew out your kneecap afterwards and missed almost a season and a half of basketball


And still got $50mil at the age of 36

Yet you mention you took a paycut


All because you didn't take the full cap figure

You were entitled to and went down a couple mil from your ending previous salary


Then he wants to degrade what Dirk did by

Saying it's a coup on the owner's to pressure players


Kobe is such an A-Wipe, Dirk took even less

Than what the Mavs originally offered him, he's done this twice


Because that's what TEAM players do


http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11914742/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-says-hometown-discount-deals-big-coup-owners


DALLAS -- Kobe Bryant considers the public pressure for longtime NBA stars to take hometown-discount deals, such as Dirk Nowitzki's contract, "a big coup" for NBA owners.

"It's the popular thing to do," Bryant said after the Los Angeles Lakers' shootaround in preparation for Friday's game against Nowitzki's Dallas Mavericks. "The player takes less, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think it's a big coup for the owners to put players in situations where public perception puts pressure on them to take less money. Because if you don't, then you get criticized for it.

"It's absolutely brilliant, but I'm not going for it. I know the new head of the players' association ain't going for it, either."

Bryant, 36, agreed to a two-year, $48.5 million extension with the Lakers last season, when he was recovering from a torn Achilles tendon. The deal is for less than Bryant was eligible to make on a maximum contract but still makes him the highest-paid player in the league.

Nowitzki, 36, re-signed with the Mavs this summer for $25 million over three years, taking far less than his market value to leave Dallas owner Mark Cuban enough salary-cap space to make roster upgrades.

What does Bryant think about Nowitzki, who has never used an agent, taking such a steep hometown discount?

"I think it means he's not playing in Los Angeles," Bryant said with a laugh.

Nowitzki, who has made more than $200 million during his career, has said several times that the chance to win a second championship is much more important to him than money during his basketball golden years. The Mavs, whose offseason acquisitions included center Tyson Chandler and small forward Chandler Parsons, are off to a 9-3 start.

Bryant, who had almost $280 million in career earnings entering this season, has won five championships and believes the Lakers can contend again with him as the league's highest-paid player. The Lakers, who are off to a 3-9 start after winning their last two, had enough cap space to pursue Carmelo Anthony and Chris Bosh in free agency this summer but weren't able to sign either player.

"This is where players get themselves in a lot of trouble, which me in my 19th year I really don't care, so I'll kind of say what I need to say," said Bryant, who indicated that he would retire at the end of this contract. "But I think you've got to look at the business of basketball. I think for a lot of writers, for a lot of fans, they have a very tough time distinguishing the two.

"This is a business, and you have to look at individuals and what they generate and the market that they're generating revenue in. And you can't separate those. People have a hard time separating that stuff. From a business perspective, you have to take that stuff into account and you have to try to, as a player, be in situations where it can be a win-win for everybody.

"So did I take a discount? Yeah. Did I take as big a discount as some of you fans would want me to? No. Is it a big enough discount to help us be a contender? Yeah. So what we try to do is be in a situation where they take care of the player and the player takes care of the organization enough to put us in a championship predicament eventually."

Bryant addressed some of the same issues before the start of the season, saying at one point that players "are overpaid but so are the owners."

Why should Kobe penalize himself for a system that the owners fought for? There shouldn't be a salary cap or "max" contracts to begin with. The entire thing is little more than a farce for owners to pad their pockets even more than they've been able to do in the past. And last I checked, they aren't the ones soldiering through knee injuries, broken fingers, absence away from their kids, etc. Kobe is one of the rare few to realize what the game is and is not dumb enough to play it.

P.S., if Kobe is making $20 million/yr, how much do you think the Buss family is making off of pimping his name and legacy?

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11/21/2014  6:23 PM
Splat wrote:Nowitzki's salary concessions are amazing compared to other top players in the league.

Lakers are 3-9 and Mavs are 9-3

Lakers had cap space no one wanted to go there


Mavs had cap space and Monta showed up

Calderon showed up and O.J. Mayo showed up


And Parsons showed up and Jameer showed up

And Al Farouq showed up


The Lakers had to trade for player

Sign players off waiver wires and pay their


Own free agents above market value

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11/21/2014  6:25 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Kobe has been saying for months or longer that stars should get paid and not give the owners discounts to build their teams. Not sure why this is suddenly news again. ESPN seems to be specializing in rehashing things this week.

More like retribution for Kobe calling then "stupid". Stephen A Smith's response to MCW's mild criticisms are proof of how the media treats people that don't play ball...that is if they have leverage.

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11/21/2014  6:26 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Kobe has been saying for months or longer that stars should get paid and not give the owners discounts to build their teams. Not sure why this is suddenly news again. ESPN seems to be specializing in rehashing things this week.

It probably has to do with the fact

The Lakers are playing the Mavs tonight


No more cheesy than the NY local media

Creating dumb stories amidst who we're playing that night


Remember the Kevin Love and Rondo stories last

Year when both their teams came to play at The Garden

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11/21/2014  6:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/21/2014  6:42 PM
NardDogNation wrote:Why should Kobe penalize himself for a system that the owners fought for? There shouldn't be a salary cap or "max" contracts to begin with. The entire thing is little more than a farce for owners to pad their pockets even more than they've been able to do in the past. And last I checked, they aren't the ones soldiering through knee injuries, broken fingers, absence away from their kids, etc. Kobe is one of the rare few to realize what the game is and is not dumb enough to play it.

P.S., if Kobe is making $20 million/yr, how much do you think the Buss family is making off of pimping his name and legacy?

No one is flocking to L.A. to play with that scumbag

How can a big market like L.A. struggle to sign marquee players


Or better yet keep them/////

Gasol and Howard said naaahhh don't want your money


We'll leave and take less elsewhere


When they have a supposed legend in the game

They've obviously shown they will reward you if you help their brand


What gives

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11/21/2014  6:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/21/2014  6:59 PM
F500ONE wrote:
Splat wrote:Nowitzki's salary concessions are amazing compared to other top players in the league.

Lakers are 3-9 and Mavs are 9-3

Lakers had cap space no one wanted to go there


Mavs had cap space and Monta showed up

Calderon showed up and O.J. Mayo showed up


And Parsons showed up and Jameer showed up

And Al Farouq showed up


The Lakers had to trade for player

Sign players off waiver wires and pay their


Own free agents above market value

It's humorous to me that you think Kobe is overpaid, then have the audacity to laud Chandler Parsons. who is making $16 million/yr as the 3rd best player on the Mavs. I also find it hilarious how you are choosing to revise history to portray Monta Ellis and OJ Mayo as coups in the Mavs' favors. The reality is that both guys had burnt bridges with their former teams and even became known as net negative players, Monta moreso than OJ. The reality is that those signings were last resorts by a floundering franchise who had missed out on their primary and secondary targets, Deron Williams and Dwight Howard. The difference between the Mavs and Lakers doesn't have anything to do with their stars; it has everything to do with Rick Carlisle being one of the best coaches of the modern era and Jim Buss being a moron.

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11/21/2014  6:37 PM
TripleThreat wrote:The "big coup" was not leveraging out a Dirk Nowitzki to a smaller contract.

The "coup" was winning the labor war against the players union.

Kobe had his hand in that. When he raped that girl in Colorado, when Stern wanted to make him the new marketing face of the NBA a la Jordan, it devastated the NBA as a whole. The NFL is so popular and MLB makes so much money because it appeals to more than just men. Lots of women follow the NFL, which drives it's ratings and interest. Even the college football and college basketball scene has a truck load of female fans.

Hard to market to that desirable demographic when your elite player, the face of your league is a rapist.

A black man raping a white girl outside the big lights big glitz cities and then appearing to buy his way out of it with fame and money.

Bryant probably cost the entire NBA, owners and players alike, billions with that stupidity.

Kobe wants to talk about a "coup", well what did he do about it? Was he the head of the union? Did he put in the work to protect the players like a Bob Cousy did?

He's a selfish shotjacking narcissistic rapist. He can't even hold himself back from trashing his team mates in the press. Think about it. Think about even everyone here who played organized sports in some fashion, even as kids, understanding you don't sell out and trash your team mates, not to outsiders, you keep your dirty laundry in house. He can't even abide by basic sports code that even children understand. How much of a worthless POS do you have to be to not even be able to restrain yourself when even little kids understand that concept?

He's got five rings, but he's a disgrace to the game.

And you know Kobe raped that girl, how?....

The NBA's "image" problem had nothing to do with Kobe. It does, however, have a lot to do with the underlying racism in our country. Kobe and the like could be choir boys; at the end of the day, they are Black men and with that comes some of the worst stereotypes of any racial/ethnic group.

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11/21/2014  6:44 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Splat wrote:Nowitzki's salary concessions are amazing compared to other top players in the league.

"Stupid", not "amazing".

Enlighten us

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11/21/2014  6:45 PM
F500ONE wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:Why should Kobe penalize himself for a system that the owners fought for? There shouldn't be a salary cap or "max" contracts to begin with. The entire thing is little more than a farce for owners to pad their pockets even more than they've been able to do in the past. And last I checked, they aren't the ones soldiering through knee injuries, broken fingers, absence away from their kids, etc. Kobe is one of the rare few to realize what the game is and is not dumb enough to play it.

P.S., if Kobe is making $20 million/yr, how much do you think the Buss family is making off of pimping his name and legacy?

No one is flocking to L.A. to play with that scumbag

How can a big market like L.A. struggle to sign marquee players


Or better yet keep them/////

Gasol and Howard said naaahhh don't want your money


We'll leave and take less elsewhere


When they have a supposed legend in the game

They've obviously shown they will reward you help their brand


What gives

...because no marquee player left their team aside from LeBron and the only team he was leaving MIA for was CLE. The reality is that superstars hardly ever change teams, unless it is through a trade. Unfortunately for the Lakers, they don't have any assets and so they won't be in the running to do that in the near future. That has nothing to do with Kobe and everything to do with the Lakers ineptitude in recent years (e.g. hiring D'Antoni over Phil Jackson; giving up multiple, poorly protected picks for Steve Nash; Signing Steve Nash in the first place instead of keeping Ramon Session; hiring Mike Brown, etc.). Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol ultimately left for those reasons, which has been substantiated over the years.

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11/21/2014  6:45 PM
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F500ONE wrote:
Splat wrote:Nowitzki's salary concessions are amazing compared to other top players in the league.

Lakers are 3-9 and Mavs are 9-3

Lakers had cap space no one wanted to go there


Mavs had cap space and Monta showed up

Calderon showed up and O.J. Mayo showed up


And Parsons showed up and Jameer showed up

And Al Farouq showed up


The Lakers had to trade for player

Sign players off waiver wires and pay their


Own free agents above market value

It's humorous to me that you think Kobe is overpaid, then have the audacity to laud Chandler Parsons. who is making $16 million/yr as the 3rd best player on the Mavs. I also find it hilarious how you are choosing to revise history of portray Monta Ellis and OJ Mayo as coups in the Mavs favors. The reality is that both guys had burn bridges at their previous destinations and even became known as net negative players, Monta moreso than OJ. The reality is that those signings were last resorts by a floundering franchise who had missed out on their primary and secondary targets, Deron Williams and Dwight Howard. The difference between the Mavs and Lakers doesn't have anything to do with their stars; it has everything to do with Rick Carlisle being one of the best coaches of the modern error and Jim Buss being a moron.


Lakers can't even get malcontents to sign there

The only player even remotely in the vicinity of name rec


Is Swaggy P, face it the guy you're nut munching

Is going down in shameless fame, yeah he's wealthy


But a lot of players in this league are

Dirk and Duncan are relevant today on the court when it comes to winning


Kobe is only relevant in checks and balances

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11/21/2014  6:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/21/2014  7:03 PM
Splat wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Splat wrote:Nowitzki's salary concessions are amazing compared to other top players in the league.

"Stupid", not "amazing".

Enlighten us

Because the owners made their bed, now they have to sleep in it.

Dirk didn't lobby for a salary cap. Dirk didn't lobby for the concept of a "max" contract. So why should he sacrifice money that he earned, so that his team owner could build a winner? If Cuban was so terribly concerned about that, he should've lobbied for the right to pay his players whatever the market dictated. That way, he could pay Dirk accordingly and bring in the pieces necessary to help him win.

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11/21/2014  6:54 PM
F500ONE wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
Splat wrote:Nowitzki's salary concessions are amazing compared to other top players in the league.

Lakers are 3-9 and Mavs are 9-3

Lakers had cap space no one wanted to go there


Mavs had cap space and Monta showed up

Calderon showed up and O.J. Mayo showed up


And Parsons showed up and Jameer showed up

And Al Farouq showed up


The Lakers had to trade for player

Sign players off waiver wires and pay their


Own free agents above market value

It's humorous to me that you think Kobe is overpaid, then have the audacity to laud Chandler Parsons. who is making $16 million/yr as the 3rd best player on the Mavs. I also find it hilarious how you are choosing to revise history of portray Monta Ellis and OJ Mayo as coups in the Mavs favors. The reality is that both guys had burn bridges at their previous destinations and even became known as net negative players, Monta moreso than OJ. The reality is that those signings were last resorts by a floundering franchise who had missed out on their primary and secondary targets, Deron Williams and Dwight Howard. The difference between the Mavs and Lakers doesn't have anything to do with their stars; it has everything to do with Rick Carlisle being one of the best coaches of the modern error and Jim Buss being a moron.


Lakers can't even get malcontents to sign there

The only player even remotely in the vicinity of name rec


Is Swaggy P, face it the guy you're nut munching

Is going down in shameless fame, yeah he's wealthy


But a lot of players in this league are

Dirk and Duncan are relevant today on the court when it comes to winning


Kobe is only relevant in checks and balances

What malcontent were the Lakers trying to get and missed out on? Seems it took them all of a week after LeBron and Melo's decision to trade for Jeremy Lin, lock up Carlos Boozer and come to terms with re-threads from the year before, which put them over the cap. So I ask again, who were they pursuing that they missed out on?

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11/21/2014  6:56 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Splat wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Splat wrote:Nowitzki's salary concessions are amazing compared to other top players in the league.

"Stupid", not "amazing".

Enlighten us

Because the owners made their bed, now they have to sleep in it.

Dirk didn't lobby for a salary cap. Dirk didn't lobby for the concept of a "max" contract. So why should he sacrifice money that he earned, so that his team owner could build a winner? If Cuban was so terribly concerned about that, he should've lobbied for the right to play his players whatever thd market dictated.

But doesn't winning increase everyone's Brand-Value

Let me ask you, how much money do you think Melo


Could make off the court if he won 1 chip in New York

How about multiple championships what would that monetarily


Equate to, towards the Melo brand and Knicks brand overall

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11/21/2014  7:05 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
Splat wrote:Nowitzki's salary concessions are amazing compared to other top players in the league.

Lakers are 3-9 and Mavs are 9-3

Lakers had cap space no one wanted to go there


Mavs had cap space and Monta showed up

Calderon showed up and O.J. Mayo showed up


And Parsons showed up and Jameer showed up

And Al Farouq showed up


The Lakers had to trade for player

Sign players off waiver wires and pay their


Own free agents above market value

It's humorous to me that you think Kobe is overpaid, then have the audacity to laud Chandler Parsons. who is making $16 million/yr as the 3rd best player on the Mavs. I also find it hilarious how you are choosing to revise history of portray Monta Ellis and OJ Mayo as coups in the Mavs favors. The reality is that both guys had burn bridges at their previous destinations and even became known as net negative players, Monta moreso than OJ. The reality is that those signings were last resorts by a floundering franchise who had missed out on their primary and secondary targets, Deron Williams and Dwight Howard. The difference between the Mavs and Lakers doesn't have anything to do with their stars; it has everything to do with Rick Carlisle being one of the best coaches of the modern error and Jim Buss being a moron.


Lakers can't even get malcontents to sign there

The only player even remotely in the vicinity of name rec


Is Swaggy P, face it the guy you're nut munching

Is going down in shameless fame, yeah he's wealthy


But a lot of players in this league are

Dirk and Duncan are relevant today on the court when it comes to winning


Kobe is only relevant in checks and balances

What malcontent were the Lakers trying to get and missed out on? Seems it took them all of a week after LeBron and Melo's decision to trade for Jeremy Lin, lock up Carlos Boozer and come to terms with re-threads from the year before, which put them over the cap. So I ask again, who were they pursuing that they missed out on?


I mentioned malcontents as a means to say

Those are the only players who were available to sign


They were interested in Deng-Parsons-Stephenson-Kyle Lowry

Whiffed on all of them, why


I already stated they went the route you rehashed because

They couldn't get done what a prized organization like them should get done


And no it took them a while to get things accomplished

The Melo dilemma took almost 2 and half weeks


Then the Bulls didn't get the Boozer situation resolved until

Gasol made up his mind, it took a while for them to shape their


Roster after listening to all the


HELL NOS

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11/21/2014  7:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/21/2014  7:41 PM
F500ONE wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Splat wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Splat wrote:Nowitzki's salary concessions are amazing compared to other top players in the league.

"Stupid", not "amazing".

Enlighten us

Because the owners made their bed, now they have to sleep in it.

Dirk didn't lobby for a salary cap. Dirk didn't lobby for the concept of a "max" contract. So why should he sacrifice money that he earned, so that his team owner could build a winner? If Cuban was so terribly concerned about that, he should've lobbied for the right to play his players whatever thd market dictated.

But doesn't winning increase everyone's Brand-Value

Let me ask you, how much money do you think Melo


Could make off the court if he won 1 chip in New York

How about multiple championships what would that monetarily


Equate to, towards the Melo brand and Knicks brand overall

No, winning doesn't magically increase someone's base NBA salary; not without a renegotiated contract on renegotiated terms. And even then, most NBA stars are being cheated out of their true net worth. Players are already being shortened out of their share of profits and now owners are using public pressure to further depreciate player salaries.

And no, endorsement deals don't negate that fact. I use to work two jobs. What you're suggesting is like having my primary employer, lower my wage and then telling me to make it up by working harder at my evening job. But if I am an essential employee and my company is more profitable than ever, why the hell should I accept that?

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11/21/2014  7:37 PM
F500ONE wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
Splat wrote:Nowitzki's salary concessions are amazing compared to other top players in the league.

Lakers are 3-9 and Mavs are 9-3

Lakers had cap space no one wanted to go there


Mavs had cap space and Monta showed up

Calderon showed up and O.J. Mayo showed up


And Parsons showed up and Jameer showed up

And Al Farouq showed up


The Lakers had to trade for player

Sign players off waiver wires and pay their


Own free agents above market value

It's humorous to me that you think Kobe is overpaid, then have the audacity to laud Chandler Parsons. who is making $16 million/yr as the 3rd best player on the Mavs. I also find it hilarious how you are choosing to revise history of portray Monta Ellis and OJ Mayo as coups in the Mavs favors. The reality is that both guys had burn bridges at their previous destinations and even became known as net negative players, Monta moreso than OJ. The reality is that those signings were last resorts by a floundering franchise who had missed out on their primary and secondary targets, Deron Williams and Dwight Howard. The difference between the Mavs and Lakers doesn't have anything to do with their stars; it has everything to do with Rick Carlisle being one of the best coaches of the modern error and Jim Buss being a moron.


Lakers can't even get malcontents to sign there

The only player even remotely in the vicinity of name rec


Is Swaggy P, face it the guy you're nut munching

Is going down in shameless fame, yeah he's wealthy


But a lot of players in this league are

Dirk and Duncan are relevant today on the court when it comes to winning


Kobe is only relevant in checks and balances

What malcontent were the Lakers trying to get and missed out on? Seems it took them all of a week after LeBron and Melo's decision to trade for Jeremy Lin, lock up Carlos Boozer and come to terms with re-threads from the year before, which put them over the cap. So I ask again, who were they pursuing that they missed out on?


I mentioned malcontents as a means to say

Those are the only players who were available to sign


They were interested in Deng-Parsons-Stephenson-Kyle Lowry

Whiffed on all of them, why


I already stated they went the route you rehashed because

They couldn't get done what a prized organization like them should get done


And no it took them a while to get things accomplished

The Melo dilemma took almost 2 and half weeks


Then the Bulls didn't get the Boozer situation resolved until

Gasol made up his mind, it took a while for them to shape their


Roster after listening to all the


HELL NOS

The Lakers were never once linked to Kyle Lowry or Lance Stephenson. They expressed passing interest in Deng and made a concerted push for Parsons but the franchise was reluctant to add any long-term salary, which is why they are the way they are. NONE of their contracts extend beyond 2016 and that is by design, not coincidence.

Again, you are literally making **** up. Free agency started July 1st and players could sign by July 10th. Aside from Lowry almost immediately re-signing with the Raptors, the league was basically in gridlock until LeBron made his decision on the 11th. Flash-forward just two days later, Jeremy Lin and his $15 million contract was acquired.

If the Lakers were really pursuing the guys you said, why take on Lin's contract and take on Boozer's $3 million cap hit? Between the guaranteed deals they already had in Kobe, Nash, Lin, Boozer and Randle's contract as well as cap holds for vacant roster spots, the Lakers were already committed to $58 million, just two days into free agency and so many "malcontents" unsigned/uncommitted. You honestly think they were looking to pursue Stephenson and the like with only $5 million left of cap space? Come on, be serious.

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