Their starting center is averaging a double/double

Along with anchoring a staunch defense playing under 30min/gm

Wonder if we didn't sell high enough on him

Oh and how we love TS% in these neck of the woods

Tyson's is currently at 73% by far the highest of his career

Is he worth another $10mil+/yr this summer

Knixkik wrote:But for how long will he sustain that play? And how long will he stay healthy? We used him in some of his best years and traded him when everyone knew he would only decline, it was just a matter of how long he could sustain this type of play (when healthy) until he did show a real decline. The mavs probably figure he can play this well until Nowitzki is done. We got 2 starters from a good team plus a couple of draft picks/prospects. Not sure how high we could have ever sold on him.

Forget it, now he's no longer a Knick, fans begin canonizing him- they no longer acknowledge the very flaws that led them to driving them out of town in the first place.

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Knixkik wrote:But for how long will he sustain that play? And how long will he stay healthy? We used him in some of his best years and traded him when everyone knew he would only decline, it was just a matter of how long he could sustain this type of play (when healthy) until he did show a real decline. The mavs probably figure he can play this well until Nowitzki is done. We got 2 starters from a good team plus a couple of draft picks/prospects. Not sure how high we could have ever sold on him.

Forget it, now he's no longer a Knick, fans begin canonizing him- they no longer acknowledge the very flaws that led them to driving them out of town in the first place.

You have to realize it's a 2 way street. This environment brings out the worst of most people. Actually, as long as Tyson keeps this up, my guess is non-Knicks fans will look at his lower production last year as being more due to a cancerous Knicks environment. Tyson has the individual and team accomplishments (and we have nothing) that will lead most people to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I completely agree that we bring out the worst in players- I look at the bulls with envy, they've established a hard working defensive culture that allows players to flourish. We haven't had that since JVG days- I really hope Phil can establish a good culture for us going forward.

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Knixkik wrote:But for how long will he sustain that play? And how long will he stay healthy? We used him in some of his best years and traded him when everyone knew he would only decline, it was just a matter of how long he could sustain this type of play (when healthy) until he did show a real decline. The mavs probably figure he can play this well until Nowitzki is done. We got 2 starters from a good team plus a couple of draft picks/prospects. Not sure how high we could have ever sold on him.

Forget it, now he's no longer a Knick, fans begin canonizing him- they no longer acknowledge the very flaws that led them to driving them out of town in the first place.

You have to realize it's a 2 way street. This environment brings out the worst of most people. Actually, as long as Tyson keeps this up, my guess is non-Knicks fans will look at his lower production last year as being more due to a cancerous Knicks environment. Tyson has the individual and team accomplishments (and we have nothing) that will lead most people to give him the benefit of the doubt.

What good is a leader when he can't be a leader in the absence of other leaders? No good at all.

babyKnicks wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Knixkik wrote:But for how long will he sustain that play? And how long will he stay healthy? We used him in some of his best years and traded him when everyone knew he would only decline, it was just a matter of how long he could sustain this type of play (when healthy) until he did show a real decline. The mavs probably figure he can play this well until Nowitzki is done. We got 2 starters from a good team plus a couple of draft picks/prospects. Not sure how high we could have ever sold on him.

Forget it, now he's no longer a Knick, fans begin canonizing him- they no longer acknowledge the very flaws that led them to driving them out of town in the first place.

You have to realize it's a 2 way street. This environment brings out the worst of most people. Actually, as long as Tyson keeps this up, my guess is non-Knicks fans will look at his lower production last year as being more due to a cancerous Knicks environment. Tyson has the individual and team accomplishments (and we have nothing) that will lead most people to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I completely agree that we bring out the worst in players- I look at the bulls with envy, they've established a hard working defensive culture that allows players to flourish. We haven't had that since JVG days- I really hope Phil can establish a good culture for us going forward.

The bulls won a title since jordan that I missed?

Bulls sucked for a long time, but once they got Thibs, they established a winning culture. It's not all about championships- their players and teams compete at a level of effort we haven't come close to matching. Taj Gibson, Joakim Noah, Jimmy Butler- hard nosed players who leave it all on the floor. Even when they bring in poor defenders, they tend to improve their defense. It's just like we used to have (allan Houston, LJ, Camby etc all upped their defense because of our culture)

Dagger wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Knixkik wrote:But for how long will he sustain that play? And how long will he stay healthy? We used him in some of his best years and traded him when everyone knew he would only decline, it was just a matter of how long he could sustain this type of play (when healthy) until he did show a real decline. The mavs probably figure he can play this well until Nowitzki is done. We got 2 starters from a good team plus a couple of draft picks/prospects. Not sure how high we could have ever sold on him.

Forget it, now he's no longer a Knick, fans begin canonizing him- they no longer acknowledge the very flaws that led them to driving them out of town in the first place.

You have to realize it's a 2 way street. This environment brings out the worst of most people. Actually, as long as Tyson keeps this up, my guess is non-Knicks fans will look at his lower production last year as being more due to a cancerous Knicks environment. Tyson has the individual and team accomplishments (and we have nothing) that will lead most people to give him the benefit of the doubt.

What good is a leader when he can't be a leader in the absence of other leaders? No good at all.

anrst wrote:he could win mvp for all i care. the man is roy hibbert's bit*h. for that, he is dead to me.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:It just proves how much he bagged it last year. As THJr said they were not trying and Chandler was #1 culprit. No worries. He will get hurt or get the flu...happens every year.

Bonn1997 wrote:

anrst wrote:he could win mvp for all i care. the man is roy hibbert's bit*h. for that, he is dead to me.

Good news then - we no longer have to worry about any Knicks having disappointing post-seasons

lol true