earthmansurfer wrote:Knicks star Carmelo Anthony’s sore knee takes another lump http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-insider-carmelo-sore-knee-takes-lump-article-1.2015791

They should look at a successful club like San Antonio / (maybe Bulls) and how they rest guys. Why kill Melo this year if we aren't going anyplace. We are setting ourselves up for failure next year.

TripleThreat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:That being said-I think it will not be wise to shoot him close to 40 every night right now.

If you want more help/reduced minutes in the NBA, you have to leave money on the table.

Duncan, Parker and Ginobili all took below market deals to stay together and have roster depth.

So did Dirk Nowitzski.

The Miami Big Three took a discount, but not a massive one. So when LBJ looked cooked towards the end playing heavy minutes, that was all on him. If the Big Three each took 15 million instead of close to 20, they could have gotten some real help at center and probably helped their bench.

What did Chris Rock say? You want eat the big piece of chicken, then you better put in the work like Daddy does.

Melo drove players who could help off the roster ( Lin and Chandler) and took nearly every dime he possibly could. The Knicks bent over backwards to give him nearly everything he wanted, and look how it turned out...

The first time Melo complains about heavy minutes and not having more help on the roster, I hope Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley walk into the locker room and beat him to a pulp.

fishmike wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:That being said-I think it will not be wise to shoot him close to 40 every night right now.

If you want more help/reduced minutes in the NBA, you have to leave money on the table.

Duncan, Parker and Ginobili all took below market deals to stay together and have roster depth.

So did Dirk Nowitzski.

The Miami Big Three took a discount, but not a massive one. So when LBJ looked cooked towards the end playing heavy minutes, that was all on him. If the Big Three each took 15 million instead of close to 20, they could have gotten some real help at center and probably helped their bench.

What did Chris Rock say? You want eat the big piece of chicken, then you better put in the work like Daddy does.

Melo drove players who could help off the roster ( Lin and Chandler) and took nearly every dime he possibly could. The Knicks bent over backwards to give him nearly everything he wanted, and look how it turned out...

The first time Melo complains about heavy minutes and not having more help on the roster, I hope Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley walk into the locker room and beat him to a pulp.

roll up your pants... the bullsh!t is getting deep

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Knicks star Carmelo Anthony’s sore knee takes another lump http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-insider-carmelo-sore-knee-takes-lump-article-1.2015791

They should look at a successful club like San Antonio / (maybe Bulls) and how they rest guys. Why kill Melo this year if we aren't going anyplace. We are setting ourselves up for failure next year.

Look at Dallas. Their starters are playing like 28 to 30 mpg. If you can't win games doing that, then you're not ready to compete anyway and you shouldn't be worried about W-L records.

How'd sitting out resting and then commenting on it work out for Rose?

When will people look around and realize that San Antonio and Dallas are not NYC? Popovich and Cuban are where they are for a reason, primarily because their brand of sheehit don't play here.

"Welcome to MSG, ladies and gentlemen, the world's most famous arena. Tonight you will be treated to watching maybe a few minutes of our marquis players, followed by a montage of meaningless scrimmage minutes because, as we all know, the NBA regular season doesn't count...your starting line up for your Westchester..errr New York Knicks...."

nixluva wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I'm not doctor but I don't think knee problems heal from game to game. Usually there is some kind of surgical procedure. Better to have the procedure now since we can benefit from the draft than in the off season and jeopardize next season.

Yeah i'd stay away from the medical stuff if I were you. How do you know it's something that will require surgery? Not all pain is due to a structural issue that needs to be corrected by surgery. It could be tendonitis, a bone bruise heck who knows. I'd like for him to take time off, but he has doctors advising him so it's up to Melo and the doctors.

Emphasis should be on preserving Melo's viability for competitive years. 30 mins a game seems about right, give or take some in close games. More important than number of minutes is the number of QUALITY minutes we get from him, particularly on the defensive end. Melo needs to adjust his mindset about how much energy to expend on D. Right now, he's one of the many matadors on the roster, and that shyte won't fly when we're playoff bound. It's also a terrible example for the team leader. That ish should have left when FluTyson got traded.

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Knicks star Carmelo Anthony’s sore knee takes another lump http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-insider-carmelo-sore-knee-takes-lump-article-1.2015791

They should look at a successful club like San Antonio / (maybe Bulls) and how they rest guys. Why kill Melo this year if we aren't going anyplace. We are setting ourselves up for failure next year.

Look at Dallas. Their starters are playing like 28 to 30 mpg. If you can't win games doing that, then you're not ready to compete anyway and you shouldn't be worried about W-L records.

How'd sitting out resting and then commenting on it work out for Rose?

When will people look around and realize that San Antonio and Dallas are not NYC? Popovich and Cuban are where they are for a reason, primarily because their brand of sheehit don't play here.

"Welcome to MSG, ladies and gentlemen, the world's most famous arena. Tonight you will be treated to watching maybe a few minutes of our marquis players, followed by a montage of meaningless scrimmage minutes because, as we all know, the NBA regular season doesn't count...your starting line up for your Westchester..errr New York Knicks...."

Your mixing fact with fiction, a bit of a red herring. First, Rose is a recently injured player, SEVERELY. He doesn't belong in the conversation with "healthy" players.
Not sure why you bring up Popovich and Cuban, as their teams are both successful. And calling their winning, sheehit, doesn't exactly make sense.

Lastly, is 30 minutes a night the same as your so called "few minutes"? I'm not sure of your argument as you seem to be taking something e.g. reduced minutes, and then throwing out an extreme e.g. "a few minutes". 30 minutes a night MAX, is plenty for a guy to play who is on a crappy team, who's knees hurt and they aren't going anywhere.

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Knicks star Carmelo Anthony’s sore knee takes another lump http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-insider-carmelo-sore-knee-takes-lump-article-1.2015791

They should look at a successful club like San Antonio / (maybe Bulls) and how they rest guys. Why kill Melo this year if we aren't going anyplace. We are setting ourselves up for failure next year.

Look at Dallas. Their starters are playing like 28 to 30 mpg. If you can't win games doing that, then you're not ready to compete anyway and you shouldn't be worried about W-L records.

How'd sitting out resting and then commenting on it work out for Rose?

When will people look around and realize that San Antonio and Dallas are not NYC? Popovich and Cuban are where they are for a reason, primarily because their brand of sheehit don't play here.

"Welcome to MSG, ladies and gentlemen, the world's most famous arena. Tonight you will be treated to watching maybe a few minutes of our marquis players, followed by a montage of meaningless scrimmage minutes because, as we all know, the NBA regular season doesn't count...your starting line up for your Westchester..errr New York Knicks...."

i'd rather be winning 6 titles