NardDogNation wrote:knickscity wrote:NardDogNation wrote:knickscity wrote:NardDogNation wrote:VCoug wrote:NardDogNation wrote:gunsnewing wrote:NardDogNation wrote:gunsnewing wrote:NardDogNation wrote:gunsnewing wrote:NardDogNation wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Splat wrote:Shump and Sam were the best Knicks tonight with some nice contributions from Crack Baby and Stat. Melo great first quarter, not good after that.
THJ good great offensively, really poor defensively
You can't complain about the contributions throughout the roster
Its just that one guy who's name escapes me. 4th game in a row where he's looked lost/lethartic
...the guy who never got the ball in the 4th?
he needs to play within the triangle and he will get good shots. He is tentative now because he knows he is hurting the team with his inability to play team ball for 48mins
There was no triangle for almost the entire 2nd half. As I said, the 4th in particular was dominated by Shumpert trying to impress old Georgia Tech fans, Tim Hardaway pounding the ball, then dishing with a few seconds left on the shot clock and JR doing kamikazee drives leading to mid-air passes. I could see you blaming Melo for his defense, which was putrid but even the Hawks announcers were astonished by how few TOUCHES (not even looks) Melo got in the 4th.
Melo went 8 for 20
big step up from 5 for 20
he should've got off 10 more shots tonight
Melo had the bulk of shots and points in the first half. Not sure how your comment negates that fact and the more obvious point that he barely touch/shot the ball when it mattered.
the way he was shooting and the off balanced shots he was taking we would've probably lost by greater than 7pts had he shot more imo
And you think it was better to have JR and Iman to take those shots? Because that is exactly what happened. Hell, even Amare took a 15ft baseline fadeaway that he never took when he was in his prime and could jump out the gym. I'm not saying that Melo doesn't have his faults but when are his teammates ever going to be held accountable?
I don't know why you're trashing Shumpert, or JR for that matter. Shump went 8-12 last night and JR even went 4-8. Shots/points aren't worth more because they come from Melo.
How well were they shooting in the 4th when the game mattered. Career wise, who would be the better candidate to win a game for a tea in the 4th.
Honestly going by career even melo has come up short if you're going by his Knicks career. For me, I'm old school...ride the hot hand. To think melo automatically gets that shot explains why the team stinks as it does.
Well we rode the "hot hand(s)", which resulted in a loss. So clearly that strategy doesn't work either. All I know is that Melo has outright won us games in the 4th, in the past. Shumpert can't make that claim and with exception to two buzzer beaters against the Suns and Bobcats/Hornets, neither has JR. We suck because we don't have legitimate talent on this team, not because of Melo.
Idk, 38% from the field does say he is part of the reason. We won when he shot over 50%. yet his "support" has consistently been the same.....they have all contributed well.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that last point. Because what I saw down the stretch were two near 5 second violations by JR Smith, followed by him saving a ball that would've been out on the Hawks ONLY to throw it out himself. What I saw was Tim Hardaway pounding the ball for 1/3 of the shot clock and then dish to some smuck with 3 seconds left to shoot. What I saw was Iman Shumpert shooting a brick that was a foot away from even clipping the rim. Those guys may have shot well but were bumbling idiots, which has been par for the course with them.
Yet those bumblers have contributed, and some well above their norm. Did you also notice melo has missed as much or more than those guys even attempt? Are you seriously stating that 38% from the player that takes the most shots by a wide margin is not a problem?
It's only so long you can blame the cast, the cast has done better than expected.....but Melo needs to do what IS expected.
