gunsnewing wrote:Amare " we gotta stick with the offense and not go away from it"

I'd wager he's talking about Melo since Melo is the offense

Here we go again with Amar'e and his

"Guys Aren't Buying In"

"Guys Have To Trust And Execute What The Coach Wants"

"We Gotta Stick With The Offense And Not Go Away From It"

"We Have To Share The Ball"

Yet this STATUE goes 1-on-1 100-200% of the time

F500ONE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Amare " we gotta stick with the offense and not go away from it"

I'd wager he's talking about Melo since Melo is the offense

Here we go again with Amar'e and his

"Guys Aren't Buying In"

"Guys Have To Trust And Execute What The Coach Wants"

"We Gotta Stick With The Offense And Not Go Away From It"

"We Have To Share The Ball"

Yet this STATUE goes 1-on-1 100-200% of the time

CrushAlot wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Amare " we gotta stick with the offense and not go away from it"

I'd wager he's talking about Melo since Melo is the offense

Here we go again with Amar'e and his

"Guys Aren't Buying In"

"Guys Have To Trust And Execute What The Coach Wants"

"We Gotta Stick With The Offense And Not Go Away From It"

"We Have To Share The Ball"

Yet this STATUE goes 1-on-1 100-200% of the time

I didn't watch much of the post game. He is talking again? Not good. Amare has no sense of self. Phil needs to explore the Philly deal. If he can get a youngster and or a pick he should pull the trigger sooner rather than later.

not sure if all those quotes were from tonight or last year
he did say "we gotta stick with the offense and not go away from it"

Splat wrote:Perception of Fish sure has done a 180 with many

Imitating their Hero

Rotation

F500ONE wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Amare " we gotta stick with the offense and not go away from it"

I'd wager he's talking about Melo since Melo is the offense

Here we go again with Amar'e and his

"Guys Aren't Buying In"

"Guys Have To Trust And Execute What The Coach Wants"

"We Gotta Stick With The Offense And Not Go Away From It"

"We Have To Share The Ball"

Yet this STATUE goes 1-on-1 100-200% of the time

I didn't watch much of the post game. He is talking again? Not good. Amare has no sense of self. Phil needs to explore the Philly deal. If he can get a youngster and or a pick he should pull the trigger sooner rather than later.

Crush no team is taking on $23mil

While giving up a pick

Not in case you're talking of us giving up a future 1st

CrushAlot wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Amare " we gotta stick with the offense and not go away from it"

I'd wager he's talking about Melo since Melo is the offense

Here we go again with Amar'e and his

"Guys Aren't Buying In"

"Guys Have To Trust And Execute What The Coach Wants"

"We Gotta Stick With The Offense And Not Go Away From It"

"We Have To Share The Ball"

Yet this STATUE goes 1-on-1 100-200% of the time

I didn't watch much of the post game. He is talking again? Not good. Amare has no sense of self. Phil needs to explore the Philly deal. If he can get a youngster and or a pick he should pull the trigger sooner rather than later.

Crush no team is taking on $23mil

While giving up a pick

Not in case you're talking of us giving up a future 1st

It saves Philly almost 20 mil. It is why they traded for Granger last year. They would want to do the deal at the deadline.

Please explain how

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Splat wrote:Perception of Fish sure has done a 180 with many

No issues with Fisher. This is a work in progress and the guy is a first year head coach. The triangle is almost a dysfunctional offense if you are down more than 5. It works great when you are leading. I think there will be a lot more growing pains with this team but I think Fish gets it and will be a great one when all is said and done.

Yeah, I can't worry about him either. He'll probably end up having a nice career coaching. This roster is possibly incapable of learning the triangle though. Not sure what kind of drama that indicates, but I think it is more than a question of giving them 30 games to learn it. If Melo doesn't have his head in the game and he is not fully committed, trying to run the triangle is going to lay an egg.

Only wrinkle I can see right now is waiting to see if Jose can help enough to get Melo in sync and cooperating. Outside of that, I'm still thinking under 30 wins this season. A high pick is good, but I hate to see the core player not buy in. It could become a problem.

that is a major problem. i don't want them to panic and abandon system basketball in favor of Meloball

CrushAlot wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Splat wrote:Perception of Fish sure has done a 180 with many

No issues with Fisher. This is a work in progress and the guy is a first year head coach. The triangle is almost a dysfunctional offense if you are down more than 5. It works great when you are leading. I think there will be a lot more growing pains with this team but I think Fish gets it and will be a great one when all is said and done.

Yeah, I can't worry about him either. He'll probably end up having a nice career coaching. This roster is possibly incapable of learning the triangle though. Not sure what kind of drama that indicates, but I think it is more than a question of giving them 30 games to learn it. If Melo doesn't have his head in the game and he is not fully committed, trying to run the triangle is going to lay an egg.

Only wrinkle I can see right now is waiting to see if Jose can help enough to get Melo in sync and cooperating. Outside of that, I'm still thinking under 30 wins this season. A high pick is good, but I hate to see the core player not buy in. It could become a problem.

Anyone else think Pierce puts Melo in a funk? Seems to be a really tough match up for him and Pierce's mouth seems to impact Melo's game.
On a side note, it doesn't seem to matter who Alan Anderson plays for he kills the Knicks.

Don't forget Melo waited for KG after a game to "talk". Those Celtics mindfuc'd him good. I've never had full confidence in Melo's mindset. I think he gets rattled. The whole superstar thing to me is very much about mindset. Melo doesn't have that. Sure, he loves the adrenalin of having the ball at the end of the game and all that, but that doesn't require any thoughtfulness.

I've mocked him for his pre-season superstar comment, but let's be real. It was a sign of serious insecurity. He'd just landed a whopper deal and he says that? He's not as confident as he should be. Why? Well, its simply really. If his shots are not falling, his game is just not diverse enough for him to impact anything at all. And he knows it in his heart, yet he doesn't do anything to change it. So he goes into a funk. Its kind of childish.

His confidence thus is subject to drop-offs and we're seeing him slumping. It's all mental. He did not come into this season prepared to change. It was lip service. I call him fake for a reason. I'm not just on some jihad. He says stuff that is not truly sincere just because he thinks that is what he should say, but it lacks conviction and follow through.

He's basically a simple man without much going on analytically upstairs. He doesn't have the mind to work with. He's a talented guy, but a profoundly ordinary human being in every other way.

It is going to be very difficult for him to change. I'd love it, but I think I've been pretty accurate in my assessment of this guy. He's selfish and if it takes embarrassing the crap out of him to make him change, then I think you do it. Bench him. Send a message. Otherwise, this is not going to turn out well.

Waiting on Melo to change of his own volition becomes a game of fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. We're in phase 2. Do Phil and Fish let Melo get away with this kind of play? If they care about the future of the franchise, they better lay down the law soon.

gunsnewing wrote:

Splat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Splat wrote:Perception of Fish sure has done a 180 with many

No issues with Fisher. This is a work in progress and the guy is a first year head coach. The triangle is almost a dysfunctional offense if you are down more than 5. It works great when you are leading. I think there will be a lot more growing pains with this team but I think Fish gets it and will be a great one when all is said and done.

Yeah, I can't worry about him either. He'll probably end up having a nice career coaching. This roster is possibly incapable of learning the triangle though. Not sure what kind of drama that indicates, but I think it is more than a question of giving them 30 games to learn it. If Melo doesn't have his head in the game and he is not fully committed, trying to run the triangle is going to lay an egg.

Only wrinkle I can see right now is waiting to see if Jose can help enough to get Melo in sync and cooperating. Outside of that, I'm still thinking under 30 wins this season. A high pick is good, but I hate to see the core player not buy in. It could become a problem.

that is a major problem. i don't want them to panic and abandon system basketball in favor of Meloball

Struggling is OK if the effort to do things with intelligence is evident. We could lose a boatload of games and still hold our head up high if we show signs of progress.

This year I think you have to play your future players. That means Melo, Early, THJ and probably Acy and maybe Wear having a future role too. Jose is under contract too. He plays. Get some continuity into next season. De-emphasize expiring players and accept the losses as long as you feature players who are going to be built with and get them to learn and execute better.

Melo has to buy into the future by starting to play a smarter form of team ball now, regardless of the W-L record this year. If not, this will turn into another black hole situation for the franchise.

We're simply incapable of defending based on roster weakness, so that will rack up many losses for us this year. That's just the situation.

The games we do win will come from playing well offensively and beating weak teams or catching ones on an off night. Because we cannot defend. All the more reason to learn the offense and implement it this season.