Splat wrote:The score now is a more accurate reflection of the difference between these teams. Wiz are a way better team. This is why you need to take advantage of better teams on off nights. Can't just show up like this.

sad but true. it is what it is

just gotta hope we make better roster decisions going forward

The Larkin thing is very disheartning

nixluva wrote:It's crazy how quickly this team can go from moving n grooving like they were at one point to totally losing the flow of the offense. They were doing it right for a while and then totally faltered. Melo had a detrimental effect on this game. He has to learn that he sets the tone for his team. If he ignores the system it breaks down.

Team has been like this for years now. Hot and cold. Under both Woodson and MDA. Melo is the one common denominator since he is the core of the team. As goes Melo, so goes the Knicks.

This is why you need to influence Melo by coaching the rest of the team into playing the game right, because Melo is rarely the guy who gets a lightbulb over his head and starts to do all the right things to inspire his teammates.

Melo is not a leader. He's a shooter. And all he really knows how to do when things aren't going right is to keep chucking. That usually lowers his efficiency unless he is piping hot.

But since it is going to be really hard for Fish to rally everyone to inspire Melo, he has a real challenge on his hands, because if Melo reverts and can't snap out of it the team is not good enough without him to compensate.

Splat wrote:

nixluva wrote:It's crazy how quickly this team can go from moving n grooving like they were at one point to totally losing the flow of the offense. They were doing it right for a while and then totally faltered. Melo had a detrimental effect on this game. He has to learn that he sets the tone for his team. If he ignores the system it breaks down.

Team has been like this for years now. Hot and cold. Under both Woodson and MDA. Melo is the one common denominator since he is the core of the team. As goes Melo, so goes the Knicks.

This is why you need to influence Melo by coaching the rest of the team into playing the game right, because Melo is rarely the guy who gets a lightbulb over his head and starts to do all the right things to inspire his teammates.

Melo is not a leader. He's a shooter. And all he really knows how to do when things aren't going right is to keep chucking. That usually lowers his efficiency unless he is piping hot.

But since it is going to be really hard for Fish to rally everyone to inspire Melo, he has a real challenge on his hands, because if Melo reverts and can't snap out of it the team is not good enough without him to compensate.

That would have laid the culture change down with concrete understanding.

GustavBahler wrote:We had very little offense in the paint, let the Wiz play our guards closer. Melo and Stat got selfish at times, very disappointing.
This was the most decisive I have seen Shumpert in meaningful minutes as a pro. Didn't always make the right decision, but he was very aggressive and didn't hesitate to take it to the rim.

Acy coming back will help us in the paint, as well as Bargs who plays well at center. This team was doing a great job of powering through mistakes to win. They need to get back to that and not fall back on bad habits, like quitting.

Agree with everything. Even the Bargnani bit. We actually could've used him in the middle. Amare was worthless defensively and on the board. And we didn't go to him enough inside to offset.

Then again Wizards big were too much for Amare. BArgani 7'1 would've helped

Splat wrote:I wonder what happened to Wear. He should have earned some brownie points for defending Lebron well.

yup would've been worth throwing him in there in place of Melo when the game was still in reach in the 4th

gunsnewing wrote:

Splat wrote:I wonder what happened to Wear. He should have earned some brownie points for defending Lebron well.

yup would've been worth throwing him in there in place of Melo when the game was still in reach in the 4th

Shumpert had a similar issue in this game- over over-aggressive in getting off his shots.

Is it possible that Fisher gave them a green light when he saw that other things were just not working?

thejerk wrote:I'm am by no means an expert but did anyone see much of the triangle tonight. I saw prigs try and run it a few plays and Jr not knowing where to go on one of them. Looks like they resorted to that iso bs and just running high screens and settling for jumpers, what was up tonight? or am I missing something here about this new offense.

Wizards made it hard to get amare going inside. With that said the knicks should've tried to get the ball inside to the big more. They really missed Acy. He has a good grasp on where to be at all times