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yellowboy90
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10/27/2014  3:55 PM
Outlaw, a future 2nd and the rights to exchange a future 2nd to Philly for

Arnett Moultrie.

I remember Moultrie at Miss ST.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybasketball/update/24771109/report-knicks-trade-travis-outlaw-to-76ers-for-arnett-moultrie
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10/27/2014  3:57 PM
We did it to save salary. 3 million vs. 1 million. The cost savings were the pick and swap. We can always buy another 2nd. Good deal for both clubs.
Moultrie is going to get cut (or someone else). Wear is on the team.
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10/27/2014  3:59 PM
Cute!

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10/27/2014  4:03 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Outlaw, a future 2nd and the rights to exchange a future 2nd to Philly for

Arnett Moultrie.

I remember Moultrie at Miss ST.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybasketball/update/24771109/report-knicks-trade-travis-outlaw-to-76ers-for-arnett-moultrie

Thanks for the update! I hated Outlaw so I'm glad he's gone. Remember the money saved is increased due to the luxury tax savings
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10/27/2014  4:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2014  4:16 PM
smackeddog wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Outlaw, a future 2nd and the rights to exchange a future 2nd to Philly for

Arnett Moultrie.

I remember Moultrie at Miss ST.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybasketball/update/24771109/report-knicks-trade-travis-outlaw-to-76ers-for-arnett-moultrie

Thanks for the update! I hated Outlaw so I'm glad he's gone. Remember the money saved is increased due to the luxury tax savings

At first glance I thought this trade was for the UK league

As I couldn't pull up original link


Started to delve deeper by googling and discovered this



Really Phil, Okay commence to getting on him folks

He traded away 2 picks, Remember that's a no no


I suggested if he dumps picks he dumps larger salary

And trade picks much further down the road


Instead he attaches hard to come by second rounders

To an absolute stiff of a bum in outlaw to save a $1-2mil on Taxes


Not even making a dent on the dire financial situation
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10/27/2014  4:16 PM
I'm surprised Moultrie didn't work out in Philly. He was a high motor guy at Miss St. Scored well and rebounded too.
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10/27/2014  4:17 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I'm surprised Moultrie didn't work out in Philly. He was a high motor guy at Miss St. Scored well and rebounded too.

Yeah hes a guy who actually played pretty well his 1st year and did not play much last year. He's got some skills and hes tall--but I don't think we got him to keep him.

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10/27/2014  4:18 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I'm surprised Moultrie didn't work out in Philly. He was a high motor guy at Miss St. Scored well and rebounded too.

Yeah hes a guy who actually played pretty well his 1st year and did not play much last year. He's got some skills and hes tall--but I don't think we got him to keep him.

Nope the roster is overfloweth unless something else is brewing
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10/27/2014  4:20 PM
We just need TripleThreat to clear all of this up

I'm sure he has a valid explanation for the GOLD


Phil just gave away for nothing
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10/27/2014  4:22 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I'm surprised Moultrie didn't work out in Philly. He was a high motor guy at Miss St. Scored well and rebounded too.

Yeah hes a guy who actually played pretty well his 1st year and did not play much last year. He's got some skills and hes tall--but I don't think we got him to keep him.

We've already cut him according to twitter
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10/27/2014  4:25 PM
F500ONE wrote:We just need TripleThreat to clear all of this up

I'm sure he has a valid explanation for the GOLD


Phil just gave away for nothing

Was he talking about giving away future first rounders or second? I do believe there is a difference in the two.
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10/27/2014  4:27 PM
smackeddog wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I'm surprised Moultrie didn't work out in Philly. He was a high motor guy at Miss St. Scored well and rebounded too.

Yeah hes a guy who actually played pretty well his 1st year and did not play much last year. He's got some skills and hes tall--but I don't think we got him to keep him.

We've already cut him according to twitter

I would have liked to have kept him but they see potential in Wear. I think if Moultrie gets himself in shape again and commits to bball he could turn it around.
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10/27/2014  4:28 PM
smackeddog wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I'm surprised Moultrie didn't work out in Philly. He was a high motor guy at Miss St. Scored well and rebounded too.

Yeah hes a guy who actually played pretty well his 1st year and did not play much last year. He's got some skills and hes tall--but I don't think we got him to keep him.

We've already cut him according to twitter

Yep and I guess the Owner is communicating

To the President "he cares about his money"


There goes the "it's not your money it's Dolans

Our owner is worth billions, what's the big deal"


Also with trading pick(s) I said get a serviceable player back

Not cut him before the ink dries


So far we lifted the protection on 2nd rounder back to Sac

Traded essentially 2 2nd rounders to Philly


Travis Outlaw proved he had near 3 2nd round pick trade value?

Am I missing something here
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10/27/2014  4:31 PM
Chris Herring @HerringWSJ about 19 minutes ago

Knicks gave Philly a 2019 second-round pick and the right to swap a 2018 second-round pick to take Outlaw. Knicks then waived Moultrie.
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yellowboy90 wrote:
Chris Herring @HerringWSJ about 19 minutes ago

Knicks gave Philly a 2019 second-round pick and the right to swap a 2018 second-round pick to take Outlaw. Knicks then waived Moultrie.

They just gave away a 2nd round pick without getting anything back.

What am I missing here?

If the outcome is Wear gets his roster spot, couldn't that have been achieved simply by waiving Outlaw?

So the only value of the trade is saving $3M in exchange for a 2nd round pick?

I guess Phil must think they can easily buy 2nd round picks whenever they need them. Why hold on to them then? Huh?

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10/27/2014  4:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2014  4:41 PM
F500ONE wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I'm surprised Moultrie didn't work out in Philly. He was a high motor guy at Miss St. Scored well and rebounded too.

Yeah hes a guy who actually played pretty well his 1st year and did not play much last year. He's got some skills and hes tall--but I don't think we got him to keep him.

We've already cut him according to twitter

Yep and I guess the Owner is communicating

To the President "he cares about his money"


There goes the "it's not your money it's Dolans

Our owner is worth billions, what's the big deal"


Also with trading pick(s) I said get a serviceable player back

Not cut him before the ink dries


So far we lifted the protection on 2nd rounder back to Sac

Traded essentially 2 2nd rounders to Philly


Travis Outlaw proved he had near 3 2nd round pick trade value?

Am I missing something here

how high do you expect that 2nd round pick to be 5 yrs from now,when hopefully the knicks will be coming off there 2nd championship run, and the cap will be close to 90 mill.

Also i just took a brief look at the last 4 drafts, there is about 8 players total taking in the 2nd round that are still in the NBA today.

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10/27/2014  4:49 PM
This team is already littered with 2nd round picks and undrafted players. You want to add more 2nd round picks?

When and if we are ever good then we can worry about getting value out of 2nd round picks.

We need talent through lottery and/or free agent/trades
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10/27/2014  5:08 PM
Splat wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Chris Herring @HerringWSJ about 19 minutes ago

Knicks gave Philly a 2019 second-round pick and the right to swap a 2018 second-round pick to take Outlaw. Knicks then waived Moultrie.

They just gave away a 2nd round pick without getting anything back.

What am I missing here?

If the outcome is Wear gets his roster spot, couldn't that have been achieved simply by waiving Outlaw?

So the only value of the trade is saving $3M in exchange for a 2nd round pick?

I guess Phil must think they can easily buy 2nd round picks whenever they need them. Why hold on to them then? Huh?

They probably save around 6-7M when including the tax.
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10/27/2014  5:15 PM
Knicks get a trade exception too right?
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10/27/2014  5:22 PM
luxury tax is irrelevant to Dolan but I'd definitely be satisfied with a trade exception
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