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Move Wear into Acy's spot. Move Shumpert back to unit two and Smith to starting SG
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BRIGGS
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10/21/2014  1:43 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/21/2014  1:45 AM
C Dalembart
F Wear
F Carmelo
G Smith
G Calderon

This makes Wear the intangibles player. He's a better skill player than Acy and I think we need that. Someone has to hit that open shot. Wear is also a better passer ballhandler and can rebound just as well.

2nd unit all vets
C Amare
F Smith
F Shumpert
G Hardaway
G Prigs


This balances the roster--the chemistry with JR and Hardaway is not balanced in the 2nd unit. Shumpert's play dating back almost two years does not warrant starting and JR gives us that second gun in the 1st unit.

Larkin Early Acy out.

Will re-visit Bargs when he wants to play.


I don't think we have a terrible team--we just havent found the right court "zen".

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10/21/2014  4:11 AM
Has Wear even made the team? And why exactly would JR start when he has no clue how to run the triangle?
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10/21/2014  8:23 AM
No Amare now? Come onnnn mannnn!!
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10/21/2014  10:37 AM
Dalembert and Cole need to be the centers.... there's no getting around that. Amare can't control the middle with Acy or anyone else next to him.

Even though I liked what I saw from Amare against the bucks I still don't feel comfortable with him starting. Jason smith didn't look as good as he did the last 2 games. What's up with Bargs? I really can't call it.

Wear needs to make the team though. No d league. He needs to be on the roster and he needs to keep working hard and wait his turn. He's in the cusp of being a rotation player right now.

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10/21/2014  10:44 AM
Almost got it right Briggs

Slide Hardaway to 2 guard instead of Smith


Smith has proven he can come off the bench

No need to mess with what he does


I do not want Smith and Melo

Playing heavy minutes together


Too much a risk of the offense

Not being ran with both in

Yes Wear and Hardaway should start

For simple fact offense will have to be


Our strength and they give the team

The best chance to run the system the way


It's designed to be run
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10/21/2014  10:46 AM
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10/21/2014  11:21 AM
Amare needs to start. He helps Melo with scoring. Wear seriously?!?!?!?!
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10/21/2014  11:27 AM
Agree Chewy - Amare needs to start. It's about using the players to their strengths - Amare's defensive struggles are minimized with him at C. He can block shots (weak side) and is athletic. Keeping him in the middle reduces his area to cover for the most part. He also offers low post scoring which helps Melo and the shooters. Yes, it is key that he improves defensively. I like Acy next to him at PF - we just need some time to give them chemistry. Calderon was out most of the game which is significant. I'd go with the same starting 5 for a few. Dalembert or Cole would be excellent backups.
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10/21/2014  11:28 AM
chewy wrote:Amare needs to start. He helps Melo with scoring. Wear seriously?!?!?!?!

What about defense?

Amare, Melo & Calderon is about as bad a defensive lineup as you can get

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Shumpert
Calderon
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10/21/2014  11:47 AM
chewy wrote:Amare needs to start. He helps Melo with scoring. Wear seriously?!?!?!?!

I like Amare but I dont see it happening. The reason why I put Wear in at PF was balance. If we say for example had Melo and Hardaway in the starting unit--you have two primary scorers and three role players who can also score a bit. That would leave two scorers--Amare and JR on the 2nd unit.

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10/21/2014  11:48 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
chewy wrote:Amare needs to start. He helps Melo with scoring. Wear seriously?!?!?!?!

What about defense?

Amare, Melo & Calderon is about as bad a defensive lineup as you can get

Dalembert
ACY
Melo
Shumpert
Calderon


You leave two primary scorers off the team. Shumpert is a 3-10 machine and Acy cant shoot.

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10/21/2014  11:51 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/21/2014  11:52 AM
I really like Wear and don't want to lose him to another team. But there is no way he's going to start

Right now im just trying to figure out whats better for his development. On the Knicks sitting at the end of the bench and never playing OR playing big minutes in Westchester to start the year

I obviously would be open to starting him someday. He really fits the system
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10/21/2014  3:05 PM
BRIGGS wrote:C Dalembart
F Wear
F Carmelo
G Smith
G Calderon

This makes Wear the intangibles player. He's a better skill player than Acy and I think we need that. Someone has to hit that open shot. Wear is also a better passer ballhandler and can rebound just as well.

2nd unit all vets
C Amare
F Smith
F Shumpert
G Hardaway
G Prigs


This balances the roster--the chemistry with JR and Hardaway is not balanced in the 2nd unit. Shumpert's play dating back almost two years does not warrant starting and JR gives us that second gun in the 1st unit.

Larkin Early Acy out.

Will re-visit Bargs when he wants to play.


I don't think we have a terrible team--we just havent found the right court "zen".

I say:

C- Dalembert
PF- Amar'e
SF- Melo
SG- Shump
PG- Calderon

Nice mix of offence and defense

2nd Unit:
Smith
Acy
JR
Hardaway
Larkin (we're not going far this season, so it's about time we committed ourselves to developing a young player)
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10/21/2014  3:06 PM
gunsnewing wrote:I really like Wear and don't want to lose him to another team. But there is no way he's going to start

Right now im just trying to figure out whats better for his development. On the Knicks sitting at the end of the bench and never playing OR playing big minutes in Westchester to start the year

I obviously would be open to starting him someday. He really fits the system

I think Westchester until the trade deadline, then bring him onto the team once we've done some deals.
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10/22/2014  12:49 PM
i know we have like 6 threads on starters, but i'm gonna go again...

PG: Calderone
SG: Shump
SF: Melo
PF: Amare
C: Dalembert

First big off the bench: Jason Smith
First small off the bench: THJr

One key was the mention of THJr backing up the 3, so that gives room for JR Smith to join the party.
Also Acy is another 3/4 plug, so depends on the direction he takes.

So i have a 9 man playoff rotation with no back up PG, which makes me think that would be Shump or THjr.

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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