wow, I'm 100% with briggs for once

Ditto

Walker is a bad fit. We don't need him and his thirty footers. We don't need his turnovers. We can do much better in the offseason. Ship Kurt out and get a better power forward, ie, Rasheed, or Dampier, or even someone like Troy Murphy, but I doubt if he would bring Murphy in for various reasons. Maybe Etan Thomas down in DC. He seemed to like playing in the Garden when he had his best games against the Knicks.

Walker would be a GREAT fit with with MARBURY. Stephon 's best move is the pick & roll so u need someone who can do it with him and after rasheed what 4 would play the PICK & ROLL better, not many. Ya he's not a great defender but abdur-rahim is a worse defender & i think that sometime with aguire would do walker a ton of good. & again 4 those who say we should trade 4 someone else, who r the knicks gonna trade 4 that is better than walker. the only way 4 us to get dampier is with the mid-level i really dought a sign & trade can be worked out 4 him, & just forget bout the knicks gettin sheed cause they won't. I think the purposed walker deal is much more likely to go down than the abdur-rahim deal cause the knicks will probably get out bid there. This deal we have stuff the mavs would take. Also just imagine a knicks team with a starting line-up of marbury, houston, TT, walker, & dampier or Blount for our mid-level. That would be nice.

ya, i do see ur point and undrstand what u r sayin. I wouldn't be mad at all if isiah went the patient route and kept this team 2gether but i don't think a walker deal would be bad either. if we kept this team and added throught the draft & with the mid-level id do think this team could win 44-48 mabe even 50 games depending on how good sweetney gets. good post djsunyc.

Posted by BigSm00th:

Walker is talented but I don't want a guy who is 6'9" playing out on the perimeter, shooting 3s, and bringing the ball up. That's why they got Marbury. I'd take Abdur-Rahim over him b/c at least he has a semblance of a post game. Walker, in my mind, isn't a very good option.

And Briggs and the others who harp about the ending contracts, it hurts a team like Dallas if they lose Walker for nothing. An ending contract on a team with $70 million still committed in 2008 means you just lose a player you gave up a fair amount to get, so you have to move him, b/c you can't replace a player of Walker's caliber with the MLE. So a guy like Walker on a team like Dallas needs to be moved or they just lose him for nothing.

I agree with everything here. That's like the Knicks trading Houston for ending contracts.....that would not help at all unless we do the same with TT ,Marbury and Penny.

That's why I gave up on Dallas. I was all for trading for Walker or Jaimison but Cuban is no fool. Walker makes no sense especially since we have Marbury...and Jaimison is a proven scorer but if you wanna talk soft......I would rather get Shareef if that's the case.

I think all signs point to the Knicks trading for Shareef. Portland is looking at getting way below the cap after next year already and if they get Cezary Trybanski, Mutombo and Othella they really would be below the cap...practically at zero but still be a playoff calibur team.

With Shareef, TT, Marbury, a Healthy Houston and maybe Dampier....the Knicks would be fine.

Sweetney would still be around with Penny, Frank, DeMarr and whoever the Knicks pick up in the draft.

All of that is Plan A for me but plans never work out the way you say it.

[Edited by - enyspree on 06/03/2004 12:26:25]

Bonn1997 Walker's days of chucking up too many 3s ended when he left Boston and came to Dallas in the best shape of his life. I get the impression a lot of you Walker critics didn't watch one Mavs game this year.

Walker still dominates the ball too much, takes stupid shots, and misses very easy shots (layups, putbacks, etc). That being said, he's still a better player than KT and you have to ask, do you take the chance that the team defense will improve and take the better player, or do you keep KT because you know the team D won't improve and they'll get absolutely lit up.

It's an interesting question. I'd rather have Abdur-Rahim over Antoine, because he's more of a pure 4, and if the trade didn't work out the chances of dealing him at the deadline since he is an expiring contract is probable. I think it's worth the risk even though I don't particularly like either player.

Well they fell apart b/c they got nothing in return because LaFrentz was hurt the whole year.

He's great to have on your team if you don't have a PG, but when you have Marbury who dominates the ball, and rightfully so, he's a true PG who averages 9 assists a game, its a recipe for disaster.

When I watch Toine he'd often wind up just dribbling non-stop around the 3 point line and then either a) turning it over, b) forcing a bad shot after attempting to break his defender down, or c) launching a 3. Sometimes b and c went in, but it's never really pretty or effective.

Try this trade if Steph does not work out. Pick up Rafer Alston as replacement. Everybody makes out

NY trades: KT & Steph
NY gets: Antoine Walker + Juwan Howard + Josh Howard

Dallas trades: Josh Howard + Danny Forston + Antoine Walker
Dallas gets: CWebb + Pat Garrity

Sactown trades: CWebb+ Brad Miller
Sactown gets: T-MAC + Danny Forston + Kurt Thomas

Magic trades: T-MAC + Pat Garrity + Juwan Howard
Magic gets: Steph & Brad Miller

Haha yeah, I'm with Bonn here. Marbury isn't the problem, the rest of the Knicks are.

i would'nt take walker or juwan howard if you gave them to us. steph stays.

So let me get this straight, you trade Marbury and Thomas for Walker, Howard and Josh Howard? Are you Scott Layden?????