nixluva wrote:It's really gonna be interesting to watch this play out this season. It's been so predictable around here and now we're in new territory. The old rules don't apply. Fish is liable to do anything. The last preseason games will tell us a bit more.

Yep, I never thought Fisher would have the guts to do it, but it's really looking like there is a chance either Amar'e or Bargs is going to be benched.

fishmike wrote:

Splat wrote:Sounds like the lineup I predicted is going to be the starting 5 if this is true.

Dalembert
Calderon
Shump
Melo
Acy

http://nypost.com/2014/10/15/gritty-acy-has-good-chance-to-be-knicks-starting-power-forward

The article cites many of the basic reasons speculated on here by myself and others.

Acy's a classic workhorse PF fit next to Melo. Acy knows his role and fills it.

Acy + Shump = high energy tone for 1st unit D. With Dalembert and more D from Melo, its a competent defensive starting 5 that is enough to compensate for Calderon's inability to contain penetrators.

Bargs is muffing it so Acy has stepped in. I think that is good luck for the team to not to have to start Bargs. Fish is definitely using this as a way to excuse himself from starting Bargs. You can see the political usage of the media already being deployed. They made some puffy comments earlier about how great the expiring vets will be, but they always have their out clauses as the coach.

the great thing about this article however is it seems that Fisher is focused on the best team, not catering to personalities.

Agree 100%

There is NO Scoring from this bunch if MELO's scoring is off at start of games.
That is an issue , Melo cant be sole scorer starter Teams will key in to that &
snuff #7 thus opposition has greatest chance to get off to hot starts if offensive minded.

knickscity wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:<<<
Dalembert
Calderon
Shump
Melo
Acy
>>...

There is NO Scoring from this bunch if MELO's scoring is off at start of games.
That is an issue , Melo cant be sole scorer starter Teams will key in to that &
snuff #7 thus opposition has greatest chance to get off to hot starts if offensive minded.

Seems like a lineup like that may prevent the opposition from scoring alot as well. A lineup such as that emphasizes defense with timely shooting. All those players can put a ball through the hoop.

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:<<<
Dalembert
Calderon
Shump
Melo
Acy
>>...

There is NO Scoring from this bunch if MELO's scoring is off at start of games.
That is an issue , Melo cant be sole scorer starter Teams will key in to that &
snuff #7 thus opposition has greatest chance to get off to hot starts if offensive minded.

Seems like a lineup like that may prevent the opposition from scoring alot as well. A lineup such as that emphasizes defense with timely shooting. All those players can put a ball through the hoop.

We can't win. If we have a lineup that is all scoring then people complain we aren't focused on D. Fish puts a defensive lineup out there and some complain that it won't score enough. I don't see that much of a problem with at least taking a look in preseason at a defensive unit to start. It won't be hard to simply plug in Bargs or Jason to pump up the scoring ability a bit. We'll see over the next few games if this unit can score enough or if we need to make a change.

Like Ive stated all those cats can put the ball through the hoop...the lineup just has an EMPHASIS on defense, not necessarily a defensive lineup.

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:<<<
Dalembert
Calderon
Shump
Melo
Acy
>>...

There is NO Scoring from this bunch if MELO's scoring is off at start of games.
That is an issue , Melo cant be sole scorer starter Teams will key in to that &
snuff #7 thus opposition has greatest chance to get off to hot starts if offensive minded.

Seems like a lineup like that may prevent the opposition from scoring alot as well. A lineup such as that emphasizes defense with timely shooting. All those players can put a ball through the hoop.

We can't win. If we have a lineup that is all scoring then people complain we aren't focused on D. Fish puts a defensive lineup out there and some complain that it won't score enough. I don't see that much of a problem with at least taking a look in preseason at a defensive unit to start. It won't be hard to simply plug in Bargs or Jason to pump up the scoring ability a bit. We'll see over the next few games if this unit can score enough or if we need to make a change.

All here and Nix poster make some very very good points here

Look I'm no Kiljoy when it comes to Defense, sure I'd like to have stoppers I complained on another post "Where's D' coming from"?

But lets not get ahead of ourselves if Acy wins job fine, this is only PRESEASON !
this bunch has not been together long enough defending and being looked like as STOPPERs to win gamesout of gate in pro NBA games when they count. Keep in mind as well THIS AINT the Ewing bunch also offensively challenge but had known notable starters like Mase, Oak and
Starks whom would and could stop while getting off offensively since that Ew 90's Knicks was together awhile & more talented than this
Knick starter bunch 2014 cited here. IT aint even close!

Also I am glad Andrea isn't starting.
My only gripes if you're relying on MELO to be the man with this bunch offensively,
you're asking for trouble when trouble comes in pro game season start vs. the good teams, OR BETTER teams of NBA

They will force the Acy's, Dalemberts and Shumperts to become scoring mentality
and we all know THAT Aint their game ESPECIALLY Mr Shumpert.

If your current NBA Team needs to start Acy, Dalember with PG Calderone for reasons stated in this post (excellent post)
then perhaps Shumpert need to come off bench early & Mr. JR Smith need to start instead. I Cant believe I said it!
I never look at JR Smith as a long term NBA starter option but if you're going to need a complement player offensively
with MELO Anthony why not JR ? At least the inconsisten JR Smith is capable of being 2-way player at times when needed
especially offensively whether shooting OR going to basket to draw fouls.

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