According to J.R. Smith, it might not be until January.

J.R. Smith admitted the Knicks will probably need until January to nail down the triangle offense.

"It's going to take a few months," Smith said after the Knicks' 20-point loss to Boston in their preseason debut. "Over the course of the year, understanding where everybody is going to be, [understanding that] 'some like it here, [some] like it like that.' It's going to take awhile."

Smith's view mirrors that of coach Derek Fisher and president Phil Jackson, who both said during training camp that it will take awhile for the Knicks to get comfortable in the triangle.

But Smith is the first Knick to put a semidefinitive timetable on just how long the process may take.

The Knicks didn't look good in their first night running the offense, shooting just 41 percent from the floor and turning the ball over 28 times.

"I thought we went out there and started thinking too much instead of just playing," said Smith, who had seven points in his triangle debut. "We have to put a little more trust in our front-office people. ... They set this team around the type of players we are, and we have to trust our instincts a little more and just play. We all know how to get into our offense and just play the right way. It's just a matter of when we get into it if they take something away, don't get too anxious or too nervous and turn the ball over."

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11669405/jr-smith-says-new-york-knicks-nail-triangle-offense-january

Hey Nix he's predicting January

When the team will feel comfortable playing in it

Wouldn't this suggest a possible slow start

He says the curve is at least 2-3mos

Did you see this slow start learning curve

Is Smith speaking for himself or the rest of the Wiz Kids

So before we factor scheduling, proper rotations,

Maybe even possible injuries and whatnot do you think

Anaylytics and Sambermetricians factored

2-3 maybe even 4mos learning curve

We know how you feel about not being able to

Predict the unknown early on

You can't win 50gms with this kind of slow curve

So that our draft picks and free agents don't come into a circus atmosphere. Instead they become part of an organization that goes about things the right way like the Spurs etc

If we have Amare at C Carmelo at PF J R Smith at SF Hardaway @ SG and Calderon at PG--we could play very fast and score a lot of points.

CrushAlot wrote:Where did he say that? Read the article and didn't see the thread quote. Begley did say that Smith is echoing what Fisher is saying about the adjustment timeline for the new offense. Did Smith coin the term trickonometry or is that yours?

Season officially starts in November

Technically starts in October

Smith says...

"It's going to take a few months," Smith said after the Knicks' 20-point loss to Boston in their preseason debut

November 1mos

Dec 2mos

January 3mos

Not sure Smith could count out that far

All there in black and white for you Crush

CrushAlot wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Where did he say that? Read the article and didn't see the thread quote. Begley did say that Smith is echoing what Fisher is saying about the adjustment timeline for the new offense. Did Smith coin the term trickonometry or is that yours?

Season officially starts in November

Technically starts in October

Smith says...

"It's going to take a few months," Smith said after the Knicks' 20-point loss to Boston in their preseason debut

November 1mos

Dec 2mos

January 3mos

Not sure Smith could count out that far

All there in black and white for you Crush

Trickonometry is your term then.

Yeah a play on Trigonometry

More than Rudimentary mathematical basketball system

Appears pretty sophisticated to run it

Calderon spoke to this also

knicks1248 wrote:What i saw yesterday was our players trying to run the triangle, getting confuse, and resorting back to ISO's.
They were folding like a cheap tents after the initial play was defended.

I just hope we don't live and die by the triangle.

Why? It not like we are missing anything. It takes time to build chemistry. Not like the team had great chemistry and not its gone.

Live and die because it works when it happens!!!!!

Losing is learning.

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:What i saw yesterday was our players trying to run the triangle, getting confuse, and resorting back to ISO's.
They were folding like a cheap tents after the initial play was defended.

I just hope we don't live and die by the triangle.

Why? It not like we are missing anything. It takes time to build chemistry. Not like the team had great chemistry and not its gone.

Live and die because it works when it happens!!!!!

Losing is learning.

You still have to find away to win games, Jr was absolutely right when he said they were thinking to much. When you turn the ball over 28 times in a game, you have major, major chemistry issues.

Over passing and being too unselfish, thinking too hard, guys not cutting right because they don't know where they should be.

I remember Artest saying it took him damn near a season to figure it out when he played with the lakers.

Right now Thjr might end up taking that starting spot. Best players should start. If it's too hard for him, learn from the bench bitch

Dagger wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:What i saw yesterday was our players trying to run the triangle, getting confuse, and resorting back to ISO's.
They were folding like a cheap tents after the initial play was defended.

I just hope we don't live and die by the triangle.

Why? It not like we are missing anything. It takes time to build chemistry. Not like the team had great chemistry and not its gone.

Live and die because it works when it happens!!!!!

Losing is learning.

I wouldn't say losing is learning. More like losing while learning is not really losing. The Knicks last year showed us it's very easy to lose and learn absolutely nothing, repeating the same mistakes every game.

markvmc wrote:Great thread title. Downhill from there.

New Poll - which Somberite is actually going to be the first

to create the " 'Official' Blow it Up Now" thread?

What's the over/under on each one?

If you had to pick one person on the team

You would obviously give tons of credibility

to JR Smith's ability to tell time.