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BRIGGS
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5/30/2004  6:06 PM
I still dont believe in the end that a player will take significantly less, but getting Dampier without giving up anything will make the Knicks a true player in the east as long as they solidify 2G and back up 3 and 1. Dampier is still 6-11 275 and in the east there arent many players who can match him. He wont last a full 6 years, but since they got marbury who will be 28 during the season next year--they need to put this together and move up the playoff ladder now. Its a 2-3 year process if you assemble the right pieces, but I dont condier this year 1 because we were not .500 and we didnt win 1 playoff game. Getting to the playoffs under .500 is not accomplishment. They need to solidify the players they will ultimatley run with for a few years by the end of next year and stay pat.
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5/30/2004  6:52 PM
Damps is the best free agent big man by far. Most of the big men FAs being compared to him average between 50% and 75% of the rebounds he averages and are less of a defensive presence

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 05/30/2004 18:53:46]
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5/30/2004  9:34 PM
There is nothing about Dampier that excites me....
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5/30/2004  9:54 PM
Posted by tkf:

There is nothing about Dampier that excites me....

yeah, i usually find guys who lead the league in offensive rebounding with around 5 a game to be very boring
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Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by tkf:

There is nothing about Dampier that excites me....

yeah, i usually find guys who lead the league in offensive rebounding with around 5 a game to be very boring
please, dampier is lazy, he has consistently underachieved, and he has bad hands, bad footwork, and no offnesive moves. I don't care how many offensive boards he gets, guys like Fortson have led the league in that category before, so what is the big deal? Dampier is a BUM!!!
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5/31/2004  12:42 AM
A thin, more athletic, 6'11" version of Fortson would be a decent player to add on any team

And please, you can't average 12 RPG if you have bad feet and bad hands. You have to have awesome feet, hands, and legs to do that and be an extremely hard worker.
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5/31/2004  12:49 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

A thin, more athletic, 6'11" version of Fortson would be a decent player to add on any team

And please, you can't average 12 RPG if you have bad feet and bad hands. You have to have awesome feet, hands, and legs to do that and be an extremely hard worker.

That is not true, are you telling me Fortson has awesome feet, hands and legs? That is BS.. If Dampier has all that then why doesn't he average more points? why isn't he dominating his position with all these "awesome" attributes?
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5/31/2004  12:54 AM
He is dominating on defense and rebounding while being a very good role player on offense. He'd be the best C in the east. You don't have to score 30 PPG to be dominant.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 05/31/2004 00:55:22]
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5/31/2004  1:06 AM
we need Dampier and we need Rahim/Webber
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5/31/2004  1:21 AM
Dampier would not be better than jermain Oneal, Ben Wallace, and I question if he would be better than mark Blount.... The only thing Dampier Dominates is the ability to underachieve and dissapear... I watched quite a few Warriors games this year, this guy is nothing and I mean nothing to write home about...
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5/31/2004  2:18 AM
Dampier is much better than blount in every way. He doesn't need to be better than wallace or o'neal. All he neads to do is play like he did last year and he'll make us a top team in the east. I think if u give the knicks dampier and an healthy houston & tt they would definetly be better than the stupid nets.
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5/31/2004  4:39 AM
Dampier would not be better than jermain Oneal, Ben Wallace
Why are you comparing a C to two PFs? Dampier wouldn't be better than Marbury either, but let's just compare players at the same positions
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5/31/2004  6:45 AM
dampier did play hard just because this was a contract year.

yes dampier has underachieved, but what's his motivation (other than he's supposed to be a pro - which doesnt mean much without the winning, look at t-mac) - come on, he's on the warriors.

maybe if he was on the knicks and was motivated, he'd be good. that's a maybe.

i think blount is better than damp, having watched both. blount is younger and faster, less strength and size in the post, but not many guys have damp's frame.
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5/31/2004  9:39 AM
I'm hoping Dampier developed into a good NBA center
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5/31/2004  10:50 AM
doesnt make sense. if dampier actually did come to the knicks he would be taking a big pay cut, so that throws the i played hard to get a contract out the window. getting dampier for nothing in the east is HUGE. again im certainly not confusing dampier with shaq, but in the east where the big men are few and far between dampier should be able to put up 16 points 13 rebounds 2.5 blocks and clog the lane and we dont have to give up any assets to get him. You can still go out and use KT and the ending contracts to improve the team. Its certainly not the cure all, but its a building block in a process and if things kicked right maybe we could get into the second round next year building upwards.
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5/31/2004  11:09 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Dampier would not be better than jermain Oneal, Ben Wallace
Why are you comparing a C to two PFs? Dampier wouldn't be better than Marbury either, but let's just compare players at the same positions
silly post!! Oneal and Wallace usually play center on their teams. Marbury doesn't!!!

Try again...

DAmpier is a bum!!
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5/31/2004  2:21 PM
A bum who is better then 2/3 of the centers in the NBA. Man, you don't know that much about bball do you? You watched this guy right? So what exactly did you expected to see? A Shaq like dominance? Are you out of your mind? They guy gets 12 12 and 2+ blocks, what more do you want? That's about as good as it gets at C this side of Shaq. Both Wallace and O'Neal play PF. Foster and Ben Wallace play center. On the pistons Sheed never ever plays center. Okur, even Cambell play at the 5 ahead of him. Hell, they put the big nasty at the 5 before Wallace, as they usually slide him down to the 3. Learn somethign about bball before posting garbage. Like BRIGGS said, gettin Dampier for nothing is a steal that makes us one of the best ind East right away.
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5/31/2004  2:29 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by tkf:

There is nothing about Dampier that excites me....

yeah, i usually find guys who lead the league in offensive rebounding with around 5 a game to be very boring
please, dampier is lazy, he has consistently underachieved, and he has bad hands, bad footwork, and no offnesive moves. I don't care how many offensive boards he gets, guys like Fortson have led the league in that category before, so what is the big deal? Dampier is a BUM!!!









Are you freakin joking me? Dampier would definitely be the best Center if he came to the East. This crap about Dampier being an underachiever is BS. Look at his career numbers and minutes, last year he did not play well just because it was his contract year but he played well because this was his first year since his 2nd year in the NBA where he played more than 30 minutes a game. Only in two of his seasons has he played more than 30 minutes a game because most of his career has been spent splitting minutes with Foyle. Had he played more minutes he would definitely put up better numbers so I don't want to hear anymore of this crap about Dampier being an underachiever and only having a good year just because it was his contract year. If Dampier comes to the Knicks, the Knicks become a force to reckon with in the East.
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5/31/2004  2:40 PM
Get your facts straight TKF. Those two play primarily PF. Rasheed does the openning tip for the Pistons and primarily guards centers with Ben only getting a few minutes at center. The Pacers use Foster or Croshere at center with O'Neal only occasionally getting a few minutes there.

Damps would still be the best center in the east, although he isn't as good as the two power forwards that you listed.
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5/31/2004  2:58 PM
hes not better than big Z and my bet is eddie curry will be the best C this year in the east. but dampier would easily be top 4
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