Posted by BRIGGS:

since IT peddled him around last year and the bets he could get was malik rose and a 30th pick in the draft--what we'll he be worth now that he signed a more lucrative contract and cant play all summer?

I'm sure he could have gotten more than that. I think Isiah made it clear that he was listening to offers involving Kurt, but he wasn't desperately searching to trade him. I don't think Kurt will be out all summer, either. The max they said was 3 months. It's probably a range of like 1.5 to 3 months. Even if it's 3 months, that gives him 2 months to shake off his rust before the season starts.

Also, Kurt's barely making more than the mle ($5.8 mil). That's a very reasonable salary. The contract does not make him harder to trade.

i think that if isiah couldve gotten more than malik rose and a pick kt wouldve been gone at the trade deadline last year.

KT has value, just not as much as what some people think. i mean kmart makes him look stupid on a yearly basis.

read my previous post. The Malik for kurt was part of a bigger trade to get Weed that fell through

That's the first time I heard that and it seems pretty bizarre; I don't see why a Kurt for Malik deal would be involved in trying to get Rasheed

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 05/30/2004 00:07:32]

Since KT is being traded in a package with an expiring contract and backup PG, obviously it would be stupid to compare KT's worth vs. Abdur-Rahim's.

?? It's just a rumor. You make it sound like it's definite

also remember guys, Kurt has a 20% trade kicker that goes into effect if he is dealt, so it's not just a mid level deal that he's signed to...the team trading for him will have to accept a significant increase in his salary if they want him.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/story/199233p-172022c.html

Kurt looks to trade futures

By FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Kurt Thomas has an impressive financial portfolio and enough tailored suits to at least look the part of a Wall Street broker as he did yesterday, standing inside the Merrill Lynch World Headquarters in lower Manhattan to honor the winners of the Investment Challenge that bears his name.
Thomas' nickname on the basketball court may be Crazy Eyes, but he is smart enough to look after his money.

In March, the Knicks and Thomas agreed to a four-year contract extension worth approximately $30 million. The forward, who is scheduled to have surgery on his right pinkie today in New York, could have waited for a more lucrative deal in July but he jumped at the chance for financial security.

His decision not to test the free-agent market has increased speculation that the Knicks will trade Thomas this summer, a move that Lenny Wilkens seemed to endorse when the head coach said that the Knicks' main need for next season was to add "a physical (power forward) who blocks shots and give you a real low-post presence."

"I wasn't aware of it," Thomas said of Wilkens' comments. "It doesn't bother me. I know I can play with my back to the basket. I believe I led the team in blocked shots or was second (he was second to Dikembe Mutombo, 123-80). I think I led the team in rebounding (he did at 8.30 per game), so I think my numbers speak for themselves. And I play with injuries. It doesn't bother me."

But Thomas was also providing subtle hints that he would welcome a change of scenery. His shooting hand will be in a cast for six weeks, which could scare off potential suitors. Not so, according to Thomas, whose 20% trade bonus probably eliminates most teams from pursuing him.

"I think everybody saw I could play with the injury," he said. "I don't think that will be a factor or anything."

Thomas was nearly traded to San Antonio before the February deadline and has replaced Latrell Sprewell and Charlie Ward as the Knick most often rumored to be going elsewhere. There has already been talk about a deal with Portland for Shareef Abdur-Rahim.

Thomas is the second-longest tenured Knick behind Allan Houston and established himself as a strong presence in the community. His fourth annual Investment Challenge includes 1,600 students from 13 New York City public high schools. Ten winners received summer internships with Merrill Lynch and Thomas honored five students with $2,000 scholarships.

When he addressed the individual and team winners yesterday, Thomas said his goal is to create similar programs in Dallas and Houston. Of course, those are two cities where he wouldn't mind being traded to.

"I'm from Texas," he said, smiling. "So I would like to see the program in Texas as much as possible."

Originally published on June 3, 2004

KT makes me mad cuz he thinks he's better than he is. Yeah he lead the team in rebounding and 2nd in block shots....

He still gets killed by Kenyon Martin and Jermaine O'neal and Rahseed. Besides getting killed he doesn't make either of them play defense on him.


Now if the Knicks already had Shareef or someone like him ahead of KT on the depth chart then KT's game is valuable....but only in spurts.

If KT is your main big man you are in trouble.

I say trade him to Texas. Houston or Dallas or San Antoino. Make sure the Knicks get a draft pick and someone that fits our system. Houston and San Antonio probably would send off their pick for KT and stick a Hidayet Turkoglu, Bostjan Nachbar, or someone young and tradeable.

Knicks Got Sweetney right? F it.

The ideal thing would be to trade KT in a packedge for Shareef. KT is soooo good in the pick and role with Marbury? Shareef can knock down the 15 footer and put it on the floor, post up and see the floor well enough to make a play after he gets that pass from Marbury. Then we'll see Marbury get to the basket more often because they just won't double team Marbury all the time after the pick.



Right now the Knicks are right there to becoming a problem to teams like Indiana and the Nets and Detroit and even Miami!

The one thing the Knicks have that none of those teams have is Stephon. If Isiah can upgrade the talent around him when the game is on the line I want Marbury to have the ball. With other guys out there that demand defensive attention that leaves Marbury open to do his thing.....I can just see how the Garden would explode after Shareef or Timmy or Allan puts goes on a tear and then while the defense is trying to prevent them from Getting the ball Marbury eats their heart!

Posted by TMS:

trade him to Houston for Kelvin Cato & a future draft pick (throw in Trybanski as cap filler to even out the dollars)

interesting, I would do this. Rockets would probably do this cause Kurt is a good spot up shooter to match Yoa's post play. Also a tough defender. Cato would give the Knicks a weak side defender blocker. I like.

would you rather have Rahim or would you rather have Cato & a future 1st round pick? i guess i would take Rahim, but remember it's going to cost alot more to get him than just Kurt Thomas.