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8/2/2014  6:39 PM
Saw this on the other site, wasn't posted here yet I don't believe so enjoy! This was before Fish became head coach but after Phil became president of the Knicks.

http://www.derekfisher6.com/2014/04/19/great-franchise/

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It’s somewhat rare for an organization to have even one person with that kind of gift, but when I was in Los Angeles, we had two.

The other was, of course, Phil Jackson. I have to say: I’m so happy for him to have another opportunity to possibly impact an organization as an executive in the way he’s impacted the Bulls and Lakers as a coach, and the way he impacted the Knicks as a player. I’m ecstatic for him and I know he’s going to do well. He wouldn’t have taken the job if he didn’t believe he could do it.

He’s been a part of so many successful championship cultures, and he brings with him the concept of what culture really means. He knows how to at least attempt to implement it in a way that can lead to success.

He has a very unique way of reaching people. Oftentimes, it’s not about convincing or forcing someone to do something, but influencing them in a way where ultimately, the decision to go beyond where they’ve gone before, to be more successful than they’ve been in the past becomes their own. It starts with these very basic ideals and concepts that revolve around unity and brotherhood, and a collective energy that is required to do something special, to build something special.

His reputation has always preceded him. It was the same way when he came to Los Angeles. We’d heard all these different stories about how he was, and how he liked to do things. But I knew right away that he was going have the type of impact that he had on us.

What I found out was that it had very little to do with his reputation. He’s not fixed and locked into these ideas of who he is, and the perception of who he is. Beyond being a coach, or now an executive, he’s just a very well-rounded individual and person. So the relationship that you ultimately have with Phil is original and organic. It’s built from scratch, not reputations and pre-conceived notions. And he has enough life experience to be able to adapt and connect with people from all different walks of life and backgrounds.

The main thing I learned from Phil is the ability to really remain in the moment, and always being able to conduct yourself with a level of composure and poise that’s unshakable. That’s a learned trait for a lot of people.

I’ve always been a guy who prides myself on working extremely hard. When I met Phil, I was trying to outwork everyone. I’d spend more hours in the gym and put more time into it than anybody else. But doing that often can lead to additional stress, pressure and expectations. Phil really helped me embrace focusing on the here and now, and not getting too high and too low from game to game, day to day, week to week.

He taught me how to find a place that I felt comfortable, where I operated at my best and learn how to stay there. That’s something that I use to this day. It’s allowed me to have whatever you measure as success for me at this point in my career, at the age of 39. I’m still able to go out and play the game at a very effective level because of a lot of what he taught me.

But with Phil, it always went beyond basketball. He taught us skills that helped us in our lives beyond the court, too. The focus of everything that he talked about with us was this idea that we are part of the fabric of life and society and the world. He encouraged us not to live in this bubble of existence that we seem to sometimes keep ourselves in as members of the NBA.

Those things that we spent time talking about and working on have tremendously impacted me, and I’m sure several other players, off the court and in our personal lives — just in terms of thinking of ourselves as part of a larger picture, and not being so self-centered and so focused on just ourselves.

Those life lessons then could be translated back to the basketball court,. They were the type of things that helped his basketball teams understand that, even though you are individual players and as good as you think you are with as much ego as you may have, you’re still a part of something larger. I think that really helped his teams be able to work together better than any other teams could.

That’s something that’s missed when people try to reduce his success to the use of “The Triangle.” To do so is very shortsighted. People fail to understand just how challenging it is from a basketball perspective to get players to play together, regardless of the system. So whether it’s The Triangle, or the Princeton Offense, or any system that people are familiar with, a coach’s ability to get players to actually utilize it in an effective way is where the trick lies.

That’s where the magic happens.

He’s never gotten enough credit for that part of it. It’s always been because of Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, or because of Shaq and Kobe, or because of The Triangle. But just being a basketball coach and understanding how to use timeouts; understanding time and score in situations; understanding substitution patterns and when to take players out; when to leave a certain group of guys in; these are all things that coaches manage, and it’s a skill.

This will be different, obviously, being upstairs versus on the court and having a direct impact on each game. But I think overall, however the wins and losses shake themselves out as the Knicks move forward, he’s going have an extremely positive influence on the culture there.

People know who Phil Jackson is. They know what he’s done, and there’s value in that.


But just being a basketball coach and understanding how to use timeouts; understanding time and score in situations; understanding substitution patterns and when to take players out; when to leave a certain group of guys in; these are all things that coaches manage, and it’s a skill.

These decisions are now yours to make Fish. I wonder if he would take after Phil and avoid calling timeouts forcing the team to play out of runs or give young players mins in critical situations.

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8/2/2014  6:59 PM
WOW! That was an amazing read. I'm really impressed with Fish so far. I think the combo of Phil and Fish is going to be a huge aspect of what success we have from here on. Sure you need good and great players, but beyond that I love the idea of there being a deeper level of implementation of Basketball and team concepts. We've had talent and seen that talent not play up to it's potential much less exceed that potential for a change. IMO the only way you get there is from great leadership. It starts at the top and for a change we have a good core leadership at the top of this team. It's better than the alternative, which we've been suffering thru for years. It can't guarantee a title but it sets the tone for a successful franchise.
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8/2/2014  7:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/2/2014  7:16 PM
unity and brotherhood, and a collective energy that is required to do something special, to build something special.

bratstvo i jedinstvo, the motto of the former yugoslavia, a state so far ahead of its time that it could not possible survive

Zen, Yugoslavia, the fat Buddha and Phil Jackson

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8/2/2014  10:34 PM
Wow. That was great. Thanks for posting it.
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8/2/2014  10:37 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Wow. That was great. Thanks for posting it.

not a problem, brosef; it's always a pleasure to infuse the forum with this brand of cultural enrichment

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8/3/2014  12:20 PM
Hopefully it will also have an impact on Dolan...when all is said and done, he's the one who MOST needs to change.
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8/4/2014  7:44 PM
I think This had an impact on melo more than the $, or maybe just as important. I'm almost certain that Melo (if he buys in) will win MVP, and Fisher will be coach of the yr.
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8/4/2014  9:37 PM
After reading this it remains ever more bizarre how Phil went about negotiating Fish and Melo's deals.

Brothers don't bleed brothers dry


I'm going to roll with Phil telling Fish to put his rings back in his pockets.

As this wouldn't be an organic way to reach a brother[Melo] in need

Why did he waive Odom only 1 mo after signing his contract.

I hope to see so much more from Phil

No question I feel he has operated this way most of his career but New York can change people.

May he have the strength to endure and overcome, leading us where we need to go

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8/4/2014  9:56 PM
F500ONE wrote:After reading this it remains ever more bizarre how Phil went about negotiating Fish and Melo's deals.

Brothers don't bleed brothers dry


I'm going to roll with Phil telling Fish to put his rings back in his pockets.

As this wouldn't be an organic way to reach a brother[Melo] in need

Why did he waive Odom only 1 mo after signing his contract.

I hope to see so much more from Phil

No question I feel he has operated this way most of his career but New York can change people.

May he have the strength to endure and overcome, leading us where we need to go


Lamar was signed for 3 months. Phil said at the time that Lamar was unable To uphold the standards to return as an nba player. He also said the Knicks needed the roster spot to sign Cole. The only complaint one could have about the Lamar waiving was that he was a non guaranteed deal and could have been used in a trade.
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8/5/2014  12:01 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
F500ONE wrote:After reading this it remains ever more bizarre how Phil went about negotiating Fish and Melo's deals.

Brothers don't bleed brothers dry


I'm going to roll with Phil telling Fish to put his rings back in his pockets.

As this wouldn't be an organic way to reach a brother[Melo] in need

Why did he waive Odom only 1 mo after signing his contract.

I hope to see so much more from Phil

No question I feel he has operated this way most of his career but New York can change people.

May he have the strength to endure and overcome, leading us where we need to go


Lamar was signed for 3 months. Phil said at the time that Lamar was unable To uphold the standards to return as an nba player. He also said the Knicks needed the roster spot to sign Cole. The only complaint one could have about the Lamar waiving was that he was a non guaranteed deal and could have been used in a trade.

I tip my hat in respect to you Crush for even answering this post. I can't for the life of me understand the level of doubt some on this forum express regarding Phil. To nitpick about Odom or the contracts of the Coach number one and the teams star player number two... it strains belief that anyone could really make a big stink about those things. What Fish makes... WHO CARES!!! What Melo makes... Pretty much got what a player at his stage is supposed to get per the rules of the league. Melo took a bit less but he was allowed to make the max contract that the CBA said he was permitted to get from his current team. There was literally nothing controversial about Melo's contract except that some wanted him to take much less. Never mind that it wasn't really going to make that much of a difference in the end if he did. Sure some can con on and try to site all the amazing players out there that are taking less than the MLE, but let's be honest here, the chances of that player being the difference between a title team or not are slim.

You would think they'd pay more attention to the many positive changes. The open dialog with the press and fans. The trade and draft picks which have shown some promise already. The new young coach who has some very nice qualities as a leader. The new culture and the Triangle offense which will improve the teamwork and Ball and player motion. Phil made a point to talk to all the players and let them know he wanted them to come to camp in shape. I basically see a team and franchise that has a new and happy attitude. They're all pumped to play for Phil and Fish. That's good news IMO.

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8/5/2014  4:49 PM
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
F500ONE wrote:After reading this it remains ever more bizarre how Phil went about negotiating Fish and Melo's deals.

Brothers don't bleed brothers dry


I'm going to roll with Phil telling Fish to put his rings back in his pockets.

As this wouldn't be an organic way to reach a brother[Melo] in need

Why did he waive Odom only 1 mo after signing his contract.

I hope to see so much more from Phil

No question I feel he has operated this way most of his career but New York can change people.

May he have the strength to endure and overcome, leading us where we need to go


Lamar was signed for 3 months. Phil said at the time that Lamar was unable To uphold the standards to return as an nba player. He also said the Knicks needed the roster spot to sign Cole. The only complaint one could have about the Lamar waiving was that he was a non guaranteed deal and could have been used in a trade.

I tip my hat in respect to you Crush for even answering this post. I can't for the life of me understand the level of doubt some on this forum express regarding Phil. To nitpick about Odom or the contracts of the Coach number one and the teams star player number two... it strains belief that anyone could really make a big stink about those things. What Fish makes... WHO CARES!!! What Melo makes... Pretty much got what a player at his stage is supposed to get per the rules of the league. Melo took a bit less but he was allowed to make the max contract that the CBA said he was permitted to get from his current team. There was literally nothing controversial about Melo's contract except that some wanted him to take much less. Never mind that it wasn't really going to make that much of a difference in the end if he did. Sure some can con on and try to site all the amazing players out there that are taking less than the MLE, but let's be honest here, the chances of that player being the difference between a title team or not are slim.

You would think they'd pay more attention to the many positive changes. The open dialog with the press and fans. The trade and draft picks which have shown some promise already. The new young coach who has some very nice qualities as a leader. The new culture and the Triangle offense which will improve the teamwork and Ball and player motion. Phil made a point to talk to all the players and let them know he wanted them to come to camp in shape. I basically see a team and franchise that has a new and happy attitude. They're all pumped to play for Phil and Fish. That's good news IMO.

words are words

deeds are deeds

money is money

but money is closer to deeds than words.

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8/5/2014  5:11 PM
I believe Lamar made $9000 for his time as a Knick. Knicks got back the opportunity to have a guy that could be a trade asset with his non guaranteed deal or possible a very good role player if he could overcome his demons. Not something to spend a lot of time worrying about or analyzing in my opinion.
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