If you think scoring isn't a pressing matter then why cry about getting another star?

Someone explain por favor

knicks1248 wrote:Who said were looking for stars, That was walsh and the media's plan. Having cap space gives you options..

Throughout this board guys say we don't need scoring. If we don't and we have options.....

options to do what exactly? Everyone likes to complain but nobody can pin point any player we should get or can get. Nobody wants to sign anybody and nobody wants to trade if it adds salary no matter how good....

What are we supposed to do?

-We don't need scoring
-no trades
-save cap
-get Draft picks
-get rebounder and defenders

When and how do we start to win games?

All these demands and nobody has a plan....Gasol and Durant? If not them then what we just float looking for a savior?

Both Gasol brothers fit the bill, and so would a guy like David Lee (remember him), if he could actually play a lick of D.

Look at what Harper did for the Bulls, after being a star earlier in his career he became a great complimentary player and a defender. You want players like Grant, Horry, John Salley, Laimbeer, Michael Cooper, Scott Wedman, and the list goes on.

Some of you older guys would also remember Bobby Jones on Philly, and what about good old Phil "Action" Jackson, or Jerry Lucas?

Don't think you would consider any of the above retired players "scorers" (Harper, when younger), but all of them were on at least one championship team, and contributed in multiple ways to those teams.

Phil will want to put out a balanced team on the floor, and if we do pick up a "scorer" it is not going to be a one dimensional player who needs X number of touches/game to get into a shooting rhythm and can't fit into a system offense.

Hopefully he finds the right guy(s).

So far Phil has taken a multifaceted approach. He replenished the youth which was very important. It seems like he's going to be cap conscious and try to preserve our picks as much as possible.

So far Phil has locked in Melo and Jose til 2017. Prigs is here til 2016 and JR has his option for 2016. THJ and Shane are team options for 2016. Pretty much everything else will be up to Phil and that leaves a lot of roster spots to fill. Phil views the Triangle offense as part of his defense. He's explained that the floor is more balanced in the Triangle and that allows his teams to get back on D. Also because the Triangle should lead to more efficient offense that helps the D as well. Still he's gonna be wanting 2 way Team players for sure.

nixluva wrote:Most NBA stars are scorers. They pay the big bucks to the BIG scorers in this league. What you want of course is to get a player who can also defend well. Now to get past the hypothetical, who exactly can this team get? No doubt Marc Gasol is at the top of the list of FA's. He fits the bill of a good player who is a scorer and good defender. To be honest it's hard to get another team's star. I don't know that Phil only has a plan that involves us doing that. It's not practical. That is how you end up with what happened to Walsh. What if you don't get the stars you're targeting? What's the plan B?

So far Phil has taken a multifaceted approach. He replenished the youth which was very important. It seems like he's going to be cap conscious and try to preserve our picks as much as possible.

So far Phil has locked in Melo and Jose til 2017. Prigs is here til 2016 and JR has his option for 2016. THJ and Shane are team options for 2016. Pretty much everything else will be up to Phil and that leaves a lot of roster spots to fill. Phil views the Triangle offense as part of his defense. He's explained that the floor is more balanced in the Triangle and that allows his teams to get back on D. Also because the Triangle should lead to more efficient offense that helps the D as well. Still he's gonna be wanting 2 way Team players for sure.

Who are 2-way players on current roster?
I cannot name one...
The youth is unknown maybes and the rest of the crew are known for offense or defense only.
As strange as it sounds Melo is the closest thing we have to 2-way player with all his defensive issues.

BRIGGS wrote:

arkrud wrote:

nixluva wrote:Most NBA stars are scorers. They pay the big bucks to the BIG scorers in this league. What you want of course is to get a player who can also defend well. Now to get past the hypothetical, who exactly can this team get? No doubt Marc Gasol is at the top of the list of FA's. He fits the bill of a good player who is a scorer and good defender. To be honest it's hard to get another team's star. I don't know that Phil only has a plan that involves us doing that. It's not practical. That is how you end up with what happened to Walsh. What if you don't get the stars you're targeting? What's the plan B?

So far Phil has taken a multifaceted approach. He replenished the youth which was very important. It seems like he's going to be cap conscious and try to preserve our picks as much as possible.

So far Phil has locked in Melo and Jose til 2017. Prigs is here til 2016 and JR has his option for 2016. THJ and Shane are team options for 2016. Pretty much everything else will be up to Phil and that leaves a lot of roster spots to fill. Phil views the Triangle offense as part of his defense. He's explained that the floor is more balanced in the Triangle and that allows his teams to get back on D. Also because the Triangle should lead to more efficient offense that helps the D as well. Still he's gonna be wanting 2 way Team players for sure.

Who are 2-way players on current roster?
I cannot name one...
The youth is unknown maybes and the rest of the crew are known for offense or defense only.
As strange as it sounds Melo is the closest thing we have to 2-way player with all his defensive issues.

Other than Tim Duncan--who is 2 way star on SA?

Mills, Parker, Tiago,Green, Leonard, Manu...
Don't get me wrong, I am not talking defensive or offensive specialists, but players who can contribute and adequate on both sides of the ball and don't need to be covered by other players.

But there are some guys who have two way talent, they just dont apply it at a consistent level, and sometimes become a liability on on end or the other.

Melo has two way talent, but he takes plays off on defense and at times is lazy, and if a call is missed...he aint getting back on defense. he also has conditioning issues, which affects his game late in games as evident the past two seasons.

JR does as well, but isnt consistent on either side of the ball.

There's others but no one else is KNOWN for it.