Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Vmart wrote:It's basically the same team that won 54 games. So yes I could see this team win 50 games, its just that the leadership will have to come from someone other than JKidd. I think Fisher and Calderon can provide that and having Phil is huge for team Psyche.

It's much closer to the 37 win team. The only thing that's changed is that we replaced the PG with a less bad one - still a PG who gets outrpoduced by his opponent though.

classic Bonn... Calderon is more eff% than is opponents, so lets focus on production. Oh wait.. off to a Melo thread, lets forget about production and focus on eff%

But yea... Calderon is much less bad than Felton. Good stuff

Classic zero logic on your part. Anyway, you gonna state your win prediction or just mock other people's comments all day?

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Yet Calderon who is mr. eff%, never TOs over the ball, one of the best shooting %s in the league... well your knock is he gets outproduced. So your talking out both sides of your mouth. There is no mockery.

Ive been pretty outspoken about my expectations for the season and my reasons, and have repeatedly stated they will be +45 wins. I believe Vegas has 47.5 which I think it spot on, so my prediction would be 47-35. They are much closer to the 54 win team than last year. But you didnt watch... so I could see why from looking at the #s why you would think minimal improvement is possible.

How about you? how many wins do *YOU* predict?

fishmike wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Vmart wrote:It's basically the same team that won 54 games. So yes I could see this team win 50 games, its just that the leadership will have to come from someone other than JKidd. I think Fisher and Calderon can provide that and having Phil is huge for team Psyche.

It's much closer to the 37 win team. The only thing that's changed is that we replaced the PG with a less bad one - still a PG who gets outrpoduced by his opponent though.

classic Bonn... Calderon is more eff% than is opponents, so lets focus on production. Oh wait.. off to a Melo thread, lets forget about production and focus on eff%

But yea... Calderon is much less bad than Felton. Good stuff

Classic zero logic on your part. Anyway, you gonna state your win prediction or just mock other people's comments all day?

what mockery? Im sorry... true or false your #1 arguement is Melo is not eff%

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Yet Calderon who is mr. eff%, never TOs over the ball, one of the best shooting %s in the league... well your knock is he gets outproduced. So your talking out both sides of your mouth. There is no mockery.

Ive been pretty outspoken about my expectations for the season and my reasons, and have repeatedly stated they will be +45 wins. I believe Vegas has 47.5 which I think it spot on, so my prediction would be 47-35. They are much closer to the 54 win team than last year. But you didnt watch... so I could see why from looking at the #s why you would think minimal improvement is possible.

How about you? how many wins do *YOU* predict?

"How about you? how many wins do *YOU* predict?"
40. See post above. I also told you about 1 week ago that I thought this was a slightly below .500 team.

F500ONE wrote:Well things are still very brand new but

Power Rankings

CBS
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/powerrankings

NBA
http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/

Bleacher
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2139064-nba-power-rankings-post-2014-nba-free-agent-frenzy-edition/page/11

All have us at around 21-22. Would like to see record breakdown which may come later in the summer

F500ONE wrote:Well things are still very brand new but

Power Rankings

CBS
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/powerrankings

NBA
http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/

Bleacher
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2139064-nba-power-rankings-post-2014-nba-free-agent-frenzy-edition/page/11

All have us at around 21-22. Would like to see record breakdown which may come later in the summer

Why have CBS ranked the heat at number 8?! Madness! A declining Wade, No Lebron, an ageing Birman, no Ray Allen, no Shane Battier- how the heck is Bosh going to carry that team? Dang had no impact on the Cavs either. I wouldn't be surprised if they missed the playoffs.

As for our ranking- I don't care. We stunk last year in every way, and if you stink you deserve the ridicule in the offseason and low expectations the next season. Hopefully we have a bounce back season, but we have to earn it.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

F500ONE wrote:Well things are still very brand new but

Power Rankings

CBS
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/powerrankings

NBA
http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/

Bleacher
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2139064-nba-power-rankings-post-2014-nba-free-agent-frenzy-edition/page/11

All have us at around 21-22. Would like to see record breakdown which may come later in the summer

Interesting that nba.com had the Knicks at 19 last week. I wonder what happened to push them back a couple of spots.

it's july. these writers are going to re-assess and fluctuate a slot or two but the general picture is coming into view. ranking the knicks as 21st in the nba is by no means unrealistic, as contrasted with fantasies of 50 wins.

there is only so much you can expect when a team is going to be this bad defensively and in rebounding.

someone expecting more than .500 from this team will have to explain to me how a new coaching staff and system is going to account for an extra 10-15 wins this season. the knicks ranked 21st means that their defense puts them in a 5 or 6 game hole below .500 to begin with.

this means the offense has to be able to account for another 6-15 wins, which would rank them as one of the top offenses in the league. that's asking an awful lot.

last year hollinger had ny ranked 11th, just behind minnesota. their TS% was a below par 54.1 and without chandler there to pump up that number you are relying on the triangle offense to get them from 14th up to top 3, where they would need to raise their TS% up a whopping 3 points.

smackeddog wrote:

F500ONE wrote:Well things are still very brand new but

Power Rankings

CBS
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/powerrankings

NBA
http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/

Bleacher
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2139064-nba-power-rankings-post-2014-nba-free-agent-frenzy-edition/page/11

All have us at around 21-22. Would like to see record breakdown which may come later in the summer

Why have CBS ranked the heat at number 8?! Madness! A declining Wade, No Lebron, an ageing Birman, no Ray Allen, no Shane Battier- how the heck is Bosh going to carry that team? Dang had no impact on the Cavs either. I wouldn't be surprised if they missed the playoffs.

As for our ranking- I don't care. We stunk last year in every way, and if you stink you deserve the ridicule in the offseason and low expectations the next season. Hopefully we have a bounce back season, but we have to earn it.

nyvector16 wrote:Crush.. it is another one of the Deng is a superstar media narratives that they have been pushing for years...
Nevermind the guy rarely plays a full season and although is a good player, it is not like he takes over games.

who on the san antonio spurs takes over games.

F500ONE wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nyvector16 wrote:Crush.. it is another one of the Deng is a superstar media narratives that they have been pushing for years...
Nevermind the guy rarely plays a full season and although is a good player, it is not like he takes over games.

who on the san antonio spurs takes over games.

One of our biggest achilles may have been not having a guy who could "finish" games.

Parker has taken over games as has Ginobli, not at high clips though

Not sure where you get the idea that Melo's usage is gonna go down, if anything it may go up.

He just wont be tasked to score every trip down, the team will learn that they have options based on the defense presented, the essence of the triangle.

But make no mistake he will have his lion share of the ball decisions just Like Jordan and Kobe who had huge usage numbers.

The usage isnt a problem, putting it to work in a team orientation was the issue last year.

knickscity wrote:They wont win 54 like they did under Woody, but should be more cohesive.

Not sure where you get the idea that Melo's usage is gonna go down, if anything it may go up.

He just wont be tasked to score every trip down, the team will learn that they have options based on the defense presented, the essence of the triangle.

But make no mistake he will have his lion share of the ball decisions just Like Jordan and Kobe who had huge usage numbers.

The usage isnt a problem, putting it to work in a team orientation was the issue last year.

I'm betting that Melo's total minutes will be substantially less than he played under Woody. Last year in just 77 games he logged 2982 minutes which was more than any year except for his Rookie season in which he played 2995 minutes but in 80 games. Better TEAM play will allow Fish to save Melo for closing moments. Not to mention that since the offense is less predictable and includes more players in the scheme, that will make Melo more dangerous. Under Woody we were perhaps the easiest team to defend in the closing moments. Teams knew what we would do and it was easy to defend. At least with the Triangle there is off ball motion and multiple options.