mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Splat wrote:Gee, I know I had posted in this thread in November, but I had never peeked at the first portions of the thread. People really were juiced up this Summer weren't they?

Even the Haters were roided up

I had things pegged pretty solid with exception

To a major whiff on Charlotte

They IMO are by far the most disappointing team in the East

Al Jefferson is overrated (offensively) and he is a horrible defender buy yay for his throw back archaic post game.

I'd take Al Jefferson right about now (I mean for a bag of donuts or something)

would you give up our first rounder (if the CBA allowed)? No freakin way.

I don't want him occupying our cap space.

I am not saying that he is not a good player but certainly overrated.

I think he's properly rated

He doesn't make Max money, never has and is essentially 20/10 player

He might get close to max this summer only because of circumstance

No one goes on and on about Al Jefferson, great low post player though

way too many holes in his game and is certainly NOT a two way player.

I don't think we go near him. I hope that is the case.

As do others

Neither is Aldridge-K-Love-Jordan-Monroe-Chandler-Asik etc etc

But they're all getting paid this summer by someone

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Splat wrote:Gee, I know I had posted in this thread in November, but I had never peeked at the first portions of the thread. People really were juiced up this Summer weren't they?

Even the Haters were roided up

I had things pegged pretty solid with exception

To a major whiff on Charlotte

They IMO are by far the most disappointing team in the East

Al Jefferson is overrated (offensively) and he is a horrible defender buy yay for his throw back archaic post game.

I'd take Al Jefferson right about now (I mean for a bag of donuts or something)

would you give up our first rounder (if the CBA allowed)? No freakin way.

I don't want him occupying our cap space.

I am not saying that he is not a good player but certainly overrated.

I think he's properly rated

He doesn't make Max money, never has and is essentially 20/10 player

He might get close to max this summer only because of circumstance

No one goes on and on about Al Jefferson, great low post player though

way too many holes in his game and is certainly NOT a two way player.

I don't think we go near him. I hope that is the case.

As do others

Neither is Aldridge-K-Love-Jordan-Monroe-Chandler-Asik etc etc

But they're all getting paid this summer by someone

Only Love and Aldridge get/deserve max money.

I know that you don't like Love but I am ready to pay him. The only thing that I worry about is his health but at least we can insure him ... yay

gunsnewing wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I feel bad for Phil and fish. The Knicks are going to be so bad defensively that their era is going to get off on the wrong foot. You know how New York is.

Would've much rather have purged the roster and give Phil and fish a fresh start. This can get ugly. I know they knew what they were getting into. I know they will eventually purge the roster but I don't want to see a Walsh/Dantoni situation again when things snowball to hate from fans and media

Holy chit im nostradamus

OK wise guy. We know you posted that yesterday, right?

No, seriously. When did you post that?

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Splat wrote:Gee, I know I had posted in this thread in November, but I had never peeked at the first portions of the thread. People really were juiced up this Summer weren't they?

Even the Haters were roided up

I had things pegged pretty solid with exception

To a major whiff on Charlotte

They IMO are by far the most disappointing team in the East

Al Jefferson is overrated (offensively) and he is a horrible defender buy yay for his throw back archaic post game.

I'd take Al Jefferson right about now (I mean for a bag of donuts or something)

would you give up our first rounder (if the CBA allowed)? No freakin way.

I don't want him occupying our cap space.

I am not saying that he is not a good player but certainly overrated.

I think he's properly rated

He doesn't make Max money, never has and is essentially 20/10 player

He might get close to max this summer only because of circumstance

No one goes on and on about Al Jefferson, great low post player though

way too many holes in his game and is certainly NOT a two way player.

I don't think we go near him. I hope that is the case.

As do others

Neither is Aldridge-K-Love-Jordan-Monroe-Chandler-Asik etc etc

But they're all getting paid this summer by someone

Only Love and Aldridge get/deserve max money.

I know that you don't like Love but I am ready to pay him. The only thing that I worry about is his health but at least we can insure him ... yay

The only one that truly deserves it is Aldridge

He's proven he makes a difference in winning

And he's the foundational offensive piece

On a winning team in a much tougher conference

Love only has a case based on numbers and market value

He's not a bad player at all, he just doesn't deserve max money

Regardless he's getting paid

I think you're overrating Aldridge which is surprising. I agree he is a max player in the league when you look at who else gets paid, so that really doesn't mean much. But he toiled on some horrible teams until Lillard came along. I think Aldridge as your only star player is a lottery ticket, especially in the west. He isn't a difference maker and doesn't make others better. Not much difference between him and Anthony, actually. A couple more rebounds a game, but unlike Anthony he can't hit 3's, at all. He also jacks lotsa midrange two's. I guess I just dont understand how you can loath Anthony's game and praise Aldridge's. He is a classic volume shooter. On D he may be better than Anthony but Ive never heard his name bandied about as a great defender either. Ive never been a big fan of Lamarcus or Anthony for the same reasons. Curious why you view him as max worthy.

H1AND1 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Splat wrote:Gee, I know I had posted in this thread in November, but I had never peeked at the first portions of the thread. People really were juiced up this Summer weren't they?

Even the Haters were roided up

I had things pegged pretty solid with exception

To a major whiff on Charlotte

They IMO are by far the most disappointing team in the East

Al Jefferson is overrated (offensively) and he is a horrible defender buy yay for his throw back archaic post game.

I'd take Al Jefferson right about now (I mean for a bag of donuts or something)

would you give up our first rounder (if the CBA allowed)? No freakin way.

I don't want him occupying our cap space.

I am not saying that he is not a good player but certainly overrated.

I think he's properly rated

He doesn't make Max money, never has and is essentially 20/10 player

He might get close to max this summer only because of circumstance

No one goes on and on about Al Jefferson, great low post player though

way too many holes in his game and is certainly NOT a two way player.

I don't think we go near him. I hope that is the case.

As do others

Neither is Aldridge-K-Love-Jordan-Monroe-Chandler-Asik etc etc

But they're all getting paid this summer by someone

Only Love and Aldridge get/deserve max money.

I know that you don't like Love but I am ready to pay him. The only thing that I worry about is his health but at least we can insure him ... yay

The only one that truly deserves it is Aldridge

He's proven he makes a difference in winning

And he's the foundational offensive piece

On a winning team in a much tougher conference

Love only has a case based on numbers and market value

He's not a bad player at all, he just doesn't deserve max money

Regardless he's getting paid

I think you're overrating Aldridge which is surprising. I agree he is a max player in the league when you look at who else gets paid, so that really doesn't mean much. But he toiled on some horrible teams until Lillard came along. I think Aldridge as your only star player is a lottery ticket, especially in the west. He isn't a difference maker and doesn't make others better. Not much difference between him and Anthony, actually. A couple more rebounds a game, but unlike Anthony he can't hit 3's, at all. He also jacks lotsa midrange two's. I guess I just dont understand how you can loath Anthony's game and praise Aldridge's. He is a classic volume shooter. On D he may be better than Anthony but Ive never heard his name bandied about as a great defender either. Ive never been a big fan of Lamarcus or Anthony for the same reasons. Curious why you view him as max worthy.

No you're overestimating my estimation

Personally I wouldn't give L.A. for maybe a couple reasons you mentioned

But as we delve deep all players have flaws

I was saying from those crop of players he'd be the player deserving Max IMO

I'm not too enamored giving 30yr olds 4-5yr deals in general

F500ONE wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Splat wrote:Gee, I know I had posted in this thread in November, but I had never peeked at the first portions of the thread. People really were juiced up this Summer weren't they?

Even the Haters were roided up

I had things pegged pretty solid with exception

To a major whiff on Charlotte

They IMO are by far the most disappointing team in the East

Al Jefferson is overrated (offensively) and he is a horrible defender buy yay for his throw back archaic post game.

I'd take Al Jefferson right about now (I mean for a bag of donuts or something)

would you give up our first rounder (if the CBA allowed)? No freakin way.

I don't want him occupying our cap space.

I am not saying that he is not a good player but certainly overrated.

I think he's properly rated

He doesn't make Max money, never has and is essentially 20/10 player

He might get close to max this summer only because of circumstance

No one goes on and on about Al Jefferson, great low post player though

way too many holes in his game and is certainly NOT a two way player.

I don't think we go near him. I hope that is the case.

As do others

Neither is Aldridge-K-Love-Jordan-Monroe-Chandler-Asik etc etc

But they're all getting paid this summer by someone

Only Love and Aldridge get/deserve max money.

I know that you don't like Love but I am ready to pay him. The only thing that I worry about is his health but at least we can insure him ... yay

The only one that truly deserves it is Aldridge

He's proven he makes a difference in winning

And he's the foundational offensive piece

On a winning team in a much tougher conference

Love only has a case based on numbers and market value

He's not a bad player at all, he just doesn't deserve max money

Regardless he's getting paid

I think you're overrating Aldridge which is surprising. I agree he is a max player in the league when you look at who else gets paid, so that really doesn't mean much. But he toiled on some horrible teams until Lillard came along. I think Aldridge as your only star player is a lottery ticket, especially in the west. He isn't a difference maker and doesn't make others better. Not much difference between him and Anthony, actually. A couple more rebounds a game, but unlike Anthony he can't hit 3's, at all. He also jacks lotsa midrange two's. I guess I just dont understand how you can loath Anthony's game and praise Aldridge's. He is a classic volume shooter. On D he may be better than Anthony but Ive never heard his name bandied about as a great defender either. Ive never been a big fan of Lamarcus or Anthony for the same reasons. Curious why you view him as max worthy.

No you're overestimating my estimation

Personally I wouldn't give L.A. for maybe a couple reasons you mentioned

But as we delve deep all players have flaws

I was saying from those crop of players he'd be the player deserving Max IMO

I'm not too enamored giving 30yr olds 4-5yr deals in general

Well i agree that i don't like giving 30+ year olds longterm deals. Recipe for disaster.

Splat wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Splat wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I feel bad for Phil and fish. The Knicks are going to be so bad defensively that their era is going to get off on the wrong foot. You know how New York is.

Would've much rather have purged the roster and give Phil and fish a fresh start. This can get ugly. I know they knew what they were getting into. I know they will eventually purge the roster but I don't want to see a Walsh/Dantoni situation again when things snowball to hate from fans and media

Holy chit im nostradamus

OK wise guy. We know you posted that yesterday, right?

No, seriously. When did you post that?

page 2 back in July lol

That's kind of spooky. You were right. You are like a digitally tooled mythological super taco.

This thread is a classic for the most part

Some good reading first 6-7pages

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Splat wrote:Gee, I know I had posted in this thread in November, but I had never peeked at the first portions of the thread. People really were juiced up this Summer weren't they?

Even the Haters were roided up

I had things pegged pretty solid with exception

To a major whiff on Charlotte

They IMO are by far the most disappointing team in the East

Al Jefferson is overrated (offensively) and he is a horrible defender buy yay for his throw back archaic post game.

I'd take Al Jefferson right about now (I mean for a bag of donuts or something)

would you give up our first rounder (if the CBA allowed)? No freakin way.

I don't want him occupying our cap space.

I am not saying that he is not a good player but certainly overrated.

I think he's properly rated

He doesn't make Max money, never has and is essentially 20/10 player

He might get close to max this summer only because of circumstance

No one goes on and on about Al Jefferson, great low post player though

way too many holes in his game and is certainly NOT a two way player.

I don't think we go near him. I hope that is the case.

As do others

Neither is Aldridge-K-Love-Jordan-Monroe-Chandler-Asik etc etc

But they're all getting paid this summer by someone

Only Love and Aldridge get/deserve max money.

I know that you don't like Love but I am ready to pay him. The only thing that I worry about is his health but at least we can insure him ... yay

The only one that truly deserves it is Aldridge

He's proven he makes a difference in winning

And he's the foundational offensive piece

On a winning team in a much tougher conference

Love only has a case based on numbers and market value

He's not a bad player at all, he just doesn't deserve max money

Regardless he's getting paid

For a poster who has called out Melo for years for his playoff failures, did you even bother to double check LA's (9th year in the league) playoff record and performances (horrendous efficiency (TS or FG your choice)) before saying that "He's proven he makes a difference in winning"?

I gave my reason based on those grouping of bigs

Not that I'd pay him that personally, which I clarified with H1AND1

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Splat wrote:Gee, I know I had posted in this thread in November, but I had never peeked at the first portions of the thread. People really were juiced up this Summer weren't they?

Even the Haters were roided up

I had things pegged pretty solid with exception

To a major whiff on Charlotte

They IMO are by far the most disappointing team in the East

Al Jefferson is overrated (offensively) and he is a horrible defender buy yay for his throw back archaic post game.

I'd take Al Jefferson right about now (I mean for a bag of donuts or something)

would you give up our first rounder (if the CBA allowed)? No freakin way.

I don't want him occupying our cap space.

I am not saying that he is not a good player but certainly overrated.

I think he's properly rated

He doesn't make Max money, never has and is essentially 20/10 player

He might get close to max this summer only because of circumstance

No one goes on and on about Al Jefferson, great low post player though

way too many holes in his game and is certainly NOT a two way player.

I don't think we go near him. I hope that is the case.

As do others

Neither is Aldridge-K-Love-Jordan-Monroe-Chandler-Asik etc etc

But they're all getting paid this summer by someone

Only Love and Aldridge get/deserve max money.

I know that you don't like Love but I am ready to pay him. The only thing that I worry about is his health but at least we can insure him ... yay

The only one that truly deserves it is Aldridge

He's proven he makes a difference in winning

And he's the foundational offensive piece

On a winning team in a much tougher conference

Love only has a case based on numbers and market value

He's not a bad player at all, he just doesn't deserve max money

Regardless he's getting paid

For a poster who has called out Melo for years for his playoff failures, did you even bother to double check LA's (9th year in the league) playoff record and performances (horrendous efficiency (TS or FG your choice)) before saying that "He's proven he makes a difference in winning"?

I gave my reason based on those grouping of bigs

Not that I'd pay him that personally, which I clarified with H1AND1

you are back pedaling (which is fine). you seem to be doing this a lot though.

There is no backpedaling and I don't backpedal

I clearly said they are all getting paid

But felt the group of bigs left no choice to go with L.A.

If we're talking Max, I could care less

Don't want Aldridge, we have no shot at Aldridge

I said in the other thread I'm not interested in paying Gasol $20mil/yr

And yet he deserves it over everyone, he just wasn't listed in the current exchange

I'm pretty consistent

Love did nothing but lose in Sota

Jordan lost with Clippers until CP3 showed up

Asik really is non factor

Jefferson has lost majority of his career

Tyson lost a helluva lot of games before arriving in Dallas

Monroe straight up loser

Those were the guys we mentioned for Max or deserving of huge paydays

A few of them aren't getting max regardless but they will be financially compensated nonetheless

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Splat wrote:Gee, I know I had posted in this thread in November, but I had never peeked at the first portions of the thread. People really were juiced up this Summer weren't they?

Even the Haters were roided up

I had things pegged pretty solid with exception

To a major whiff on Charlotte

They IMO are by far the most disappointing team in the East

Al Jefferson is overrated (offensively) and he is a horrible defender buy yay for his throw back archaic post game.

I'd take Al Jefferson right about now (I mean for a bag of donuts or something)

would you give up our first rounder (if the CBA allowed)? No freakin way.

I don't want him occupying our cap space.

I am not saying that he is not a good player but certainly overrated.

I think he's properly rated

He doesn't make Max money, never has and is essentially 20/10 player

He might get close to max this summer only because of circumstance

No one goes on and on about Al Jefferson, great low post player though

way too many holes in his game and is certainly NOT a two way player.

I don't think we go near him. I hope that is the case.

As do others

Neither is Aldridge-K-Love-Jordan-Monroe-Chandler-Asik etc etc

But they're all getting paid this summer by someone

Only Love and Aldridge get/deserve max money.

I know that you don't like Love but I am ready to pay him. The only thing that I worry about is his health but at least we can insure him ... yay

The only one that truly deserves it is Aldridge

He's proven he makes a difference in winning

And he's the foundational offensive piece

On a winning team in a much tougher conference

Love only has a case based on numbers and market value

He's not a bad player at all, he just doesn't deserve max money

Regardless he's getting paid

For a poster who has called out Melo for years for his playoff failures, did you even bother to double check LA's (9th year in the league) playoff record and performances (horrendous efficiency (TS or FG your choice)) before saying that "He's proven he makes a difference in winning"?

I gave my reason based on those grouping of bigs

Not that I'd pay him that personally, which I clarified with H1AND1

you are back pedaling (which is fine). you seem to be doing this a lot though.

There is no backpedaling and I don't backpedal

I clearly said they are all getting paid

But felt the group of bigs left no choice to go with L.A.

If we're talking Max, I could care less

Don't want Aldridge, we have no shot at Aldridge

I said in the other thread I'm not interested in paying Gasol $20mil/yr

And yet he deserves it over everyone, he just wasn't listed in the current exchange

I'm pretty consistent

Love did nothing but lose in Sota

Jordan lost with Clippers until CP3 showed up

Asik really is non factor

Jefferson has lost majority of his career

Tyson lost a helluva lot of games before arriving in Dallas

Monroe straight up loser

Those were the guys we mentioned for Max or deserving of huge paydays

A few of them aren't getting max regardless but they will be financially compensated nonetheless

Losing is irrelevant (for the most part). Its how you perform on a losing team. You gotta do your part.

So ... do you think that perhaps LA should be incorporating the 3 ball into his game?

Splat wrote:I just want to make one thing perfectly clear.

F5 don't backpedal!

can you back that up or would you like to ...