F500ONE wrote:

fishmike wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:OMG! I just wrote that it's more likely Phil will look to acquire some Near Max guys rather than blow it all on one max guy and then not have any cap for much else. WTF?

nixluva wrote:It seems to me that there could be more value in finding a way to get the help we need outside of adding a Max FA. Phil is going to have to really come up with a plan that builds this team with near max players rather than splurge for that one max guy and have very little else. I'm pretty sure that Phil and his staff have crunched the numbers and laid out multiple scenarios for what they can do with the cap next summer. I'm sure that they quickly came to realize that this was not going to be easy to figure out. This is why the move to add youth was so important. You have to find a way to secure cheap talent. The best way is with young players. That young talent is the lifeline for a GM. Think of how much different our team would look if Phil had not made the trade?

WTF??? Why so tense?

So the beginning of supporting for this approach started with Phil making the Dallas trade?

Shouldn't this always be a front office's MO

Did you support the Bargnani trade giving up 2 picks and a 1st which could have equated to adding more youthful talent going for our rebuild future

Are you a forward thinking fan or an in the moment kind

For the record stop giving Phil lay on thick kudos because if I recall correctly we rejected several Chandler trades over the past yr or so

Our team could look very much the same had Grunwald or Mills pulled the trigger on deals

Phil hasn't done anything out of the ordinary had we hired an ordinary GM

He hasn't even scratched the surface of his $60mil paycheck

Phil made a good deal imo, and I wont knock him because the previous GM's didnt do it. Phil has recognized that the backcourt is too crowded, so I'd like to see how he will address that.

Imo, this upcoming season should be all about establishing the culture he wants, if the teams can win games in the process that would be a plus initself.

Phil gets no grade by me til i see what he does in 2015, whether that means making good signings to the roster and keeping flexibility for 2016 as well.

Right after Melo was signed Phil was interviewed during the Knicks sl game against Charlotte. Phil said he is hoping to bring in two really good players with the cap space that the Knicks have available in 2015.

Crush i'm convinced that most of the guys complaining and doubting have no idea what Phil has been saying. This is why they're talking such nonsense. They really haven't dug deep into what's going on and the possibilities that are being created for this franchise since Phil came on board. No one is saying he's perfect or anything, but he's done a good job so far with very limited resources. Did anyone expect a sexy move so early considering what Phil had to work with? I do know that he didn't lose in the trade with Dallas. He got a better PG which we needed and young assets to boot. That's a win in my book.

you nailed it. Most thought this was a sit and wait offseason, no picks, no MLE, no cap space, players nobody wanted to trade for, etc etc.. we heard it all. Phil gets us younger, jettisons guys who a problem last year, has a good draft, adds a couple prospects, fixes PG and sets us up to have a good season, but guys would rather spin their wheels about MElo's no trade or Calderon's $7mm year. Its going to be a good year. Keep posting and stay thirsty

The previous GM received full support for the moves he was making with a means to an end goal.

The only difference, the end goal keeps changing

The previous GM made moves that supposedly fit Melo and the style of play

He made moves that suggested we were in win now mode, none of them really worked

Probably some doubted they ever would

We've built twice around a player in his prime and now are doing it as he's coming out, stakes could never be higher

Okay so now we've hired Phil, we have some direction

The top heavy part of the plan is older and the outside competition is getting younger-better

The top heavy part of the plan also took too much of the pie, to make it easier to execute the plan

I think Phil has a good sense of what it takes to win, he simply doesn't have the resources to accomplish peak results

We're probably better than we were 10yrs ago or so, but not too hard improving on a low benchmark

We need long sustaining success starting with and going beyond Phil and Melo's contractual tenure

I don't see it, I see another flash in the pan plan.

We never "built" around melo

aside from getting bargs

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

fishmike wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:OMG! I just wrote that it's more likely Phil will look to acquire some Near Max guys rather than blow it all on one max guy and then not have any cap for much else. WTF?

nixluva wrote:It seems to me that there could be more value in finding a way to get the help we need outside of adding a Max FA. Phil is going to have to really come up with a plan that builds this team with near max players rather than splurge for that one max guy and have very little else. I'm pretty sure that Phil and his staff have crunched the numbers and laid out multiple scenarios for what they can do with the cap next summer. I'm sure that they quickly came to realize that this was not going to be easy to figure out. This is why the move to add youth was so important. You have to find a way to secure cheap talent. The best way is with young players. That young talent is the lifeline for a GM. Think of how much different our team would look if Phil had not made the trade?

WTF??? Why so tense?

So the beginning of supporting for this approach started with Phil making the Dallas trade?

Shouldn't this always be a front office's MO

Did you support the Bargnani trade giving up 2 picks and a 1st which could have equated to adding more youthful talent going for our rebuild future

Are you a forward thinking fan or an in the moment kind

For the record stop giving Phil lay on thick kudos because if I recall correctly we rejected several Chandler trades over the past yr or so

Our team could look very much the same had Grunwald or Mills pulled the trigger on deals

Phil hasn't done anything out of the ordinary had we hired an ordinary GM

He hasn't even scratched the surface of his $60mil paycheck

Phil made a good deal imo, and I wont knock him because the previous GM's didnt do it. Phil has recognized that the backcourt is too crowded, so I'd like to see how he will address that.

Imo, this upcoming season should be all about establishing the culture he wants, if the teams can win games in the process that would be a plus initself.

Phil gets no grade by me til i see what he does in 2015, whether that means making good signings to the roster and keeping flexibility for 2016 as well.

Right after Melo was signed Phil was interviewed during the Knicks sl game against Charlotte. Phil said he is hoping to bring in two really good players with the cap space that the Knicks have available in 2015.

Crush i'm convinced that most of the guys complaining and doubting have no idea what Phil has been saying. This is why they're talking such nonsense. They really haven't dug deep into what's going on and the possibilities that are being created for this franchise since Phil came on board. No one is saying he's perfect or anything, but he's done a good job so far with very limited resources. Did anyone expect a sexy move so early considering what Phil had to work with? I do know that he didn't lose in the trade with Dallas. He got a better PG which we needed and young assets to boot. That's a win in my book.

you nailed it. Most thought this was a sit and wait offseason, no picks, no MLE, no cap space, players nobody wanted to trade for, etc etc.. we heard it all. Phil gets us younger, jettisons guys who a problem last year, has a good draft, adds a couple prospects, fixes PG and sets us up to have a good season, but guys would rather spin their wheels about MElo's no trade or Calderon's $7mm year. Its going to be a good year. Keep posting and stay thirsty

The previous GM received full support for the moves he was making with a means to an end goal.

The only difference, the end goal keeps changing

The previous GM made moves that supposedly fit Melo and the style of play

He made moves that suggested we were in win now mode, none of them really worked

Probably some doubted they ever would

We've built twice around a player in his prime and now are doing it as he's coming out, stakes could never be higher

Okay so now we've hired Phil, we have some direction

The top heavy part of the plan is older and the outside competition is getting younger-better

The top heavy part of the plan also took too much of the pie, to make it easier to execute the plan

I think Phil has a good sense of what it takes to win, he simply doesn't have the resources to accomplish peak results

We're probably better than we were 10yrs ago or so, but not too hard improving on a low benchmark

We need long sustaining success starting with and going beyond Phil and Melo's contractual tenure

I don't see it, I see another flash in the pan plan.

We never "built" around melo

aside from getting bargs

So Tyson-Smith-K-Mart weren't guys brought here to help Melo?

Let's agree their plan to build around him was awfully executed

How could we contend if we weren't building around anyone?

Were we building around your favorite, in Amare

Rose didn't recruit Lebron James when he was up a few years ago so what did that mean?

Noah, the team leader and heart and soul of the team, did recruit Melo so what does that mean?

Also, when you continually only have the mMLE it's pretty hard to say your are building. It's pretty hard to Build when there is an anchor weighing down your FA moves. Then on top of that you make a terrible trade by giving up a 1st. I saw the trade for Bargs coming but I didn't see the 1st rd draft pick.

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

fishmike wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:OMG! I just wrote that it's more likely Phil will look to acquire some Near Max guys rather than blow it all on one max guy and then not have any cap for much else. WTF?

nixluva wrote:It seems to me that there could be more value in finding a way to get the help we need outside of adding a Max FA. Phil is going to have to really come up with a plan that builds this team with near max players rather than splurge for that one max guy and have very little else. I'm pretty sure that Phil and his staff have crunched the numbers and laid out multiple scenarios for what they can do with the cap next summer. I'm sure that they quickly came to realize that this was not going to be easy to figure out. This is why the move to add youth was so important. You have to find a way to secure cheap talent. The best way is with young players. That young talent is the lifeline for a GM. Think of how much different our team would look if Phil had not made the trade?

WTF??? Why so tense?

So the beginning of supporting for this approach started with Phil making the Dallas trade?

Shouldn't this always be a front office's MO

Did you support the Bargnani trade giving up 2 picks and a 1st which could have equated to adding more youthful talent going for our rebuild future

Are you a forward thinking fan or an in the moment kind

For the record stop giving Phil lay on thick kudos because if I recall correctly we rejected several Chandler trades over the past yr or so

Our team could look very much the same had Grunwald or Mills pulled the trigger on deals

Phil hasn't done anything out of the ordinary had we hired an ordinary GM

He hasn't even scratched the surface of his $60mil paycheck

Phil made a good deal imo, and I wont knock him because the previous GM's didnt do it. Phil has recognized that the backcourt is too crowded, so I'd like to see how he will address that.

Imo, this upcoming season should be all about establishing the culture he wants, if the teams can win games in the process that would be a plus initself.

Phil gets no grade by me til i see what he does in 2015, whether that means making good signings to the roster and keeping flexibility for 2016 as well.

Right after Melo was signed Phil was interviewed during the Knicks sl game against Charlotte. Phil said he is hoping to bring in two really good players with the cap space that the Knicks have available in 2015.

Crush i'm convinced that most of the guys complaining and doubting have no idea what Phil has been saying. This is why they're talking such nonsense. They really haven't dug deep into what's going on and the possibilities that are being created for this franchise since Phil came on board. No one is saying he's perfect or anything, but he's done a good job so far with very limited resources. Did anyone expect a sexy move so early considering what Phil had to work with? I do know that he didn't lose in the trade with Dallas. He got a better PG which we needed and young assets to boot. That's a win in my book.

you nailed it. Most thought this was a sit and wait offseason, no picks, no MLE, no cap space, players nobody wanted to trade for, etc etc.. we heard it all. Phil gets us younger, jettisons guys who a problem last year, has a good draft, adds a couple prospects, fixes PG and sets us up to have a good season, but guys would rather spin their wheels about MElo's no trade or Calderon's $7mm year. Its going to be a good year. Keep posting and stay thirsty

The previous GM received full support for the moves he was making with a means to an end goal.

The only difference, the end goal keeps changing

The previous GM made moves that supposedly fit Melo and the style of play

He made moves that suggested we were in win now mode, none of them really worked

Probably some doubted they ever would

We've built twice around a player in his prime and now are doing it as he's coming out, stakes could never be higher

Okay so now we've hired Phil, we have some direction

The top heavy part of the plan is older and the outside competition is getting younger-better

The top heavy part of the plan also took too much of the pie, to make it easier to execute the plan

I think Phil has a good sense of what it takes to win, he simply doesn't have the resources to accomplish peak results

We're probably better than we were 10yrs ago or so, but not too hard improving on a low benchmark

We need long sustaining success starting with and going beyond Phil and Melo's contractual tenure

I don't see it, I see another flash in the pan plan.

We never "built" around melo

aside from getting bargs

So Tyson-Smith-K-Mart weren't guys brought here to help Melo?

Let's agree their plan to build around him was awfully executed

How could we contend if we weren't building around anyone?

Were we building around your favorite, in Amare

Were we building around Amare when we brought in Melo? Of course not!

We can agree that whatever they did was awfully executed.

Overpaying for Tyson and wasting our amnesty while losing our only PG was not building, it was destroying.

Kmart is 90 and Smith is an idiot.

I guess it all depends what "building" is.

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

fishmike wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:OMG! I just wrote that it's more likely Phil will look to acquire some Near Max guys rather than blow it all on one max guy and then not have any cap for much else. WTF?

nixluva wrote:It seems to me that there could be more value in finding a way to get the help we need outside of adding a Max FA. Phil is going to have to really come up with a plan that builds this team with near max players rather than splurge for that one max guy and have very little else. I'm pretty sure that Phil and his staff have crunched the numbers and laid out multiple scenarios for what they can do with the cap next summer. I'm sure that they quickly came to realize that this was not going to be easy to figure out. This is why the move to add youth was so important. You have to find a way to secure cheap talent. The best way is with young players. That young talent is the lifeline for a GM. Think of how much different our team would look if Phil had not made the trade?

WTF??? Why so tense?

So the beginning of supporting for this approach started with Phil making the Dallas trade?

Shouldn't this always be a front office's MO

Did you support the Bargnani trade giving up 2 picks and a 1st which could have equated to adding more youthful talent going for our rebuild future

Are you a forward thinking fan or an in the moment kind

For the record stop giving Phil lay on thick kudos because if I recall correctly we rejected several Chandler trades over the past yr or so

Our team could look very much the same had Grunwald or Mills pulled the trigger on deals

Phil hasn't done anything out of the ordinary had we hired an ordinary GM

He hasn't even scratched the surface of his $60mil paycheck

Phil made a good deal imo, and I wont knock him because the previous GM's didnt do it. Phil has recognized that the backcourt is too crowded, so I'd like to see how he will address that.

Imo, this upcoming season should be all about establishing the culture he wants, if the teams can win games in the process that would be a plus initself.

Phil gets no grade by me til i see what he does in 2015, whether that means making good signings to the roster and keeping flexibility for 2016 as well.

Right after Melo was signed Phil was interviewed during the Knicks sl game against Charlotte. Phil said he is hoping to bring in two really good players with the cap space that the Knicks have available in 2015.

Crush i'm convinced that most of the guys complaining and doubting have no idea what Phil has been saying. This is why they're talking such nonsense. They really haven't dug deep into what's going on and the possibilities that are being created for this franchise since Phil came on board. No one is saying he's perfect or anything, but he's done a good job so far with very limited resources. Did anyone expect a sexy move so early considering what Phil had to work with? I do know that he didn't lose in the trade with Dallas. He got a better PG which we needed and young assets to boot. That's a win in my book.

you nailed it. Most thought this was a sit and wait offseason, no picks, no MLE, no cap space, players nobody wanted to trade for, etc etc.. we heard it all. Phil gets us younger, jettisons guys who a problem last year, has a good draft, adds a couple prospects, fixes PG and sets us up to have a good season, but guys would rather spin their wheels about MElo's no trade or Calderon's $7mm year. Its going to be a good year. Keep posting and stay thirsty

The previous GM received full support for the moves he was making with a means to an end goal.

The only difference, the end goal keeps changing

The previous GM made moves that supposedly fit Melo and the style of play

He made moves that suggested we were in win now mode, none of them really worked

Probably some doubted they ever would

We've built twice around a player in his prime and now are doing it as he's coming out, stakes could never be higher

Okay so now we've hired Phil, we have some direction

The top heavy part of the plan is older and the outside competition is getting younger-better

The top heavy part of the plan also took too much of the pie, to make it easier to execute the plan

I think Phil has a good sense of what it takes to win, he simply doesn't have the resources to accomplish peak results

We're probably better than we were 10yrs ago or so, but not too hard improving on a low benchmark

We need long sustaining success starting with and going beyond Phil and Melo's contractual tenure

I don't see it, I see another flash in the pan plan.

We never "built" around melo

aside from getting bargs

So Tyson-Smith-K-Mart weren't guys brought here to help Melo?

Let's agree their plan to build around him was awfully executed

How could we contend if we weren't building around anyone?

Were we building around your favorite, in Amare

Were we building around Amare when we brought in Melo? Of course not!

We can agree that whatever they did was awfully executed.

Overpaying for Tyson and wasting our amnesty while losing our only PG was not building, it was destroying.

Kmart is 90 and Smith is an idiot.

I guess it all depends what "building" is.

your only saying this now, but when tyson came in a gave us some defensive credibility and won DPOY, were you still thinking we overpaid, especially being a key member of a championship team (in dallas). Amare wasn't breaking down, and billups got hurt a few wks into the season and eneded up missing a yr.

You guys think coaches and GMs get a ton of time to develop, groom, and put together a nice ROSTER..wrong. they get a yr or 2

knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

fishmike wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:OMG! I just wrote that it's more likely Phil will look to acquire some Near Max guys rather than blow it all on one max guy and then not have any cap for much else. WTF?

nixluva wrote:It seems to me that there could be more value in finding a way to get the help we need outside of adding a Max FA. Phil is going to have to really come up with a plan that builds this team with near max players rather than splurge for that one max guy and have very little else. I'm pretty sure that Phil and his staff have crunched the numbers and laid out multiple scenarios for what they can do with the cap next summer. I'm sure that they quickly came to realize that this was not going to be easy to figure out. This is why the move to add youth was so important. You have to find a way to secure cheap talent. The best way is with young players. That young talent is the lifeline for a GM. Think of how much different our team would look if Phil had not made the trade?

WTF??? Why so tense?

So the beginning of supporting for this approach started with Phil making the Dallas trade?

Shouldn't this always be a front office's MO

Did you support the Bargnani trade giving up 2 picks and a 1st which could have equated to adding more youthful talent going for our rebuild future

Are you a forward thinking fan or an in the moment kind

For the record stop giving Phil lay on thick kudos because if I recall correctly we rejected several Chandler trades over the past yr or so

Our team could look very much the same had Grunwald or Mills pulled the trigger on deals

Phil hasn't done anything out of the ordinary had we hired an ordinary GM

He hasn't even scratched the surface of his $60mil paycheck

Phil made a good deal imo, and I wont knock him because the previous GM's didnt do it. Phil has recognized that the backcourt is too crowded, so I'd like to see how he will address that.

Imo, this upcoming season should be all about establishing the culture he wants, if the teams can win games in the process that would be a plus initself.

Phil gets no grade by me til i see what he does in 2015, whether that means making good signings to the roster and keeping flexibility for 2016 as well.

Right after Melo was signed Phil was interviewed during the Knicks sl game against Charlotte. Phil said he is hoping to bring in two really good players with the cap space that the Knicks have available in 2015.

Crush i'm convinced that most of the guys complaining and doubting have no idea what Phil has been saying. This is why they're talking such nonsense. They really haven't dug deep into what's going on and the possibilities that are being created for this franchise since Phil came on board. No one is saying he's perfect or anything, but he's done a good job so far with very limited resources. Did anyone expect a sexy move so early considering what Phil had to work with? I do know that he didn't lose in the trade with Dallas. He got a better PG which we needed and young assets to boot. That's a win in my book.

you nailed it. Most thought this was a sit and wait offseason, no picks, no MLE, no cap space, players nobody wanted to trade for, etc etc.. we heard it all. Phil gets us younger, jettisons guys who a problem last year, has a good draft, adds a couple prospects, fixes PG and sets us up to have a good season, but guys would rather spin their wheels about MElo's no trade or Calderon's $7mm year. Its going to be a good year. Keep posting and stay thirsty

The previous GM received full support for the moves he was making with a means to an end goal.

The only difference, the end goal keeps changing

The previous GM made moves that supposedly fit Melo and the style of play

He made moves that suggested we were in win now mode, none of them really worked

Probably some doubted they ever would

We've built twice around a player in his prime and now are doing it as he's coming out, stakes could never be higher

Okay so now we've hired Phil, we have some direction

The top heavy part of the plan is older and the outside competition is getting younger-better

The top heavy part of the plan also took too much of the pie, to make it easier to execute the plan

I think Phil has a good sense of what it takes to win, he simply doesn't have the resources to accomplish peak results

We're probably better than we were 10yrs ago or so, but not too hard improving on a low benchmark

We need long sustaining success starting with and going beyond Phil and Melo's contractual tenure

I don't see it, I see another flash in the pan plan.

We never "built" around melo

aside from getting bargs

So Tyson-Smith-K-Mart weren't guys brought here to help Melo?

Let's agree their plan to build around him was awfully executed

How could we contend if we weren't building around anyone?

Were we building around your favorite, in Amare

Were we building around Amare when we brought in Melo? Of course not!

We can agree that whatever they did was awfully executed.

Overpaying for Tyson and wasting our amnesty while losing our only PG was not building, it was destroying.

Kmart is 90 and Smith is an idiot.

I guess it all depends what "building" is.

your only saying this now, but when tyson came in a gave us some defensive credibility and won DPOY, were you still thinking we overpaid, especially being a key member of a championship team (in dallas). Amare wasn't breaking down, and billups got hurt a few wks into the season and eneded up missing a yr.

You guys think coaches and GMs get a ton of time to develop, groom, and put together a nice ROSTER..wrong. they get a yr or 2

Yes. I hated the move then. I always hated the move.

What did you say about Bargs when we signed him? Do you think that our idiot GM knew that he was one of the worst players in the NBA?

Maybe we should have traded a couple of first for Darko ...

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

fishmike wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:OMG! I just wrote that it's more likely Phil will look to acquire some Near Max guys rather than blow it all on one max guy and then not have any cap for much else. WTF?

nixluva wrote:It seems to me that there could be more value in finding a way to get the help we need outside of adding a Max FA. Phil is going to have to really come up with a plan that builds this team with near max players rather than splurge for that one max guy and have very little else. I'm pretty sure that Phil and his staff have crunched the numbers and laid out multiple scenarios for what they can do with the cap next summer. I'm sure that they quickly came to realize that this was not going to be easy to figure out. This is why the move to add youth was so important. You have to find a way to secure cheap talent. The best way is with young players. That young talent is the lifeline for a GM. Think of how much different our team would look if Phil had not made the trade?

WTF??? Why so tense?

So the beginning of supporting for this approach started with Phil making the Dallas trade?

Shouldn't this always be a front office's MO

Did you support the Bargnani trade giving up 2 picks and a 1st which could have equated to adding more youthful talent going for our rebuild future

Are you a forward thinking fan or an in the moment kind

For the record stop giving Phil lay on thick kudos because if I recall correctly we rejected several Chandler trades over the past yr or so

Our team could look very much the same had Grunwald or Mills pulled the trigger on deals

Phil hasn't done anything out of the ordinary had we hired an ordinary GM

He hasn't even scratched the surface of his $60mil paycheck

Phil made a good deal imo, and I wont knock him because the previous GM's didnt do it. Phil has recognized that the backcourt is too crowded, so I'd like to see how he will address that.

Imo, this upcoming season should be all about establishing the culture he wants, if the teams can win games in the process that would be a plus initself.

Phil gets no grade by me til i see what he does in 2015, whether that means making good signings to the roster and keeping flexibility for 2016 as well.

Right after Melo was signed Phil was interviewed during the Knicks sl game against Charlotte. Phil said he is hoping to bring in two really good players with the cap space that the Knicks have available in 2015.

Crush i'm convinced that most of the guys complaining and doubting have no idea what Phil has been saying. This is why they're talking such nonsense. They really haven't dug deep into what's going on and the possibilities that are being created for this franchise since Phil came on board. No one is saying he's perfect or anything, but he's done a good job so far with very limited resources. Did anyone expect a sexy move so early considering what Phil had to work with? I do know that he didn't lose in the trade with Dallas. He got a better PG which we needed and young assets to boot. That's a win in my book.

you nailed it. Most thought this was a sit and wait offseason, no picks, no MLE, no cap space, players nobody wanted to trade for, etc etc.. we heard it all. Phil gets us younger, jettisons guys who a problem last year, has a good draft, adds a couple prospects, fixes PG and sets us up to have a good season, but guys would rather spin their wheels about MElo's no trade or Calderon's $7mm year. Its going to be a good year. Keep posting and stay thirsty

The previous GM received full support for the moves he was making with a means to an end goal.

The only difference, the end goal keeps changing

The previous GM made moves that supposedly fit Melo and the style of play

He made moves that suggested we were in win now mode, none of them really worked

Probably some doubted they ever would

We've built twice around a player in his prime and now are doing it as he's coming out, stakes could never be higher

Okay so now we've hired Phil, we have some direction

The top heavy part of the plan is older and the outside competition is getting younger-better

The top heavy part of the plan also took too much of the pie, to make it easier to execute the plan

I think Phil has a good sense of what it takes to win, he simply doesn't have the resources to accomplish peak results

We're probably better than we were 10yrs ago or so, but not too hard improving on a low benchmark

We need long sustaining success starting with and going beyond Phil and Melo's contractual tenure

I don't see it, I see another flash in the pan plan.

We never "built" around melo

aside from getting bargs

So Tyson-Smith-K-Mart weren't guys brought here to help Melo?

Let's agree their plan to build around him was awfully executed

How could we contend if we weren't building around anyone?

Were we building around your favorite, in Amare

Were we building around Amare when we brought in Melo? Of course not!

We can agree that whatever they did was awfully executed.

Overpaying for Tyson and wasting our amnesty while losing our only PG was not building, it was destroying.

Kmart is 90 and Smith is an idiot.

I guess it all depends what "building" is.

we had a system coach in d'antoni, and amare was an ideal player to fit that system-- the trouble was that they acquired felton.

so "building around" a player was not really the point.

then when dolan came in and decided he wanted melo in a knick uniform at any price, then bye-bye system, and hello "win-now"

lin came in and showed that a system could work, melo came back, then bye-bye d'antoni and eventually lin.

now we are back to instituting a system and we hope that an anti-system player is going to conform, comply, and excel.