dk7th wrote:MaTT4281 wrote:The Kardashian was a good addition, but Ariza to Pierce is a pretty decent downgrade right now.
The team will be as good as Wall lets them be.
no he isn't a downgrade he is a lateral move at worst. in fact where pierce's value comes in is in the playoffs as a superior halfcourt player to ariza. his defense is also underrated. wall and beal stand to learn a great deal from pierce. pierce plays with poise and is cluuutch. he just needs to have fresher legs come playoff time. his shot was flat last season in the postseason.
Totally disagree on this one, it really depends on which Ariza is the REAL Ariza
However, Pierce at his age is a shell of his former self
While he can still hit BIG shot's at times, he just cannot be relied on to contribute consistently
But with Wall/Beal/Nene/Gortat, he could possible be the 4th/5th option and that could really help him, just like it helped Ariza excel as a ROLE player
Ariza's value is in his versatility on OFF and DEF, because of his athleticism/length/ability to spread the floor and dribble to the rim and finish with contact
Pierce at his age now is far from this, however, it could also be that Ariza was playing for a contract it could also regress, especially playing with a PG like Wall, 2 mobile skilled BIG's in Gortat/Nene and a shooter like Beal that can put the ball on the floor and isn't selfish
Maybe I am biasist, I have been a HUGE Ariza fan the day he was drafted as a Knick, he just was never able to develop with the horrible lack of leaders/vets
I was always hoping we would one day be able to get back Ariza/Wilson Chandler/ and Lee because I believe these are B+ role players if in on the right system with the right talent around them with their versatility/skills, unfortunately another 4 years of Ariza and I doubt I would be interested in role with his age and lack of athleticisim to go with it
Add in
Seraphin
Humphries *great signing at risk and reward*
Blair *great signing at risk and reward*
Gooden great vet min player
Porter *showing potential on his 2nd year*
Webster *if recovers, if not stretch candidate*
Glen Rice JR *who I thought is the better pick to Tim Hardway JR at the time of the draft*, could take up after Ariza's OFF's ability to spread the floor though not the same defender
Andre Miller *stoppage back up PG*, I think they need to add in a another PG/SG that has the ability to play PG at a FAST PACE rather than just a backup up at Millers age despite his lack of injuries through out his entire career