Wiggins is the truth and will be Pippen to Lebron's Jordan. He already is committed to defense and with Lebron, Waiters, Irving he doesn't need to be a major scoring threat immediately making it easier on him. Perimeter defense with Wiggins and Lebron is going to be a nightmare and they can cover multiple positions freeing up Irving from any real defensive assignment.

Bennett looks like a high quality role player who could end up being a solid compliment to Lebron at the 3/4. Thompson fits in well with that rotation doing dirty work and attacking the glass.

Lebron covers for all of Irving weaknesses while Irving only has to be that needed second scoring option which he is over qualified for he can also really shoot it providing a nice compliment to Lebron to offensively.

Waiters same as Irving, with Lebron on the court Waiters can play either guard spot and focus on shooting open looks. Or they can move Waiters for other needs and slide Dellavedova up who will be just as good given the mins next to Lebron.

but I also think charlotte adding Lance is going to be good as well,

The hawks, bulls, the pacers will still be a factor...

we are playing catch up... I have no problem with that if we were doing so with young talent with upside, picks and cap space..

The east as a whole is gearing up..

Great coaches win championship more than talented rosters, Not to mention health and depth. The cavs will be a good regular season team, but make no mistake, there yrs away from winning a championship. Theres just not enough veterans on that team, and health has always been a concern when it comes to Kyrie.

knicks1248 wrote:The bulls run had more to do with phil,and the coaching staff. Don't get me wrong, MJ and pipen were so needed, but if phil wasn't there, they win one championship at best.

Great coaches win championship more than talented rosters, Not to mention health and depth. The cavs will be a good regular season team, but make no mistake, there yrs away from winning a championship. Theres just not enough veterans on that team, and health has always been a concern when it comes to Kyrie.

Always great if you have an intelligent player like James on the floor.

You look at players like Bird, Magic, Jordan, and others, and you realize that these guys are like coaches on the floor. They would get in the face of their own guys if they had to. I think Fisher was even a little like that at times- perhaps a bit more diplomatic.

Their new coach is supposed to be an offensive guru. If he has a good defensive assistant, and James is on board, I would think everything else will fall into place.

fishmike wrote:

tkf wrote:they are going to be really, good..

but I also think charlotte adding Lance is going to be good as well,

The hawks, bulls, the pacers will still be a factor...

we are playing catch up... I have no problem with that if we were doing so with young talent with upside, picks and cap space..

The east as a whole is gearing up..

so as Phil has only added young guys, had a good draft, has a #1 next year and with no additional moves a minimum of $20mm plus in cap space you must be thrilled.

For this year not so much.

If we take a look around the league there are teams in greater positions to strike much the same

Not many are interested in a stat padding season from a couple players, while we plummet towards the basement only landing on the 4th step of 18.

I want to be in the basement, on the walls, collecting mold if we're going to lose(extremely likely)

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:The bulls run had more to do with phil,and the coaching staff. Don't get me wrong, MJ and pipen were so needed, but if phil wasn't there, they win one championship at best.

Great coaches win championship more than talented rosters, Not to mention health and depth. The cavs will be a good regular season team, but make no mistake, there yrs away from winning a championship. Theres just not enough veterans on that team, and health has always been a concern when it comes to Kyrie.

Always great if you have an intelligent player like James on the floor.

You look at players like Bird, Magic, Jordan, and others, and you realize that these guys are like coaches on the floor. They would get in the face of their own guys if they had to. I think Fisher was even a little like that at times- perhaps a bit more diplomatic.

Their new coach is supposed to be an offensive guru. If he has a good defensive assistant, and James is on board, I would think everything else will fall into place.

I have to see it to believe it,

knicks1248 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

tkf wrote:they are going to be really, good..

but I also think charlotte adding Lance is going to be good as well,

The hawks, bulls, the pacers will still be a factor...

we are playing catch up... I have no problem with that if we were doing so with young talent with upside, picks and cap space..

The east as a whole is gearing up..

It is imperative that we keep half the roster with youth, its the only way we have a chance. We have to hit big on at least 1 kid and hope we can get solid help out of 2 or 3 more. Only way to balance out Car-Money

Half the roster filled with youth, are you kidding me?? was the spurs roster half way filled with yutes, what about miami, dallas, boston, lakers, houston.

You need 1 or 2 quality youngins in your rotation, thats it, anymore and your a first round exit at best.

Do Knick fans really think Marc Gasol, Caledron and Melo making 53 million out of 66 million dollar projected cap is going to win an NBA title? Unless the Knicks hit on a young star making next to nothing they arent competing for championships they will be competing for 5 seeds

Why do u think the Cavs situation was so attractive for Lebron? They will have room for another max player plus multiple high pick players on rookie deals. They will have a an All Star core and the Bird rights of #1 picks waiting in the wings.

CrushAlot wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

tkf wrote:they are going to be really, good..

but I also think charlotte adding Lance is going to be good as well,

The hawks, bulls, the pacers will still be a factor...

we are playing catch up... I have no problem with that if we were doing so with young talent with upside, picks and cap space..

The east as a whole is gearing up..

It is imperative that we keep half the roster with youth, its the only way we have a chance. We have to hit big on at least 1 kid and hope we can get solid help out of 2 or 3 more. Only way to balance out Car-Money

Half the roster filled with youth, are you kidding me?? was the spurs roster half way filled with yutes, what about miami, dallas, boston, lakers, houston.

You need 1 or 2 quality youngins in your rotation, thats it, anymore and your a first round exit at best.

No im not kidding, the Knicks have to that many so they can find the tony Parker , Ginobli, and Duncan yes the Spurs have them now but where the hell do you think they came from. Miami is a unique situation where they landed the best player in the NBA but they also already had Wade who was top 5 at the time, Lebron can make every situation work but he isnt on the Knicks roster and he never will be. Dallas Nowitzi, Boston Pierce, Lakers Kobe. In case you havent noticed all those teams developed at least 1 superstar themselves.

Do Knick fans really think Marc Gasol, Caledron and Melo making 53 million out of 66 million dollar projected cap is going to win an NBA title? Unless the Knicks hit on a young star making next to nothing they arent competing for championships they will be competing for 5 seeds

Why do u think the Cavs situation was so attractive for Lebron? They will have room for another max player plus multiple high pick players on rookie deals. They will have a an All Star core and the Bird rights of #1 picks waiting in the wings

Free agents want to play with other stars but they also want to get paid. During Melo's tenure the Knicks have only had the 3.6 exception to work with. Next offseason will be the first that the Knicks have a star and cap space. I don't think players consider home grown talent as a criteria for where they choose to go. I think they just want to play with another really good player. The Knicks have to hope that they can be like the teams you mentioned that had a star and were able to acquire a second and in some cases a third. In regards to having half the roster with youth I don't think that translates to success. Yes you have to develop youth and pick smart but the really good teams are able to get really good vets on value contracts because those guys want to compete for a championship. The Knicks unless Melo misses all of next year with an injury are not going to luck into a situation like the spurs did and they don't have the picks to get anything more than guys that might make the rotation.

It may depend on the star
It may depend on the money
It may depend on the roster
It may depend on ability to win
It may depend on all of the above

The Lakers, Heat, Rockets didn't really capitalize to the degree you'd think they could for various reasons

The Mavs, Hornets, Bulls, Pelicans did fairly decent and a couple teams here would have been thought of as not prime destinations

Some players may end up being turned off by guys like Kobe and Melo but we'll see soon enough.