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callmened
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7/1/2014  9:20 AM
according to Alex Kennedy from Wash post
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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7/1/2014  9:29 AM
He is kind of a Taj Gibson lite minus the blks and explosiveness. A pretty good off the bench defensive big that can score some and board the ball too. Who knows with a little bigger role he might blossom some more.
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7/1/2014  9:31 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/1/2014  9:52 AM
While I like Booker's game, he has been hurt for the past 2 seasons

I really like Jamalle Hagins who I think is comparable to Booker/Kmart/Dejuan Blair
He not only is a LEGIT POST presence *which is very much needed in the Triangle*, has great mobility, decent athleticism/size, but also has a good all round game, high IQ, 2 way player, and is versatile

Either way, I would not be upset with any of those players but feel Hagins's YOUTH brings a bit more to the table but Booker isn't exactly old either, just been hurt, and Hagins also would be much cheaper with the ability to have leverage on him with unguaranteed TEAM OPTIONS on him, where as Booker would be taking "less" on a vet min contract

Dante Cunningham is another player at the F spot

I also like Darko Milicic as a rotational C for a 2 year vet min, partial guarantee deal *though would not offer him a contract till this CA thing clears up*
IF HE has been continuing on working hard to come back in the NBA, staying in shape, and training hard, I think he would be a good fit in the Triangle because he actually has the ability to do a bit of everything

I have always been a fan of James Johnson as well, as a SF, with the ability to be a LEGIT SF/PF, that I think would help the development of our draft picks
He was a lottery pick and played for Thib's for 2 years, was a journey man that will work hard, is a good defender with legit size/length/and good average athleticism with youth, and not take anything for granted, qualities we would like as we are looking to "build a winning culture"

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7/1/2014  9:34 AM
Is Millic coming back to the nba?
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7/1/2014  9:50 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/1/2014  9:51 AM
Don't know, but prior to him signing with the Celtic's before he asked to be released so he can go home to take care of his sick mother, he was training/work very hard to get back in the NBA
He earned praise with Paul Pierce, calling him "Very HIGH IQ and skilled"

With Darko, I feel his skills would FIT well within the triangle and the NYK's basically only having the vet min to offer

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7/1/2014  10:14 AM
RonRon wrote:Don't know, but prior to him signing with the Celtic's before he asked to be released so he can go home to take care of his sick mother, he was training/work very hard to get back in the NBA
He earned praise with Paul Pierce, calling him "Very HIGH IQ and skilled"

With Darko, I feel his skills would FIT well within the triangle and the NYK's basically only having the vet min to offer

I agree. I think Darko would be a good fit. I will google him later and see if there are any rumors.
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7/1/2014  10:31 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/1/2014  10:35 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
RonRon wrote:Don't know, but prior to him signing with the Celtic's before he asked to be released so he can go home to take care of his sick mother, he was training/work very hard to get back in the NBA
He earned praise with Paul Pierce, calling him "Very HIGH IQ and skilled"

With Darko, I feel his skills would FIT well within the triangle and the NYK's basically only having the vet min to offer

I agree. I think Darko would be a good fit. I will google him later and see if there are any rumors.


You have been the first to NOT BASH me, instead agreeing that it could be a possible "fit"
Many don't even bother doing the homework and youtubing/googling him and watch his highlights, before making the assumption once his name is even mentioned
I don't think Darko will ever live up to being pick 2nd, however, he isn't a Kwame Brown or Adam Morrison either

Will he become the Sam Bowie 2.0?

or

Will he do his work on and off the court, to reestablish himself in the NBA?
He was working HARD with his trainer just a bit over a year ago and doesn't have the NBA mileage or injuries either
Darko simply has a NBA body and if given a chance, with some hard work, I believe can become a serviceable rotation player at PF/C (mainly Center) who has skills/abilities for a 7 footer
Now for a 7 footer that has his mobility, size, athleticism, and ready body/experience in NBA as a Twolves Starter for 2-3 years (proven to be effective when given the minutes), what more can we ask for with just the VET MIN to offer for the risk/reward (he isn't like Bynum/Oden who has multiple injuries/red flags, while taking a NBA beating in their earlier years

Rebound
Block Shots
Post Presence
12 Foot jumper
Ability to initiate and Offense
Mobile/athletic/and Legit size/strength
Still relatively YOUNG with upside

Actually is a GOOD PASSING Center with HIGH IQ *a great FIT in the Triangle with the Low or Mid Post* Throw in Rasheed Wallace type of development coach to bring out some toughness in him and see what happens, especially since we have leverage with him having NO VALUE in the NBA, he would sign for a 2 year, unguaranteed/team option deal, if it doesn't work out, CUT HIM, if he does, he could be a STEAL and be part of our future, stop gap player, or even an asset

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7/1/2014  1:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/1/2014  2:37 PM
Just my 2 cents on beefing up the frontline w/o getting carried away in stuff that's not reasonable --

Sign Cole Aldrich -- if we can get him for his minimum, great. Straight up steal. If not, say it requires a portion of the mini-MLE, I'd do that too. He's great value even at that price. Dude would be my starting C next year and a guy I'd feel pretty confident that I could get at least 10/10 and 3 blks per out of. And he didn't even look in tip top shape to me too btw. I think we could expect even a little more if he got himself back in top shape...If he gets an offer that we can't touch ($4mm or more per say), no problem, we turn the page. Offering this guy the starting C spot and 30 mins a night might get him to stay even if he gets slightly better offers somewhere else. Just again for the record -- we're ABSOLUTELY OUT OF OUR MINDS if we don't show any interest in bringing Cole Aldrich back. If Phil's not familiar with what he did for us, then someone needs to sit him down and show him the tape!

Sign Daniel Orton to back up Aldrich. He's on Washington's SL team and should've been on ours. Dude plays bigger than Jeremy Tyler, is younger, stronger and has more upside. Unlike Tyler, this guy's more of a legit C and feels more capable to me in the following categories: scoring, shooting, rebounding, clogging the lane, shot-blocking.

There's always C Marcus Cousin who's an active 7 footer who rebounds, runs the floor and possesses a real nice offensive game that features a dead-eye jump-shot out to about 20'. I know, this guy's beyond a longshot but I know he can play. I will never stop mentioning this guys name until he finally makes the NBA and is given a chance to show his stuff.

Sign Richard Howell as a backup 4 -- his game is identical to DeJuan Blair's. About the same size (Howell's an inch or 2 bigger), strong as an ox, very good rebounder and he's got a nice little offensive game around the basket out to about 15'. I like this guy to take over the K-Mart and/or Tyler roles.. He's DeJuan Blair with all his knee cartilage intact. Just as good a player as Trevor Booker, better imho, and he wouldn't cost as much.

Another thing I keep going back to is finding a way to get C Jeff Withey from New Orleans. I think this guy would be a great fit here. Big rim-protector who's young, agile and surprisingly skilled...Aldrich/Withey in the middle would be awesome. And if we could find a way to pry Withey and SF Luke Babbitt away from the Hornets in the same deal, all the better. I really like both players a lot. I feel Withey may be expendable now that they added Asik, plus they'd still have Alexis Ajinca around who has good upside...Coming up with a trade that makes sense for the Hornets is the problem. We have a glut of guards but so do they. Would they be interested in Cleanthony Early maybe? I like Early but if I could get them to do something like Early/a future 2nd rounder for Withey/Babbitt, I do that deal. I then turn around and sign 6'9" 220 SF Devin Ebanks to replace Early. Babbitt/Ebanks isn't Carmelo Anthony, I understand that, but it's 2 good young pieces to develop and grow at the SF position, just as good if not better than Early imho..

Again, our easiest/most realistic options for frontcourt impact: resign Cole Aldrich; sign Orton and Howell. All doable and realistic...

Up to me, all of our FA cap money (either the mini or full MLE, whichever we have available) would go to Jerryd Bayless and if need be, Cole Aldrich (something tells me this guy could still be had at his 5-yr vet minimum depending how we spoke to him and handled him -- i.e. promise to start, big minutes, to be taken care of better a year from now when we'll have cap room AND he'll have his early Bird rights, etc.. We'll see). I'd then piece together the rest smartly with minimum contracts (6'8" PF Rich Howell, maybe SF Devin Ebanks if I moved Early, maybe a Terrence Williams if I moved out some of our surplus 2Gs for something else that made sense, etc.).

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7/1/2014  1:09 PM
It sounds like Booker is going to get more money than the Knicks have to spend.
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7/1/2014  2:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/1/2014  2:44 PM
Question for you guys --

Can any part of the MLE (assuming there's an amount left over) be combined with a vet minimum contract offer? Example - Let's say we offered a guy like Jerryd Bayless a contract starting at $3mm in year 1.. If we only have about $3.4mm to use total (or whatever the mini mid level amount is, not sure), can the leftover 400k be combined in addition to a vet minimum offer for Cole Aldrich? I would think not but would like confirmation. Thanks.

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7/1/2014  2:50 PM
Finestrg wrote:Question for you guys --

Can any part of the MLE (assuming there's an amount left over) be combined with a vet minimum contract offer? Example - Let's say we offered a guy like Jerryd Bayless a contract starting at $3mm in year 1.. If we only have about $3.4mm to use total (or whatever the mini mid level amount is, not sure), can the leftover 400k be combined in addition to a vet minimum offer for Cole Aldrich? I would think not but would like confirmation. Thanks.

no it can not be combined but Cole ca receive a 120% raise of his last contract.

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7/1/2014  2:55 PM
damn...phil really going for it.

watch out fort wayne mad ants...the knicks are coming for that d-league championship!!!

this upcoming season seems to have all the makings of a tanktascular spectacle...

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7/1/2014  3:10 PM
djsunyc wrote:damn...phil really going for it.

watch out fort wayne mad ants...the knicks are coming for that d-league championship!!!

this upcoming season seems to have all the makings of a tanktascular spectacle...


What's the deal with Vasquez. The Raps bringing him back or do they need to clear more space for Brazilian Durant?
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7/1/2014  3:14 PM
Don't think that we have a legit chance at booker but nice try
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/1/2014  3:30 PM
Darko's dark Zen:

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7/1/2014  8:16 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
djsunyc wrote:damn...phil really going for it.

watch out fort wayne mad ants...the knicks are coming for that d-league championship!!!

this upcoming season seems to have all the makings of a tanktascular spectacle...


What's the deal with Vasquez. The Raps bringing him back or do they need to clear more space for Brazilian Durant?

waiting on lowry first. see what he wants to do. they gave general vasquez the QO so he may just re-sign for the one year and then get an extension later. vasquez has been all over toronto press saying how much he loves the raptors and wants to stay.

but right now, i have no clue what's gonna happen with lowry + gv + patterson.

when your son is wearing a cabolco jersey in 2027...don't say i didn't warn you :)

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7/1/2014  8:39 PM
RonRon wrote:Don't know, but prior to him signing with the Celtic's before he asked to be released so he can go home to take care of his sick mother, he was training/work very hard to get back in the NBA
He earned praise with Paul Pierce, calling him "Very HIGH IQ and skilled"

With Darko, I feel his skills would FIT well within the triangle and the NYK's basically only having the vet min to offer

you lost me when once you mentioned Darko. Guys one must ALWAYS take into account intangibles. Yes he might have the physical skills but after a while (10yrs) its safe to conclude that he just isnt that good. Lack of motivation, hunger or whatever. dude should NEVER be talked about lol.

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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7/1/2014  8:40 PM
im a big fan of withey and now that asik is there he may be available.

i have been a big fan of dante cunningham for a while. but anyone who beats women is trash to me

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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