Why??????

Oh right The Knicks are morons and can't think past a few seasons

Caseloads wrote:Sell the Lakers, who have Cap room, on trading for a one year rental of Amaer (or Bargs), plus Shumpert for cap space. The knicks would be under the cap, could sign lebaron and melo.

The lakers would keep their 2015 plan intact plus have Amaer to pair with Kobe, plus Shump to work and train under kobe.

Dude, do some research before you post stuff like this.

NardDogNation wrote:I brought this point up before but maybe we could create cap space through a combination of salary dumps and the use of the stretch provision. Our payroll currently stands at $90 million for next season and the cap is at $63 million. Considering that none of our contracts are long-term (most only have a year left on them), maybe we could pull it off. Here's how we could do it.

1.) Trade JR Smith, Pablo Prigioni and Raymond Felton to the Nets, who send Marcus Thornton to the Jazz, who in turn provide us with a $12 million trade exception. Our payroll would then be at $78 million.

2.) Trade Amare Stoudemire to the Celtics for Gerald Wallace, Keith Bogan's non-guaranteed deal and a $6 million trade exception. We could then waive Bogan's contract set at $5 million, resulting in an $11 million purge, overall. Our payroll would then be at $67 million.

3.) Melo opts out, taking us down to $47 million.

4.) Trade Tyson Chandler and Gerald Wallace to the Mavericks for a $25 million trade exception. Our payroll now stands at $22 million.

5.) Trade Andrea Bargnani and $2 million to the Pistons for Jonas Jerebko and a $6 million trade exception. Our payroll now stands at $16 million.

6.) Trade Iman Shumpert and $1 million to the Thunder for the 21st and 29th picks. Our payroll would then stand at $15 million (factoring in a $2 million cap hold for the draft picks).

With a payroll at only $15 million, we'd have a cap hold for 8 vacant roster spots totaling $4 million, which would bump our payroll to $19 million. In spite of that adjustment, we would have $44 million to work with, which should be enough to sign LeBron and Anthony albeit not much else. We'd still have a $3 million to work with after reaching the cap and about $10 million to work with in 2015. I think that we could expect a reasonable upgrade, especially with a draft pick to work with.

Amear to lakers would be a one year rental. Amear is serviceable. Lakers always had 2015 in mind, not 2014.

Fugggggat-about it

When he opt out also gives the longterm reasons NY is out of picture

Forget Lebron
We need picks and get our own special players 2015-2018 next seasons forthcoming

NardDogNation wrote:I brought this point up before but maybe we could create cap space through a combination of salary dumps and the use of the stretch provision. Our payroll currently stands at $90 million for next season and the cap is at $63 million. Considering that none of our contracts are long-term (most only have a year left on them), maybe we could pull it off. Here's how we could do it.

1.) Trade JR Smith, Pablo Prigioni and Raymond Felton to the Nets, who send Marcus Thornton to the Jazz, who in turn provide us with a $12 million trade exception. Our payroll would then be at $78 million.

2.) Trade Amare Stoudemire to the Celtics for Gerald Wallace, Keith Bogan's non-guaranteed deal and a $6 million trade exception. We could then waive Bogan's contract set at $5 million, resulting in an $11 million purge, overall. Our payroll would then be at $67 million.

3.) Melo opts out, taking us down to $47 million.

4.) Trade Tyson Chandler and Gerald Wallace to the Mavericks for a $25 million trade exception. Our payroll now stands at $22 million.

5.) Trade Andrea Bargnani and $2 million to the Pistons for Jonas Jerebko and a $6 million trade exception. Our payroll now stands at $16 million.

6.) Trade Iman Shumpert and $1 million to the Thunder for the 21st and 29th picks. Our payroll would then stand at $15 million (factoring in a $2 million cap hold for the draft picks).

With a payroll at only $15 million, we'd have a cap hold for 8 vacant roster spots totaling $4 million, which would bump our payroll to $19 million. In spite of that adjustment, we would have $44 million to work with, which should be enough to sign LeBron and Anthony albeit not much else. We'd still have a $3 million to work with after reaching the cap and about $10 million to work with in 2015. I think that we could expect a reasonable upgrade, especially with a draft pick to work with.

NardDog, look at this list, virtually all these teams get NOTHING but get worst because they have the ability to do so, while not getting compensated for it, and tell me

1- why Utah does this deal

2- Why the hell would Mavs take Chandler and Gereld Wallace's contract together for a TRADE EXEMPTION, without giving back contracts????
While this move will not only cost them the ability to chase FA's but also lose Dirk's bird rights as well

5- AB why the hell would they want another PF/C in addition to the problems they already have with finding the minutes, in addition to wasting their cap space without getting anhthing out of it

6- Iman Shumpert for 2 1st round picks in a deep draft? Really?

These teams do not serve us and owe us any favors to try to reduce salary for us for no reasons, you make trades to get better for the present or for the future
This is just one post you made recently, you make many unrealistic trades

Don't get offended, I am not attacking you per say, but it is really unrealistic

btw, you remind me of someone that was banned a year or 2 ago

RonRon wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I brought this point up before but maybe we could create cap space through a combination of salary dumps and the use of the stretch provision. Our payroll currently stands at $90 million for next season and the cap is at $63 million. Considering that none of our contracts are long-term (most only have a year left on them), maybe we could pull it off. Here's how we could do it.

1.) Trade JR Smith, Pablo Prigioni and Raymond Felton to the Nets, who send Marcus Thornton to the Jazz, who in turn provide us with a $12 million trade exception. Our payroll would then be at $78 million.

2.) Trade Amare Stoudemire to the Celtics for Gerald Wallace, Keith Bogan's non-guaranteed deal and a $6 million trade exception. We could then waive Bogan's contract set at $5 million, resulting in an $11 million purge, overall. Our payroll would then be at $67 million.

3.) Melo opts out, taking us down to $47 million.

4.) Trade Tyson Chandler and Gerald Wallace to the Mavericks for a $25 million trade exception. Our payroll now stands at $22 million.

5.) Trade Andrea Bargnani and $2 million to the Pistons for Jonas Jerebko and a $6 million trade exception. Our payroll now stands at $16 million.

6.) Trade Iman Shumpert and $1 million to the Thunder for the 21st and 29th picks. Our payroll would then stand at $15 million (factoring in a $2 million cap hold for the draft picks).

With a payroll at only $15 million, we'd have a cap hold for 8 vacant roster spots totaling $4 million, which would bump our payroll to $19 million. In spite of that adjustment, we would have $44 million to work with, which should be enough to sign LeBron and Anthony albeit not much else. We'd still have a $3 million to work with after reaching the cap and about $10 million to work with in 2015. I think that we could expect a reasonable upgrade, especially with a draft pick to work with.

NardDog, look at this list, virtually all these teams get NOTHING but get worst because they have the ability to do so, while not getting compensated for it, and tell me

1- why Utah does this deal

2- Why the hell would Mavs take Chandler and Gereld Wallace's contract together for a TRADE EXEMPTION, without giving back contracts????
While this move will not only cost them the ability to chase FA's but also lose Dirk's bird rights as well

5- AB why the hell would they want another PF/C in addition to the problems they already have with finding the minutes, in addition to wasting their cap space without getting anhthing out of it

6- Iman Shumpert for 2 1st round picks in a deep draft? Really?

These teams do not serve us and owe us any favors to try to reduce salary for us for no reasons, you make trades to get better for the present or for the future
This is just one post you made recently, you make many unrealistic trades

Don't get offended, I am not attacking you per say, but it is really unrealistic

btw, you remind me of someone that was banned a year or 2 ago

1.)Utah does the deal because they need warm bodies and a minimum of $50 million or so in contracts. They might have a problem meeting that threshold because most of their players are on rookie contracts. So why not take a one year filler on Thornton, who fills a position of need?

2.) The Mavs just took Tyson Chandler and you're asking me that? They could've kept the rest of the "legendary haul" we acquired if they assumed the extra $7 million that Gerald Wallace had on his contract than Felton. Seems fair considering all the "assets" they gave up, right? And you're wrong, they wouldn't lose Nowitzki's Bird Rights. Just do the math.

5.) The Bargnani trade is a bit out there because the Pistons would assume so much more money. But from a player standpoint, I think he's a clear upgrade over Jerebko as the 6th man big. And for what it's worth, the Kings were reportedly working toward a trade for Josh Smith, so I was presuming that he was not going to be a Piston beyond this offseason.

6.) I think Shumpert's only a role player but the Thunder expressed interest in trading him for a pick...it's not unreasonable to presume that you could throw money at them for the 2nd pick. The Thunder already have more than enough young players, so I doubt they'd have any interest in adding more guaranteed money for players that won't get any real time (see Andre Roberson and Perry Jones III).

And quite honestly, I don't care what you think either way. This is all for fun. Besides, it's not like I'm posting threads about the Knicks acquiring Tim Duncan and Greg Popovich or something.