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6/20/2014  11:35 AM
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

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6/20/2014  11:38 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/20/2014  11:39 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

I like your optimism but i dont think they fit well together or have ever fit. i mena we have been hearing "this is the year melo/amare domiante" for almost 4 years and it hasne happened. Next year most likely will be a transition year so we can get cap space and try again in 2015
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6/20/2014  12:04 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

I like your optimism but i dont think they fit well together or have ever fit. i mena we have been hearing "this is the year melo/amare domiante" for almost 4 years and it hasne happened. Next year most likely will be a transition year so we can get cap space and try again in 2015

amare and carmelo don't fit and they are not taking anything by storm. That is extreme optimism..but whatever...

I like amare and I want him to do well. His knees have betrayed him, but I think most expected this to happen, just not so soon. He has to find a way to reinvent himself. During some brief stints last year he showed some explosiveness and still has the ability to score in the paint. I am really getting a bit tired of hearing him talk about getting back to dominating. I don't think that is realistic. i would just like to see him healthy and consistently contribute and I think that is something he can still do for this team, albeit in a limited role.

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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6/20/2014  12:09 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

I like your optimism but i dont think they fit well together or have ever fit. i mena we have been hearing "this is the year melo/amare domiante" for almost 4 years and it hasne happened. Next year most likely will be a transition year so we can get cap space and try again in 2015

No reason these 2 can't co exist and be successful

ES
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6/20/2014  12:15 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

I like your optimism but i dont think they fit well together or have ever fit. i mena we have been hearing "this is the year melo/amare domiante" for almost 4 years and it hasne happened. Next year most likely will be a transition year so we can get cap space and try again in 2015

No reason these 2 can't co exist and be successful

I doubt we can pull of that kind of S&T of Melo and include Amar'e to the same team, but wow if we could

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6/20/2014  12:51 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

they are the core of a "clumsy roster." no way they should be on the floor together.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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6/20/2014  1:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/20/2014  1:59 PM
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

they are the core of a "clumsy roster." no way they should be on the floor together.

maybe you should look at the triangle system again

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6/20/2014  1:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/20/2014  1:56 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

I like your optimism but i dont think they fit well together or have ever fit. i mena we have been hearing "this is the year melo/amare domiante" for almost 4 years and it hasne happened. Next year most likely will be a transition year so we can get cap space and try again in 2015

No reason these 2 can't co exist and be successful

Against i respect your optimism BUT have to be realistic. It simply hasnt worked out its not a bad thing to move on
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6/20/2014  2:05 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

I like your optimism but i dont think they fit well together or have ever fit. i mena we have been hearing "this is the year melo/amare domiante" for almost 4 years and it hasne happened. Next year most likely will be a transition year so we can get cap space and try again in 2015

No reason these 2 can't co exist and be successful

Against i respect your optimism BUT have to be realistic. It simply hasnt worked out its not a bad thing to move on


Under woodson the only thing that work was pass the ball to melo, please don't get it twisted, we had no game plan 85% of the time, Just Iso, 3's, iso, 3's, jumpers..Fake ass system was gross to watch

Not to mention they played less the 25 games together for any real length of time, and Never had a training camp together.

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6/20/2014  2:12 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

I like your optimism but i dont think they fit well together or have ever fit. i mena we have been hearing "this is the year melo/amare domiante" for almost 4 years and it hasne happened. Next year most likely will be a transition year so we can get cap space and try again in 2015

No reason these 2 can't co exist and be successful

Against i respect your optimism BUT have to be realistic. It simply hasnt worked out its not a bad thing to move on


Under woodson the only thing that work was pass the ball to melo, please don't get it twisted, we had no game plan 85% of the time, Just Iso, 3's, iso, 3's, jumpers..Fake ass system was gross to watch

Not to mention they played less the 25 games together for any real length of time, and Never had a training camp together.

Again i really do respect your optimism because it shows you are a passionate fan but they simply dont fit together no matter the injuries they ahve had plenty of time together it just doenst fit well because bith are below average defenders and both need the ball. Plus Melo is probably gone anyway and the only reason Amare is still here is ebcause he knew by opting out he would lose millions(believe me the knicks would ahve loved for him to opt out)
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6/20/2014  2:22 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

they are the core of a "clumsy roster." no way they should be on the floor together.

maybe you should look at the triangle system again

trust me i have given this plenty of thought. but where do you see stoudemire playing in the triangle? or melo?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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6/20/2014  2:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/20/2014  2:35 PM
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

they are the core of a "clumsy roster." no way they should be on the floor together.

maybe you should look at the triangle system again

trust me i have given this plenty of thought. but where do you see stoudemire playing in the triangle? or melo?

the same way horace grant, and gasol did, the mid range jumper is always their for a PF in the triangle

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6/20/2014  2:38 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

they are the core of a "clumsy roster." no way they should be on the floor together.

maybe you should look at the triangle system again

trust me i have given this plenty of thought. but where do you see stoudemire playing in the triangle? or melo?

the same way horace grant, and gasol did, the mid range jumper is always their for a PF in the triangle

On paper - I agree that Melo and Amar'e should be able to co-exist like Horace Grant & Jordan, or Gasol & Kobe.

But on paper, Bargs should have helped us more last year than he did, even when healthy. On paper, losing Jason Kidd should not have hurt as much as it may have.

There is on paper - and I agree with you- but there's fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice or thrice, shame on me!

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6/20/2014  2:48 PM
franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

they are the core of a "clumsy roster." no way they should be on the floor together.

maybe you should look at the triangle system again

trust me i have given this plenty of thought. but where do you see stoudemire playing in the triangle? or melo?

the same way horace grant, and gasol did, the mid range jumper is always their for a PF in the triangle

On paper - I agree that Melo and Amar'e should be able to co-exist like Horace Grant & Jordan, or Gasol & Kobe.

But on paper, Bargs should have helped us more last year than he did, even when healthy. On paper, losing Jason Kidd should not have hurt as much as it may have.

There is on paper - and I agree with you- but there's fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice or thrice, shame on me!

totally agree and that is why despite the fact that the NBA is a player's league coaches still make $5mm a year, to figure those things out. Its Fisher's job to put those guys in a spot where they can help the team.

Look at the Knicks. Focus on these players:
Amare, THjr, Shump, JR, Bargs, Tyson

6 rotation guys who you have absolutley no clue what your getting from them. All could play meaningful roles. All can impact games. All can also be total non factors for a variety of reasons. Fisher has a lot of figuring out to do, and not of it all bad.

I always root hard for Amare. Fingers crossed.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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6/20/2014  2:52 PM
Have to admire Stat's heart, the man never gives up, but at this point he should focus on being just reliable.
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6/20/2014  8:11 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

they are the core of a "clumsy roster." no way they should be on the floor together.

maybe you should look at the triangle system again

trust me i have given this plenty of thought. but where do you see stoudemire playing in the triangle? or melo?

the same way horace grant, and gasol did, the mid range jumper is always their for a PF in the triangle

you have to be able to pass the ball in the triangle. stoudemire does not see the court, does not pass well, and he sure as hell can't play with his back to the basket. his lower body is weak so he can be pushed off the post fairly easily.

where does melo fit? please don't tell me you envision him in the jordan/bryant role.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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6/20/2014  8:16 PM
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Amar'e Stoudemire’s goal for next season is simple.

Stoudemire's Place


Amar'e Stoudemire is no stranger to adversity, but he's also one of the
all-time Knicks. Where does he rank?
ESPN NY's Top 25 Knicks Photo Gallery Vote

He wants to get back to being a dominant player.

“My goal next year is to have an All-Star caliber year to get back in the All-Star Game,” Stoudemire said recently on ESPN radio’s “Mike and Mike.” “And then be a great team player for my teammates in addition to contending for a championship.”

If Stoudemire does that, Derek Fisher will be a very happy man. Fisher needs to maximize what he has on the Knicks roster knowing that Phil Jackson probably won't make significant upgrades until 2015. So that means the Knicks will need help from what they already got.

Stoudemire played in 65 games this past season, averaging 11.9 points and 4.9 rebounds. Mike Woodson had Stoudemire start the season cautiously on a minutes restriction to preserve his knees.

SportsNation
Will Amar'e Stoudemire make the All-Star team next season?

36%
Yes
64%
No
Discuss (Total votes: 211)
Stoudemire came on strong toward the end of the season. He averaged 16.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in the month of March.

If Stoudemire can come close to those numbers and play 60 or more games again this coming season, that would be a nice bonus for Fisher’s squad. It remains to be seen how the first-year coach will utilize Stoudemire and how he will rest the power forward as well.

Stoudemire believes he will improve on last season just based on the fact that he can concentrate on improving his game this offseason as opposed to spending most of his time rehabbing.

The Knicks will need somebody to be an inside presence to go along with Carmelo Anthony, provided Anthony returns, and Stoudemire believes he can be a force again.

“My focus is at a high level right now,” Stoudemire said. “My body feels great and I’m out to prove the doubters wrong.”


I pulling for Amare big time, I hope this is the season where him and melo take NY by storm

they are the core of a "clumsy roster." no way they should be on the floor together.

maybe you should look at the triangle system again

trust me i have given this plenty of thought. but where do you see stoudemire playing in the triangle? or melo?

the same way horace grant, and gasol did, the mid range jumper is always their for a PF in the triangle

you have to be able to pass the ball in the triangle. stoudemire does not see the court, does not pass well, and he sure as hell can't play with his back to the basket. his lower body is weak so he can be pushed off the post fairly easily.

where does melo fit? please don't tell me you envision him in the jordan/bryant role.

Playing with his back to the basket is pretty much all he has done the last two years. His passing sucks but scoring in post ups is probably where most his points come from.

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First i hear Amare is a Iso guy who needs the ball all the time, then i hear Amare needs a PG like nash or the 2010 felton.

I don't see how a guy who can finish around the rim, and hit mid range jumpers can be a problem in any system. I could definitely relate to the defensive side of things.

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6/20/2014  8:22 PM
knicks1248 wrote:First i hear Amare is a Iso guy who needs the ball all the time, then i hear Amare needs a PG like nash or the 2010 felton.

I don't see how a guy who can finish around the rim, and hit mid range jumpers can be a problem in any system. I could definitely relate to the defensive side of things.

offensively he works in most systems when it comes to scoring but the problem is that when he isn;t scoring he brings almost nothing to the table. Amar'e has done a good job reinventing himself and hopefully he will learn to pass under phil and his knee issues are over. If he was healthy and getting 5M a year people would probably praise him like he was Scola or someone like that.

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3 of the main reason I like what Amare brings

1)He gets to the line, he was 2nd on the team in FT's made and attempt despite being 8th in mins played. His main attribute is finishing around the rim (thats why he's so efficient), so im not sure why some here say he should pass more.

2)He Will buy in to any coaches system, thats very important.

3)He's a high character guy, and solid teammate, works hard, willing to learn, I mean the list of positves is way longer than the list of negatives.

Injuries & Defense, and those 2 negatives pretty much trumps all of his positives.

Maybe some of you should take a hard look around the league, BIG MEN ARE PREMIUM in today's NBA, and almost none of them are consistent, most are all face up big men, in fact I can't really think of one dominate PF in the damn league.

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