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6/14/2014  12:35 PM

New York Knicks star Carmelo Anthony is leaning toward leaving in pursuit of immediate championship contention, and awaits the Chicago Bulls and Houston Rockets to clear the necessary salary-cap space to sign him in free agency, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

As re-signing with the Knicks continues to fade as his priority, Chicago and Houston have emerged as the clear frontrunners to acquire Anthony, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Anthony's meeting with Knicks officials on Friday night had little impact on his state of mind, league sources said, because there remain too many uncertainties about how quickly president Phil Jackson can reshape the team into a championship contender.

Chicago and Houston front-office executives are working diligently on contingencies to clear the space to sign Anthony outright – or engage sign-and-trade scenarios with New York, sources said.

"His heart is in New York," one source familiar with Anthony's thinking told Yahoo Sports, "but he wants a chance to win now."

Jackson has turned off Anthony with his public proclamations of wanting the seven-time All-Star forward to take less money to stay with New York, league sources said.

Around Anthony and the NBA, there's some doubt about whether Jackson truly wants to keep him on a five-year, $120 million-plus extension, or simply is giving the appearance for public relations' sake. Jackson has been somewhat cavalier in his public declarations of wanting Anthony to stay, and it's been noticed.

Anthony has said he's willing to take less than the maximum-allowable contract, but league sources said that involves situations where he can be shown how his financial concessions can result in the immediate acquisition or retention of talent. Anthony hasn't expressed interest in taking less for hypothetical signings in 2015 or '16, as New York wants him to do, sources said.

Anthony isn't as concerned over a novice head coach in Derek Fisher as he is a roster barren of assets and talent to move toward contention.

Anthony, 30, has been intrigued with the chance to join the Bulls for several months, but Houston has gathered significant momentum as a preferred destination for him, league sources said.

For Chicago to make its bid for Anthony, it will need to amnesty the contract of Carlos Boozer and unload forward Taj Gibson and at least one more player. The Bulls could enjoy an easier path to the NBA Finals than Houston, which competes in the much stronger Western Conference. Anthony has an affinity for Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau, but ultimately Anthony must also weigh in his decision the future health of guard Derrick Rose.

Houston has Dwight Howard and James Harden prepared to recruit Anthony as the third star in a championship chase. The Rockets need to shed the contracts of Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin to clear most of the space to sign Anthony to a max contract. Because those players are moving into the expiring year of their contracts, they could potentially appeal to New York in sign-and-trade scenarios that would deliver Anthony his full max contract of four years, $90 million-plus.

In trade talks, New York has told teams it doesn't want to take on contracts beyond the summer of 2015, although Asik, a center, could ultimately be a player the Knicks would want to sign long-term. There's a market for Asik to be traded into salary-cap space elsewhere for draft considerations, but Houston may have to package a draft pick to move Lin.

The Rockets have the flexibility to sell Anthony on a full-max contract in the range of $22 million-$23 million per year, or can offer him the chance to keep teammates like Chandler Parsons, Patrick Beverley and Terrence Jones on the roster by accepting less money on the deal. Nevertheless, most scenarios that would hold the Rockets' nucleus together would still find Anthony with a starting annually salary in the range of $19 million, league sources said.

Anthony plans to opt out of the final year of his contract – which would've paid him $23 million for next season – and become an unrestricted free agent on July 1. He averaged 27.4 points and 8.1 rebounds on 45 percent shooting for the Knicks last season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--carmelo-anthony-leaning-toward-leaving-knicks--bulls--rockets-in-contention-161206919.html

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6/14/2014  12:48 PM
Houston is the best scenario at this point. Parsons asik and picks. Parsons is interested in improving his "brand" so I think NY would appeal to him.
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6/14/2014  12:51 PM
Looking forward to TKF's reaction!

I don't harbor Melo any ill will- I think he would like to stay, but I get why he's leaving. Next year would have been another wasted year for him (and us). I just hope we get something back for him- him just walking or us just getting a second round pick or something would be awful- some picks/young players, a stinker of a season next year leading to our draft pick being high, some more picks for Tyson, and we should be rebuilding okay.

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6/14/2014  12:51 PM
I wont hold anything against him if he leaves. I personally think Knicks need to move on anyway. I just ahte teh fact taht we lose him for nothing considering we gave up a lot. If he does leave then hopefully Phil stocks up on picks by trading Tyson/shump. Next Year would be rough BT we would have a good number of good draft pciks. Also we would ahve a ton of cap space for teh 2015 class
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6/14/2014  12:52 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Houston is the best scenario at this point. Parsons asik and picks. Parsons is interested in improving his "brand" so I think NY would appeal to him.

Bulls have two picks though, plus some pretty nice role players, and that overseas PF they picked last year.

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6/14/2014  12:55 PM
Great give us Asik and Lin and picks. I like Parsons but I don't want him hogging space after 2015. He wants north of 10 mil a year. No thanks at that price.
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6/14/2014  1:01 PM
H1AND1 wrote:Great give us Asik and Lin and picks. I like Parsons but I don't want him hogging space after 2015. He wants north of 10 mil a year. No thanks at that price.

+1 on all points. If they will include Parsons, great but it would be only so we could trade him. He's a nice player but he's about to be badly overpaid.
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6/14/2014  1:02 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Houston is the best scenario at this point. Parsons asik and picks. Parsons is interested in improving his "brand" so I think NY would appeal to him.

We wouldn't be able to get Parsons because Houston declined his option making him a RFA. That means we would have to agree to a S&T and we can't receive S&T players because we're too far over the cap.

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6/14/2014  1:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/14/2014  1:05 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:Great give us Asik and Lin and picks. I like Parsons but I don't want him hogging space after 2015. He wants north of 10 mil a year. No thanks at that price.

+1 on all points. If they will include Parsons, great but it would be only so we could trade him. He's a nice player but he's about to be badly overpaid.

Melo for Lin, Parsons, 2 first round picks (which would prob be around 25 to 30), and returning our 2 second round picks (2014, 2015) would be reasonable. Those second round picks might be around 35. I'd love to get more but don't see it happening.
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6/14/2014  1:06 PM
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BigDaddyG wrote:Houston is the best scenario at this point. Parsons asik and picks. Parsons is interested in improving his "brand" so I think NY would appeal to him.

Bulls have two picks though, plus some pretty nice role players, and that overseas PF they picked last year.


Not interested in any if the Bulls role players except Gibson. Butler is OK, but I'd rather have Parsons or Terrence Jones. Mirotic would be a nice get, but it looks like the bulls really want to keep him
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6/14/2014  1:07 PM
VCoug wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Houston is the best scenario at this point. Parsons asik and picks. Parsons is interested in improving his "brand" so I think NY would appeal to him.

We wouldn't be able to get Parsons because Houston declined his option making him a RFA. That means we would have to agree to a S&T and we can't receive S&T players because we're too far over the cap.


I thought we could still do sign and trades, we just had less leeway in getting the salaries to match?
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6/14/2014  1:08 PM
VCoug wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Houston is the best scenario at this point. Parsons asik and picks. Parsons is interested in improving his "brand" so I think NY would appeal to him.

We wouldn't be able to get Parsons because Houston declined his option making him a RFA. That means we would have to agree to a S&T and we can't receive S&T players because we're too far over the cap.

Wow. I wonder if that is why reports are that Morey is very confident that he can move Lin and Asik.
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6/14/2014  1:08 PM
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Bonn1997 wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:Great give us Asik and Lin and picks. I like Parsons but I don't want him hogging space after 2015. He wants north of 10 mil a year. No thanks at that price.

+1 on all points. If they will include Parsons, great but it would be only so we could trade him. He's a nice player but he's about to be badly overpaid.

Melo for Lin, Parsons, 2 first round picks (which would prob be around 25 to 30), and returning our 2 second round picks (2014, 2015) would be reasonable. Those second round picks might be around 35. I'd love to get more but don't see it happening.

I'd rather have Asik than Lin- not sure if Lin would suit the triangle, plus I think you could actually move Asik on and get a pick or something.

No one prefer striking a deal with the Bulls than the Rockets?

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6/14/2014  1:10 PM
smackeddog wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:Great give us Asik and Lin and picks. I like Parsons but I don't want him hogging space after 2015. He wants north of 10 mil a year. No thanks at that price.

+1 on all points. If they will include Parsons, great but it would be only so we could trade him. He's a nice player but he's about to be badly overpaid.

Melo for Lin, Parsons, 2 first round picks (which would prob be around 25 to 30), and returning our 2 second round picks (2014, 2015) would be reasonable. Those second round picks might be around 35. I'd love to get more but don't see it happening.

I'd rather have Asik than Lin- not sure if Lin would suit the triangle, plus I think you could actually move Asik on and get a pick or something.

No one prefer striking a deal with the Bulls than the Rockets?

I agree about Asik. Not sure about the bulls. I think if you could get Gibson and picks it might be a better deal. Parsons seems like the guy to get from Houston if possible. If getting Asik means Tyson is moved for anything then I am fine with it.
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6/14/2014  1:10 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
VCoug wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Houston is the best scenario at this point. Parsons asik and picks. Parsons is interested in improving his "brand" so I think NY would appeal to him.

We wouldn't be able to get Parsons because Houston declined his option making him a RFA. That means we would have to agree to a S&T and we can't receive S&T players because we're too far over the cap.

Wow. I wonder if that is why reports are that Morey is very confident that he can move Lin and Asik.

Knowing Morey, he probably declined Parsons option specifically so we couldn't ask for him to be included in such a trade. I would HATE to lose Melo for nothing to that a**hole! Hasn't he screwed us enough times?!

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6/14/2014  1:12 PM
smackeddog wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
VCoug wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Houston is the best scenario at this point. Parsons asik and picks. Parsons is interested in improving his "brand" so I think NY would appeal to him.

We wouldn't be able to get Parsons because Houston declined his option making him a RFA. That means we would have to agree to a S&T and we can't receive S&T players because we're too far over the cap.

Wow. I wonder if that is why reports are that Morey is very confident that he can move Lin and Asik.

Knowing Morey, he probably declined Parsons option specifically so we couldn't ask for him to be included in such a trade. I would HATE to lose Melo for nothing to that a**hole! Hasn't he screwed us enough times?!

I know and taking back his mistakes would make it worse.
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6/14/2014  1:12 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
VCoug wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Houston is the best scenario at this point. Parsons asik and picks. Parsons is interested in improving his "brand" so I think NY would appeal to him.

We wouldn't be able to get Parsons because Houston declined his option making him a RFA. That means we would have to agree to a S&T and we can't receive S&T players because we're too far over the cap.


I thought we could still do sign and trades, we just had less leeway in getting the salaries to match?

This new cba is such a head f***!

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6/14/2014  1:12 PM
Like I said if melo leaves he will be the most hated sports player in New York history.. Also he will be labeled a sell out and never welcome in NYC ever again. if he goes to Miami he along with Lebron will tarnish the nba image.

I Love how people try to compare Lebron to Jordan as the best player ever... Lebron isn't even in the same atmosphere... Jordan never needed rival hof players to win champs... He wanted to prove to the world he was the best ever and he did, by not recruiting other hof players he had hate for. Same with all the stars before Jordan as well... Like bird would have joined magic lol or west joining Frazier.

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6/14/2014  1:13 PM
smackeddog wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:Great give us Asik and Lin and picks. I like Parsons but I don't want him hogging space after 2015. He wants north of 10 mil a year. No thanks at that price.

+1 on all points. If they will include Parsons, great but it would be only so we could trade him. He's a nice player but he's about to be badly overpaid.

Melo for Lin, Parsons, 2 first round picks (which would prob be around 25 to 30), and returning our 2 second round picks (2014, 2015) would be reasonable. Those second round picks might be around 35. I'd love to get more but don't see it happening.

I'd rather have Asik than Lin- not sure if Lin would suit the triangle, plus I think you could actually move Asik on and get a pick or something.

No one prefer striking a deal with the Bulls than the Rockets?


Well the salries are going to have to match. Plus, I think Lin as the primary ball-handler could play pretty well - not like Linsanity but like a top 15 or maybe even top 10 PG.
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6/14/2014  1:13 PM
If we lose Melo than Houston has to be the team. I want Parsons. He's an ideal fit here and well worth a reasonable contract. If we can get him and have enough room for 2 max guys next summer, we will be in great shape. A good fallback to potentially losing Melo.
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