knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:If Carmelo wants to be a Knick--just take less. Hes going to get his no matter what--why on Earth would you opt in? Risk 70-80mm$$$ no F way.

You opt in because if your serious about taking a pay cut, and building a contender fast and retiring a knick, you would have more options. If we signed him now, theres no telling what kind of $ we will have to spend.

If wade was making 18 or 19 mill before LBJ and BOSH signed on, it wouldn't have worked unless both of them plan on excepting 10 mill per

Im sorry but there is no way a human being is going to risk 70-80mm. He can takes less now and still build a team. Unless Jim Dolan promises him a job after his career is over starting at 10mm a year for 10 years to curb the risk--it would be utterly insane. MJ never even did that.

y2zipper wrote:Depends on the goal. If he's already made a ton of money and presumably wants to win a title, it's probably in his best interest to play another year for the Knicks. This offseason, there isn't a bonafide contender that can sign him outright, 1/2 the league has space next offseason and be free agent class is better so he can recruit and/or be recruited.

EnySpree wrote:http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2013/09/201516-nba-free-agents.html

better question is who the Fuck are we getting in 2015.... There are no superstars available. Rondo and Love with Melo? Love might sign with another club this off season, and rondo might be a Celtics for life.

So the plan is to screw us over yet again.

Exactly. Stockpile picks and draft

gunsnewing wrote:

EnySpree wrote:http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2013/09/201516-nba-free-agents.html

better question is who the Fuck are we getting in 2015.... There are no superstars available. Rondo and Love with Melo? Love might sign with another club this off season, and rondo might be a Celtics for life.

So the plan is to screw us over yet again.

Exactly. Stock like picks and draft

I'd almost prefer to have him locked up and a Knick for the foreseeable future- especially if it is a non max deal- because then if things go south, we can trade him!

Papabear wrote:

arkrud wrote:I think this will come to personality issues.
Melo need to make up his mind on who will be the boss.
If he want to be in control he need to go and sign with some inferior team and run the show himself.
If he want to eat his ego and go for the title under Zen leadership he have to stay and take less money.
My guess he would want to be Melo... not sure he can change by the way. He is grown man.
So by-by our scoring champion.

Papabear Says

Why do you guys keep thinking Jackson is some kind of God!! He had Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, plus others. Now grant you he got them all to play together. Had the Zen master won it all when MJ left the team to play baseball then I would say Phil is the greatest of greatest. He didn't win it all. However when MJ came back they won it all again so who was the Zen Master Phil or Jordan?? It was Jordan.
Phil will need the best players in the game in order to compete. End of story.

Why do you think there is no life after Melo? Beside Jordan retired the Bulls went to the conference finals imagine losing 32 points per game and still getting to the conference finals. If not for a bailout by refs on the Hubert Davis shot the Bulls are in the finals as a Knicks fan I loved the call by the refs but couldn't believe the call.

The contracts of Amar'e Stoudemire ($23.4 million), Tyson Chandler ($14.6 million) and Andrea Bargnani ($11.5 million) come off the Knicks' cap after next season. The Knicks could have enough money to sign two free agents along with Anthony in summer 2015. Stars such as LeBron James, Kevin Love, LaMarcus Aldridge and Rajon Rondo may be available that summer.

If Anthony opts in and then re-signs with the Knicks, New York would have approximately $20 million in cap space (that number accounts for the 2015 first-round pick and salaries for J.R. Smith, Raymond Felton, Iman Shumpert and Tim Hardaway Jr.).

“We have an opportunity in the next couple of years to get back in the hunt for free agents that are headline players,” Jackson said. “This year, not so. But we’re going to make improvements on this team regardless. But next year and the year after, we think that we're going to have that opportunity. Can we get two instead of just one? Yeah, that’s a possibility.

“[The] reality of how to do that involves Carmelo’s compliance. It may not be a $20 million player, $16 million player, $12 million player -- it may be a $10 million ballplayer. But that’s the way things work out now. There’s a possibility we can do that. That’s kind of the way we looked at it with Carmelo, and he’s willing to do that because he wants to win a championship. That’s not the end of our appeal, and that’s not the end of our negotiations with him. But that’s a point of emphasis that he opened the door and I stuck my foot in it and said this is what we can do.”

Why it helps Anthony: First of all, he could make more money if he opts in and re-signs with the Knicks.

If Anthony opts out this summer and re-signs, his total contract would be worth $129,135,806, and $22,458,401 in the first season, per ESPN salary cap guru Larry Coon.

If he opts in and re-signs in 2015, Anthony's total contract would be worth $140,875,420, and he'd be making $164,208,823 if you include his 2014-15 salary.

As things stand, it looks as though the Bulls, Rockets and Lakers are the only teams with a legitimate shot to land Anthony this summer. The Bulls and Rockets would have to significantly alter their rosters to create enough cap space to sign him or land him in a sign-and-trade. The Lakers would have a significant portion of their salary cap dedicated to Anthony and Kobe Bryant if they chose to sign Anthony.

None of the three options appears to give Anthony a great shot at an NBA title.

As my colleague Brian Windhorst points out here, Anthony could have more options available to him as a free agent in 2015.

Also, by waiting, Anthony could have a better idea of which players are available in free agency. It's fair to assume Love, Rondo and Aldridge will be available, but the landscape can change drastically between now and 2015. Of course, if LeBron James becomes available, maybe Anthony would be more willing to take a pay cut.

It should be noted, though, that if Anthony opts in, he puts himself at risk because if he suffers an injury, it could impact his value on the open market.

IronWillGiroud wrote:who the FUCK are we even starting next year, we don't have any starters

PG- Steve Francis
SG- Shandon Anderson
SF- Q-Rich
PF-Clarence Weatherspoon
C- Nazr Mohammed