fishmike wrote:Lebron is the best player since MJ and has as good a supporting cast. Lebron is halfway to being one of the best players in the NBA. Ever.

I think he is already there.

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:Lebron is the best player since MJ and has as good a supporting cast. Lebron is halfway to being one of the best players in the NBA. Ever.

I think he is already there.

only two titles. Obviously he's the best player in the league and thats an accomplishment in itself but he bolted the Cavs to win titles and play next to other star players, so his legacy imho is tied to how many titles he wins. If he breaks 6 no reason you can put him above MJ. Lot of ground to cover still...

Nalod wrote:

While it’s easy to talk the talk and say you want to be the greatest there ever was, walking the walk is a lot harder. It is safe to say LeBron James is the latter.

Having surpassed Larry Bird for eighth on the all-time Playoffs scoring list in the first round of the post season, King James has continued to his assault on the history books, surpassing Michael Jordan in the number of post season games with at least 25points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists.

James notched his 74th game with such numbers and it shouldn’t really be much of a surprise. He is probably the only player since Magic Johnson who could truly play each and every one of the five NBA positions - From point guard, all the way to the center position and his stats support that.

For his career, LeBron averages 27.5 points, 7.2 rebounds and 6.9 assists per game. He is able to maintains such those great numbers despite the pressure of the championship period with a 28.1 points, 8.5 rebounds and 6.6 assists stat-line for his career.

Former Golden State Warriors coach and ESPN TV’s Mark Jackson dubbed him the “Greatest Small Forward in the history of the game,” which is incredibly high praise considering all the greats that have come before him i.e. Julius Erving, Dominique Wilkins and Larry Bird. But when you see the four-time MVP continue to break records at such a furious pace, it’s hard to argue against it.

And speaking of Bird, the Hall-of-Famer is third on the list for such games but he now trails James by 21 games and he is still only 29 years-old.

More importantly though, Miami took a step closer to being the first team since the 1984-87 Boston Celtics to make it to four straight NBA Finals, and be the first to win three straight titles since the Lakers achieved the feat in ’02, after taking a commanding 3-1 series lead thanks to a 102-90 win.

LeBron led the way with a 32 points, 10 rebounds in addition to recording 5 assists. Dwyane Wade struggled somewhat with his series low 15 points but Chris Bosh had his best offensive game of the series with 25points, just two shy of his total from the first two games.

DJMUSIC wrote:

Nalod wrote:

While it’s easy to talk the talk and say you want to be the greatest there ever was, walking the walk is a lot harder. It is safe to say LeBron James is the latter.

Having surpassed Larry Bird for eighth on the all-time Playoffs scoring list in the first round of the post season, King James has continued to his assault on the history books, surpassing Michael Jordan in the number of post season games with at least 25points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists.

James notched his 74th game with such numbers and it shouldn’t really be much of a surprise. He is probably the only player since Magic Johnson who could truly play each and every one of the five NBA positions - From point guard, all the way to the center position and his stats support that.

For his career, LeBron averages 27.5 points, 7.2 rebounds and 6.9 assists per game. He is able to maintains such those great numbers despite the pressure of the championship period with a 28.1 points, 8.5 rebounds and 6.6 assists stat-line for his career.

Former Golden State Warriors coach and ESPN TV’s Mark Jackson dubbed him the “Greatest Small Forward in the history of the game,” which is incredibly high praise considering all the greats that have come before him i.e. Julius Erving, Dominique Wilkins and Larry Bird. But when you see the four-time MVP continue to break records at such a furious pace, it’s hard to argue against it.

And speaking of Bird, the Hall-of-Famer is third on the list for such games but he now trails James by 21 games and he is still only 29 years-old.

More importantly though, Miami took a step closer to being the first team since the 1984-87 Boston Celtics to make it to four straight NBA Finals, and be the first to win three straight titles since the Lakers achieved the feat in ’02, after taking a commanding 3-1 series lead thanks to a 102-90 win.

LeBron led the way with a 32 points, 10 rebounds in addition to recording 5 assists. Dwyane Wade struggled somewhat with his series low 15 points but Chris Bosh had his best offensive game of the series with 25points, just two shy of his total from the first two games.

Nalod ..Great points you made ! Bosh non factor did the job. To Indy they rather fret on LBJ And Dwade but Bosh can stink whole series then kill u where it counts same done in Bobcats, same done in Nets. Team efforts

Ali had Frazier, Knicks had Lakers, Celts had Lakers, Bulls had Detroit, Knicks, and Lakers..........Heat Spurs last year was a great feat but not enough Lebron Iconic moments yet. They were different eras as well.

Not sure if this era has less talent or more! International game opens things up quite a bit. Is there greater parity in the league team wise, and talent which is why there are fewer stars? If players are bigger and faster have we made the age of the big man obsolete? Not talking about the "Hibberts" but where are the great big men?

y2zipper wrote:

Nalod wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:

Nalod wrote:

While it’s easy to talk the talk and say you want to be the greatest there ever was, walking the walk is a lot harder. It is safe to say LeBron James is the latter.

Having surpassed Larry Bird for eighth on the all-time Playoffs scoring list in the first round of the post season, King James has continued to his assault on the history books, surpassing Michael Jordan in the number of post season games with at least 25points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists.

James notched his 74th game with such numbers and it shouldn’t really be much of a surprise. He is probably the only player since Magic Johnson who could truly play each and every one of the five NBA positions - From point guard, all the way to the center position and his stats support that.

For his career, LeBron averages 27.5 points, 7.2 rebounds and 6.9 assists per game. He is able to maintains such those great numbers despite the pressure of the championship period with a 28.1 points, 8.5 rebounds and 6.6 assists stat-line for his career.

Former Golden State Warriors coach and ESPN TV’s Mark Jackson dubbed him the “Greatest Small Forward in the history of the game,” which is incredibly high praise considering all the greats that have come before him i.e. Julius Erving, Dominique Wilkins and Larry Bird. But when you see the four-time MVP continue to break records at such a furious pace, it’s hard to argue against it.

And speaking of Bird, the Hall-of-Famer is third on the list for such games but he now trails James by 21 games and he is still only 29 years-old.

More importantly though, Miami took a step closer to being the first team since the 1984-87 Boston Celtics to make it to four straight NBA Finals, and be the first to win three straight titles since the Lakers achieved the feat in ’02, after taking a commanding 3-1 series lead thanks to a 102-90 win.

LeBron led the way with a 32 points, 10 rebounds in addition to recording 5 assists. Dwyane Wade struggled somewhat with his series low 15 points but Chris Bosh had his best offensive game of the series with 25points, just two shy of his total from the first two games.

Nalod ..Great points you made ! Bosh non factor did the job. To Indy they rather fret on LBJ And Dwade but Bosh can stink whole series then kill u where it counts same done in Bobcats, same done in Nets. Team efforts

Ali had Frazier, Knicks had Lakers, Celts had Lakers, Bulls had Detroit, Knicks, and Lakers..........Heat Spurs last year was a great feat but not enough Lebron Iconic moments yet. They were different eras as well.

Not sure if this era has less talent or more! International game opens things up quite a bit. Is there greater parity in the league team wise, and talent which is why there are fewer stars? If players are bigger and faster have we made the age of the big man obsolete? Not talking about the "Hibberts" but where are the great big men?

The great big men are basically playing guard today. LeBron and Durant are as big as Power Forwards were before, and the three-point shot, basketball metrics and uptempo offenses based on the transition game are taking the traditional back-to-the-basket, slow, bumbling big out of the game. Today players have to be more versatile.

The talent differential isn't as pronounced as people think when you look at NBA history. You always have a few great teams and a bunch of bottom-feeding teams. Stars tend to come together more often than ever now, and that's a direct result of the ring-count argument. There's actually more international talent.

The rivalry point is interesting, but that's the nature of sports today. Rivalries hardly ever exist and on top of that, LeBron has come out dominant every time the basketball media tries to anoint somebody as a contender to the Heat. The Celtics were older, Indiana just isn't as good. Jordan had Detroit earlier in his career, but nobody was able to beat the Bulls after Jordan actually got help. It isn't any different to me than LeBron coming up short in Cleveland and getting help in Miami.

The closest thing we'll ever get to a LeBron rivalry is Kevin Durant, but they may not cross paths ever again now that OKC traded James Harden and forewent being competitive so they wouldn't have to pay luxury tax. Seeing OKC and Miami in the finals for 5-6 years would have been interesting but that probably won't happen now.

Good take. We have the whole balance of Jordans career while Lebrons is still a work in progress in a different era with changed dynamaics. I suppose in another era Durant would never have been allowed to be a perimeter player given his height.

Imagine if Ralph Sampson was allowed such freedom to work on his game and not have to bang down below against the NBA monsters! He had the handle and shot but his 7foot plus size pigeonholed him to play the 5! Instead of working on his handle and shot fundamentals instead of post up game he could have been "durant"! Sampson had knee problems and could have been avoided if left to play his natural position instead to his height.

Maybe if Karl Malone was allowed to play a different style he too could have been "Lebron". Magic Johnson did usher in a new age.

Dirk at 7 foot was allowed to play his natural game instead of being made to play low post center.