with more skill on the O end but less of a rebounder. The guy is 7-0 270 and is getting downplayed a bit and looks to be going in the same position in the draft Dampier went--late 1st, but he has a whole career in front of him at 21 years old. Dampier will be 30 in a couple of months and while I would take him at the MLE--i dont think he would give the Knicks much after year 3 possibly 4 the way he is built. David Harrison is a viable option if we can get up into the late round. While he may not give the same immediate impact as Dampier[although I believe he will have a nice impact] you have years to go with him.

the Knicks want to live in the NOW...they want to win titles w/Stephon Marbury & a good team around him...i don't think they're really interested in any more project players...afterall, they traded away many of their future prospects & draft picks to get Marbury here in the first place...i think they want to target a veteran in his prime, like a Dampier.

where would the heat be without wade? etc.. etc.. this player is not a project, this is a 3 year player in the big 12 who faced double+triple teaming all year and still put up nearly 20-10-3 shooting 63% i dont discount any avenue to improve the team, but one thing is for sure, the team needs a C to improve. the odds of dampier coming here are probably so-so at best. you have to keep the options open and drafting a 7-0 270 pound player who is being discounted for no apparent reason[like boozer was] is certainly a strong viable option if we can get into the late first which i think we can. if we cant get dampier, do we wait years to get a real sized C oir are we aggresive this year?

they could get both webber and dampier or more likely they could get neither. were not getting guys in their last year of contract like rahim or walker because we have nothing to give them. we could get webber because if im sacremento i want OUT of chris webber and his long term deal with his wheels. i would gladly accept KT and ending contracts to get out of him. sacremento won without webber anyway. if the knicks are willing to take deeper finanical risks they should walk away with someone with a name in the league who has $$$$$$$$$$$left and a reason why the team wants to dump them.

Harrison is a whole different ball of wax. Harrison is an option IF we can move up a bit because we dont know if the knicks can accept much more salary at this point--we are certainly not assured of a C and if we cant get anyone--then why wouldnt you be aggresive trying to move up just a bit in the draft for a legitC.?


Also it seems as if Isiah is going to give Sweetney a bigger role--if you bring in a player like webber who make s16-18 mm where is Sweetneys role?

This is ideal and I've said the Knicks should consider this as well.

Don't forget Isiah said he wants to be competitive and at the same time rebuild, and this would be the perfect move. A project is an 18 YO out of high school, not a 21 year old with 3 years of big time college ball under his belt. He's got the size and the skills, for some reason his stock has kind of drifted down to last 1st/early 2nd.

Why does anybody want this loser Erick Dampier?
2000-2001: 7.4 ppg, 5.8 rpg
2001-2002: 7.6 ppg, 5.3 rpg
2002-2003: 8.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg
2003-2004: 12 ppg, 12 rpg
If anybody can't see thru the fact that he worked his ass off so he could put up good numbers, opt out of his contract, and get one more big deal before his career ends, you are an idiot. Plus he turns 30 in July. THESE ARE PLAYERS THE KNICKS NEED TO AVOID.

Obviously the goal is a championship, but is Erick Dampier going to push them to the championship level? No. A player like Tyson Chandler or David Harrison or Jamal Crawford, younger players who can be obtained cheap and then can develop INTO these players who are 30-something are the players who help you win a championship. If Harrison becomes a 12 and 10 guy or Chandler who could become the best shot blocker and a top rebounder or Crawford who might become a terrific scoring 2, those players should be targeted, not the Erick Dampiers and Chris Webbers of the world.

Damp is the freaking man. When or if he goes to the Heat, than majority of you all will be crying or asking why Isia didn't acquire him. Miami is so stock right now, all they need is a big man to complement their squad. We need to be as agressive as possible. Damp already has a name, and can at least command some respect from refs, and othe Centers.

Lampe, not Damp!

Damp pimped last year to opt out and get more scratch.

I don't trust him or his 30 year old body.

Anybody notice, we only have two contracts expire or are free. Vin and Demarr.

If the Wolves win tonite, I think Sac can use Allan Houstan and have Christie back him up. Weber would look better here. Allan has shorter contract.

Its a good Star Phuched move if you think about it. C webb game reminds me of LJ. Smart IQ on court, little lift.

we shouldf work equally hard to get a guy like Dampier or even Webber (depending on the cost).

I'd be very reluctant to get Webber because his knee is falling apart and he has four years of a max contract left. I wouldn't be willing to even consider giving up Steph, Mike, or TT to get him.

we are not getting arajuo. when all is said and done arajuo will be in the top 10. im talking about grabbing harrison at 26-30. I said it before any person here knew his name that Arajuo was a Brad Miller with muscles and would start at C.

Ill give you a sidebar on that one. Emeka destroyed Arajuo in a game 2 years ago, made him look very slow and he couldnt even get a shot of against EO and on the other side emeka had 25.

Workouts are a solid piece of information but only a piece. I knew Arajuo was going to fly up the charts because he WILL make an impact right away--he *COULD* be an all star C in the east himself right away, thats how highly i think of him.

when i say lets grab david harrison, im realizing we wont have a top 13 pick. But a skilled 7-0 270 C being picked lets say 27 is a steal.

I have nothing against landing Harrison. I hope we do some how land a big. If it happens to be Harrison than great. I just read today that Araujo dominated him and decided to post it on here since u guys were talking about him. I also realize that we have very very very little chance at landing Araujo.


If we were to land Harrison at #27 that would be hot.