gunsnewing wrote:Things panned out pretty well for Riley in the front office

Phil already said he is going to look for guys on other teams benches and overseas who he feels will buy in. I just hope the talent level is upgraded as well otherwise it's gonna be Melo and everyone else again. But Phil knows what he's doing. I'm not worried

fishmike wrote:and Guns.. Wade (like Melo) is a one and done playoff guy at best. Pair him with Shaq? Pretty good. Pair him with Lebron and Bosh? Pretty good. Too much luck and lucky timing.

Shaq was pretty awful for Miami in the playoffs. Wade carried that whole team.

Wade >>>>>>> Melo

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:and Guns.. Wade (like Melo) is a one and done playoff guy at best. Pair him with Shaq? Pretty good. Pair him with Lebron and Bosh? Pretty good. Too much luck and lucky timing.

Shaq was pretty awful for Miami in the playoffs. Wade carried that whole team.

Wade >>>>>>> Melo

Wade finished. Shaq carried the weight. Hard to compare Melo and Wade as Wade as played with Shaq, Lebron, Bosh, etc. Melo as played with Billups and Iverson... bit of a drop in running mates there. You could built title teams just with the guys Wade has had as teammates. Not going to even both starting a discussion that ends in more Melo dumping and a TFK/DK circle jerk. There are 45k other threads with that content. Lets see something else.

That Mia team was great. Yea... Wade was the best player and had a great playoff run.. but the rest of the team was NBA cast offs and retreads. The kind of team we might see and guys here are dead against. Pgs were white chocalate and a 50 year old Gary Payton. Antoine Walker was a big contributor. Shaq was still good for 18/10 and shot over 60%. Lot of old guys with playoff experience on that squad. Get ready for Phil to do the same here.

Kobe played with Shaq too, and he played with good shaq. Wades numbers are much better than Kobes and he was/is much more efficient. What is amazing is that he did this all with being a horrible 3 point shooter (which is incredible).

While many know he was great, Wade may still be the most underrated player of his time.

jrodmc wrote:I guess we shall see. The early returns are hardly overwhelmingly inspiring:

My PJax What To Do To Save The Knicks List:
1) Sign Oh!Damm!
2) Talk to Metta.
3) Fire the Walking Dead Coaching Staff.
4) Ask these loser players what they think (while looking actually interested).
5) Send Steve Kerr a HelloKitty card with pics of Jeannie inside.
6) Look at the floor when asked about Jimmie.
7) Look everyone in the eye when asked about Melo.
8) Make sure everyone knows I'm a better coach than Pop ever was (or could be).

I just don't understand posts like this. The guy has barely been with the team for a month and carries an enormous legacy behind him, and the same people that were waving the homer flags and praising Melo during our first round exits are now on the edges of their seats trying to tear Phil down. So you support the team through the **** times, but then, once things look up, you look for the first opportunity to complain and moan? It's like these people are allergic to a winning culture.

As for your list half of that stuff is just Phil doing his due diligence with absolutely no drawbacks. The other half is nonsensical. As for number 8, he did not criticize Pop in any way and he complimented San Antonio, it was hardly a big jab. When he says they are not exactly a dynasty it's coming from the mouth of a man that has 3-peated 3 separate times with two different teams. Let that sink in, PHIL JACKSON HAS 3-PEATED 3 DIFFERENT TIMES. Do you understand the weight of that fact? I don't care who your players are, that is fantastic. If anyone can talk about dynasties it is Phil. And yet people are unhappy this is the man running the show.... Typical battered Knicks fan syndrome.

Player	            2013/14	 2014/15	2015/16	     2016/17	 2017/10     2018/19
Amare Stoudemire    $21,679,893	 $23,410,988	$0	     $0	         $0	     $0
Carmelo Anthony	    $21,490,000	 $23,530,000	$0	     $0	         $0	     $0
Tyson Chandler	    $14,100,538	 $14,596,888	$0	     $0	         $0	     $0
Andrea Bargnani	    $11,000,000	 $12,000,000	$0	     $0	         $0	     $0
JR Smith	    $5,565,000	 $5,982,375	$6,399,750   $0	         $0	     $0
Raymond Felton	    $4,180,000	 $4,360,000	$4,540,000   $0	         $0	     $0
Iman Shumpert	    $1,797,600	 $2,761,113	$3,898,691   $0	         $0	     $0
Pablo Prigioni	    $1,591,350	 $1,662,961	$1,734,572   $0	         $0	     $0
Metta World Peace   $1,590,000	 $1,661,550	$0	     $0          $0	     $0
Kenyon Martin	    $1,399,507	 $0	        $0	     $0	         $0	     $0
Tim Hardaway Jr	    $1,196,760	 $1,250,640	$1,304,520   $2,281,605	 $3,335,707  $0
Cole Aldrich	    $884,293	 $0	        $0	     $0	         $0          $0
Jeremy Tyler	    $556,584	 $948,163	$0	     $0	         $0	     $0
Toure Murry	    $490,180	 $0	        $0	     $0	         $0	     $0
Shannon Brown	    $341,979	 $0	        $0	     $0	         $0	     $0
Chris Smith	    $184,538	 $0	        $0	     $0	         $0	     $0
Earl Clark	    $111,518	 $0	        $0	     $0	         $0	     $0
Lamar Odom	 	 	 	 	 	 
TOTALS:	            $88,188,494	 $91,216,515	$12,674,322  $0	         $0	     $0

It's clear that he's gonna have a lot of opportunities to have a major impact on the shape of this roster. If he can manage a trade or 2 it's entirely possible he can make some changes even this coming season. IMO Tyson is a likely trade chip. He still has the reputation regardless of if it's deserved or not and C's tend to have long careers so Tyson is still viable.

mreinman wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Even in wades lottery years he shot over 50%

As a guard that is incredible

He's obviously not the same player now

He was great last year and is still playing great and more efficient as ever this year (55% FG! and 59 TS!), he has just played fewer minutes because of age and injuries.

Comparing him to Kobe, He is a far better offensive player (there is not one (offensive) aspect of the game that Kobe is better at) while Kobe is certainly the better defender.

Wade is undeniably a huge prick however he is also undeniably one of the best guards of the past couple decades.

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:and Guns.. Wade (like Melo) is a one and done playoff guy at best. Pair him with Shaq? Pretty good. Pair him with Lebron and Bosh? Pretty good. Too much luck and lucky timing.

Shaq was pretty awful for Miami in the playoffs. Wade carried that whole team.

Wade >>>>>>> Melo

Wade finished. Shaq carried the weight. Hard to compare Melo and Wade as Wade as played with Shaq, Lebron, Bosh, etc. Melo as played with Billups and Iverson... bit of a drop in running mates there. You could built title teams just with the guys Wade has had as teammates. Not going to even both starting a discussion that ends in more Melo dumping and a TFK/DK circle jerk. There are 45k other threads with that content. Lets see something else.

That Mia team was great. Yea... Wade was the best player and had a great playoff run.. but the rest of the team was NBA cast offs and retreads. The kind of team we might see and guys here are dead against. Pgs were white chocalate and a 50 year old Gary Payton. Antoine Walker was a big contributor. Shaq was still good for 18/10 and shot over 60%. Lot of old guys with playoff experience on that squad. Get ready for Phil to do the same here.

Kobe played with Shaq too, and he played with good shaq. Wades numbers are much better than Kobes and he was/is much more efficient. What is amazing is that he did this all with being a horrible 3 point shooter (which is incredible).

While many know he was great, Wade may still be the most underrated player of his time.