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4/22/2014  6:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/22/2014  6:20 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/upshot/the-american-middle-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html?hp

Trickle down ain't trickling down....The link with graphs are better for reading

The American middle class, long the most affluent in the world, has lost that distinction.

While the wealthiest Americans are outpacing many of their global peers, a New York Times analysis shows that across the lower- and middle-income tiers, citizens of other advanced countries have received considerably larger raises over the last three decades.

After-tax middle-class incomes in Canada — substantially behind in 2000 — now appear to be higher than in the United States. The poor in much of Europe earn more than poor Americans.

The numbers, based on surveys conducted over the past 35 years, offer some of the most detailed publicly available comparisons for different income groups in different countries over time. They suggest that most American families are paying a steep price for high and rising income inequality.
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Although economic growth in the United States continues to be as strong as in many other countries, or stronger, a small percentage of American households is fully benefiting from it. Median income in Canada pulled into a tie with median United States income in 2010 and has most likely surpassed it since then. Median incomes in Western European countries still trail those in the United States, but the gap in several — including Britain, the Netherlands and Sweden — is much smaller than it was a decade ago.

In European countries hit hardest by recent financial crises, such as Greece and Portugal, incomes have of course fallen sharply in recent years.

The income data were compiled by LIS, a group that maintains the Luxembourg Income Study Database. The numbers were analyzed by researchers at LIS and by The Upshot, a New York Times website covering policy and politics, and reviewed by outside academic economists.

The struggles of the poor in the United States are even starker than those of the middle class. A family at the 20th percentile of the income distribution in this country makes significantly less money than a similar family in Canada, Sweden, Norway, Finland or the Netherlands. Thirty-five years ago, the reverse was true.

LIS counts after-tax cash income from salaries, interest and stock dividends, among other sources, as well as direct government benefits such as tax credits.
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The United States’ once-strong lead in middle class incomes is shrinking.
Median per capita income after taxes
19802010U.S.Canada
19802010U.S.Norway
19802010U.S.Netherlands
19802010U.S.Britain
19802010U.S.Germany
19802010U.S.Sweden
19802010U.S.France
19802010U.S.Ireland
19802010$5,000$10,000$15,000$20,000U.S.Spain
Source: New York Times/Luxembourg Income Study analysis

The findings are striking because the most commonly cited economic statistics — such as per capita gross domestic product — continue to show that the United States has maintained its lead as the world’s richest large country. But those numbers are averages, which do not capture the distribution of income. With a big share of recent income gains in this country flowing to a relatively small slice of high-earning households, most Americans are not keeping pace with their counterparts around the world.

“The idea that the median American has so much more income than the middle class in all other parts of the world is not true these days,” said Lawrence Katz, a Harvard economist who is not associated with LIS. “In 1960, we were massively richer than anyone else. In 1980, we were richer. In the 1990s, we were still richer.”

That is no longer the case, Professor Katz added.

Median per capita income was $18,700 in the United States in 2010 (which translates to about $75,000 for a family of four after taxes), up 20 percent since 1980 but virtually unchanged since 2000, after adjusting for inflation. The same measure, by comparison, rose about 20 percent in Britain between 2000 and 2010 and 14 percent in the Netherlands. Median income also rose 20 percent in Canada between 2000 and 2010, to the equivalent of $18,700.

The most recent year in the LIS analysis is 2010. But other income surveys, conducted by government agencies, suggest that since 2010 pay in Canada has risen faster than pay in the United States and is now most likely higher. Pay in several European countries has also risen faster since 2010 than it has in the United States.

Three broad factors appear to be driving much of the weak income performance in the United States. First, educational attainment in the United States has risen far more slowly than in much of the industrialized world over the last three decades, making it harder for the American economy to maintain its share of highly skilled, well-paying jobs.

Americans between the ages of 55 and 65 have literacy, numeracy and technology skills that are above average relative to 55- to 65-year-olds in rest of the industrialized world, according to a recent study by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, an international group. Younger Americans, though, are not keeping pace: Those between 16 and 24 rank near the bottom among rich countries, well behind their counterparts in Canada, Australia, Japan and Scandinavia and close to those in Italy and Spain.

A second factor is that companies in the United States economy distribute a smaller share of their bounty to the middle class and poor than similar companies elsewhere. Top executives make substantially more money in the United States than in other wealthy countries. The minimum wage is lower. Labor unions are weaker.

And because the total bounty produced by the American economy has not been growing substantially faster here in recent decades than in Canada or Western Europe, most American workers are left receiving meager raises.
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American Incomes Are Losing Their Edge, Except at the Top
Inflation-adjusted, after-tax income over time
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$0$5,000$10,000$15,000$20,000$25,000$30,000$35,000$40,000$45,000$50,000$55,000$60,000United StatesBritain5thpercentile1980201010thpercentile'80'1020thpercentile'80'1030thpercentile'80'1040thpercentile'80'10Median'80'1060thpercentile'80'1070thpercentile'80'1080thpercentile'80'1090thpercentile'80'1095thpercentile'80'10
Source: New York Times/Luxembourg Income Study analysis
In 2014 dollars

Finally, governments in Canada and Western Europe take more aggressive steps to raise the take-home pay of low- and middle-income households by redistributing income.

Janet Gornick, the director of LIS, noted that inequality in so-called market incomes — which does not count taxes or government benefits — “is high but not off the charts in the United States.” Yet the American rich pay lower taxes than the rich in many other places, and the United States does not redistribute as much income to the poor as other countries do. As a result, inequality in disposable income is sharply higher in the United States than elsewhere.

Whatever the causes, the stagnation of income has left many Americans dissatisfied with the state of the country. Only about 30 percent of people believe the country is headed in the right direction, polls show.

“Things are pretty flat,” said Kathy Washburn, 59, of Mount Vernon, Iowa, who earns $33,000 at an Ace Hardware store, where she has worked for 23 years. “You have mostly lower level and high and not a lot in between. People need to start in between to work their way up.”

Middle-class families in other countries are obviously not without worries — some common around the world and some specific to their countries. In many parts of Europe, as in the United States, parents of young children wonder how they will pay for college, and many believe their parents enjoyed more rapidly rising living standards than they do. In Canada, people complain about the costs of modern life, from college to monthly phone and Internet bills. Unemployment is a concern almost everywhere.

But both opinion surveys and interviews suggest that the public mood in Canada and Northern Europe is less sour than in the United States today.

“The crisis had no effect on our lives,” Jonas Frojelin, 37, a Swedish firefighter, said, referring to the global financial crisis that began in 2007. He lives with his wife, Malin, a nurse, in a seaside town a half-hour drive from Gothenburg, Sweden’s second-largest city.

They each have five weeks of vacation and comprehensive health benefits. They benefited from almost three years of paid leave, between them, after their children, now 3 and 6 years old, were born. Today, the children attend a subsidized child-care center that costs about 3 percent of the Frojelins’ income.

Even with a large welfare state in Sweden, per capita G.D.P. there has grown more quickly than in the United States over almost any extended recent period — a decade, 20 years, 30 years. Sharp increases in the number of college graduates in Sweden, allowing for the growth of high-skill jobs, has played an important role.
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Other countries’ middle class incomes have grown since 2000. The United States’ has not.

CHANGE IN MEDIAN

INCOME SINCE 2000

COUNTRY

Britain

Canada

Ireland

Netherlands

Spain

Germany

United States

19.7

19.7

16.2

13.9

4.1

1.4

0.3

+

%

Elsewhere in Europe, economic growth has been slower in the last few years than in the United States, as the Continent has struggled to escape the financial crisis. But incomes for most families in Sweden and several other Northern European countries have still outpaced those in the United States, where much of the fruits of recent economic growth have flowed into corporate profits or top incomes.

This pattern suggests that future data gathered by LIS are likely to show similar trends to those through 2010.

There does not appear to be any other publicly available data that allows for the comparisons that the LIS data makes possible. But two other sources lead to broadly similar conclusions.

A Gallup survey conducted between 2006 and 2012 showed the United States and Canada with nearly identical per capita median income (and Scandinavia with higher income). And tax records collected by Thomas Piketty and other economists suggest that the United States no longer has the highest average income among the bottom 90 percent of earners.

One large European country where income has stagnated over the past 15 years is Germany, according to the LIS data. Policy makers in Germany have taken a series of steps to hold down the cost of exports, including restraining wage growth.

Even in Germany, though, the poor have fared better than in the United States, where per capita income has declined between 2000 and 2010 at the 40th percentile, as well as at the 30th, 20th, 10th and 5th.
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Malin Frojelin lives with her two children, Engla, 6, and Nils, 3, in Vallda, Sweden, along with her husband, Jonas. Vallda is about a 30-minute drive from Gothenburg, the second-largest city in the country.
Casper Hedberg for The New York Times

More broadly, the poor in the United States have trailed their counterparts in at least a few other countries since the early 1980s. With slow income growth since then, the American poor now clearly trail the poor in several other rich countries. At the 20th percentile — where someone is making less than four-fifths of the population — income in both the Netherlands and Canada was 15 percent higher than income in the United States in 2010.

By contrast, Americans at the 95th percentile of the distribution — with $58,600 in after-tax per capita income, not including capital gains — still make 20 percent more than their counterparts in Canada, 26 percent more than those in Britain and 50 percent more than those in the Netherlands. For these well-off families, the United States still has easily the world’s most prosperous major economy.

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4/22/2014  7:51 PM
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4/22/2014  8:07 PM
Unfortunately, half our country doesn't care about facts. The reality is most care about the Kardashians than what's going on in the world.
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4/22/2014  8:59 PM
NardDogNation wrote:Unfortunately, half our country doesn't care about facts. The reality is most care about the Kardashians than what's going on in the world.

The world is going to ****. People getting dumber and more dumbed down everyday

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4/22/2014  9:03 PM
Imagine how nice it would be to wake up every day and do whatever you want
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4/22/2014  10:45 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:Unfortunately, half our country doesn't care about facts. The reality is most care about the Kardashians than what's going on in the world.

The world is going to ****. People getting dumber and more dumbed down everyday

Sometimes I wonder: are we simply getting dumber or are we now able to understand just how dumb most people are (because of improvement in communication technology)? I guess that neither possibility is comforting.

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4/23/2014  12:09 AM
NardDogNation wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:Unfortunately, half our country doesn't care about facts. The reality is most care about the Kardashians than what's going on in the world.

The world is going to ****. People getting dumber and more dumbed down everyday

Sometimes I wonder: are we simply getting dumber or are we now able to understand just how dumb most people are (because of improvement in communication technology)? I guess that neither possibility is comforting.

No. Majority of people were always dumb.
Nothing wrong about it.
Better be happy that smart.

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4/23/2014  4:22 AM
arkrud wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:Unfortunately, half our country doesn't care about facts. The reality is most care about the Kardashians than what's going on in the world.

The world is going to ****. People getting dumber and more dumbed down everyday

Sometimes I wonder: are we simply getting dumber or are we now able to understand just how dumb most people are (because of improvement in communication technology)? I guess that neither possibility is comforting.



Better be happy that smart.

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4/23/2014  4:26 AM
The US have always been known to have a pretty prominent inequality when it comes to the distribution of wealth.. Tsk tsk!
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4/23/2014  8:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/23/2014  8:37 AM
I've been seeing a lot of articles related to the eroding US middle class lately. It even occurs to me the term "middle class" is very American. How much of what we call the middle class here would be considered the "working class" in other countries? In the US working class implies blue collar work or a lack of higher education, but I wonder if it reflects our aspirational culture versus a more realistic view, or dare I say "class consciousness".

Our entertainment now includes watching venture capitalists on Shark Tank, and Undercover Bosses. And we are watching stuff like this to relax to get through our work week. To say that half of America is dumb feels like blaming the victim somewhat. There is a strong anti-intellectual strain in our culture, coupled with the incredible power of the media industry that we invented. We've taken the disciplines of electrical engineering and the theater and music and psychology and the social sciences and turned it into this juggernaut that is way more titillating than Adam Smith or Karl Marx.

There is a book called Capital in the 21st Century by an economist named Thomas Piketty that is getting a lot of write-ups. I want to check that out, if I can stop watching cat videos and dicking around on sports forums long enough.

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4/23/2014  8:36 AM
This is all by design.
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4/23/2014  8:43 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/23/2014  8:46 AM
Also, I think the 20th century wars in Europe had something to with this data. A lot of lives, property, and wealth were destroyed, literally leveling the playing field a bit. The rebuilt societies then became a bit more democratic and concerned with social welfare. The US post-Depression also had the New Deal, the GI Bill, a technological and resources advantage with emerging markets both at home (the end of segregation, the emergence influences of women and "teenagers" — another very US word) and abroad. The game done changed, and we are closer to the Robber Baron Age, except they are getting bank from mining data and political influence.
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4/23/2014  10:15 AM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:This is all by design.

Intelligent design, or just dancing to our DNA design?

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4/23/2014  11:23 AM
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GoNyGoNyGo wrote:This is all by design.

Intelligent design, or just dancing to our DNA design?

I assume the intelligent designers referred to here would be the wealthy — corporate executives and the financial industry — who game our political process to benefit their profit motive at the expense of the majority of US society? Say what you want about Occupy Wall Street, their 99%/1% imagery is hard to avoid bringing up when thinking about this.

But maybe we are too busy arguing about Noah's ark and where penises should go to notice anyway.

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4/23/2014  11:28 AM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:This is all by design.

Exactly. Read World As a Laboratory by Rebecca Lemov and you'll see how deep the bunny hole goes.

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4/23/2014  11:32 AM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:This is all by design.

Intelligent design, or just dancing to our DNA design?

I assume the intelligent designers referred to here would be the wealthy — corporate executives and the financial industry — who game our political process to benefit their profit motive at the expense of the majority of US society? Say what you want about Occupy Wall Street, their 99%/1% imagery is hard to avoid bringing up when thinking about this.

But maybe we are too busy arguing about Noah's ark and where penises should go to notice anyway.

+1000. The only real issue we face, which every culture has faced, is the division of labor and distribution of resources. Everything else is just a tool used to divide the masses who would otherwise have a shared interest.

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4/23/2014  11:38 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/23/2014  11:41 AM
DrAlphaeus wrote:I've been seeing a lot of articles related to the eroding US middle class lately. I've It even occurs to me the term "middle class" is very American. How much of what we call the middle class here would be considered the "working class" in other countries? In the US working class implies blue collar work or a lack of higher education, but I wonder if it reflects our aspirational culture versus a more realistic view, or dare I say "class consciousness".

Our entertainment now includes watching venture capitalists on Shark Tank, and Undercover Bosses. And we are watching stuff like this to relax to get through our work week. To say that half of America is dumb feels like blaming the victim somewhat. There is a strong anti-intellectual strain in our culture, coupled with the incredible power of the media industry that we invented. We've taken the disciplines of electrical engineering and the theater and music and psychology and the social sciences and turned it into this juggernaut that is way more titillating than Adam Smith or Karl Marx.

There is a book called Capital in the 21st Century by an economist named Thomas Piketty that is getting a lot of write-ups. I want to check that out, if I can stop watching cat videos and dicking around on sports forums long enough.

It's a part of a strategy to divide and conquer. We are all conditioned to look down on those of "lower classes" and blame them for societal ills. On and on it goes while the great majority don't have the common sense to realize that they are not the ones holding "all the cards" and are actually a part of a shared struggle. It boggles my mind how people with one extra zero on their paycheck (aka the "upper-middle class"), think they have more in common with individuals that have several more zeroes as opposed to the guy with one less zero. It's why I characterize most people as being dumb and I stand by that.

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4/23/2014  7:56 PM
i don't get all the gripes,

are you alive? do you have an income? do you have a set of balls? then you can make a lot of money in this world.

cry me a river.

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