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Anji
Posts: 25523 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 4/14/2006 Member: #1122 USA |
4/22/2014 12:37 PM LAST EDITED: 4/22/2014 12:37 PM
I think Rodney Stuckey would be a safer and less costly pick up.
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
4/22/2014 12:37 PM
BRIGGS wrote: he has the type of game where he will be traded frequently. he is overpaid right now and he should not be taking more than 10 shots a game, and also focus on improving his defense. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
4/22/2014 12:37 PM
I like Evans but I feel you can get Mayo for a lot less.
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
4/22/2014 12:37 PM
Anji wrote:I think Rodney Stuckey would be a safer and less cost pick up. no way knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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franco12
Posts: 33184 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
4/22/2014 12:42 PM
he shot .221% from the 3 pt line this past season. I think the one thing that Phil's PGs have always done is shoot from the outside.
Now- he might be the best player/contract we can get for Chandler or whoever else we trade - but honest, at that point, I say pass. |
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NardDogNation
Posts: 27295 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
4/22/2014 12:42 PM
He's injury prone. He's inefficient. He's shown no ability to be able to move without the ball. He's an excellent ball handler but can't go left to save his life. If Phil vouches for him, then I'd welcome him but I'm very skeptical of Evans' ability to succeed as a core player on any team (especially in the triangle). For all his talent, he seems like the quintessential "skilled but low bball IQ" player. Historically, those guys don't work out well long-term.
Whatever the case may be, I do not want to trade Tyson for another team's headache. He has actual trade value and we need to save him for a certifiable asset. The only way I'd consider moving Tyson to them is if they included Jrue Holiday and Eric Gordon in the deal; we could send back Tim Hardaway Jr, Jeremy Tyler, Cole Aldrich and contracts as well to balance it out. I would, however, consider Bargnani for Evans. They are of the same ilk of player: overpaid, injury-prone and consistently underperforming. No harm, no foul there. |
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NardDogNation
Posts: 27295 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
4/22/2014 12:44 PM
Anji wrote:I think Rodney Stuckey would be a safer and less costly pick up. I agree with you 100%. We could get him for our MLE. Even so, I still like OJ Mayo best for the position. |
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NardDogNation
Posts: 27295 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
4/22/2014 12:53 PM
In a 4:45 minute video, Tyreke went left only twice. Dude would get his ass shut down in the playoffs. He's a bench player at best. I do kinda like the idea of him as a 6th man at the PG and SF (ala Pippen) positions though. He can't be any worse than JR has been for us this season and likely next season with his money guaranteed.
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EnySpree
Posts: 44917 Alba Posts: 138 Joined: 4/18/2003 Member: #397 |
4/22/2014 1:30 PM
Knicks have to trade for Mayo and the Bucks shouldn't want anything to do with our guys
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
4/22/2014 1:39 PM
EnySpree wrote:Knicks have to trade for Mayo and the Bucks shouldn't want anything to do with our guys They could shed a little salary and get rid of an malcontent. Depending on their draft I could see them getting rid of 3-4 players(Ilysova,Sanders, Mayo,& Delfino. If they gave me Middelton I wouldn't mind taking on Mayo and 'sova for Bargs. Keeps them very flexible going forward. They might can get a better deal but 'sova and Mayo contracts are pretty long and if they continue to keep them on that team their values will continue to drop. |
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
4/22/2014 1:53 PM
Divide his salary by ten and I'd happily welcome him
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
4/22/2014 1:57 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Divide his salary by ten and I'd happily welcome him I doubt it, because you'd still have to watch him play. |
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NardDogNation
Posts: 27295 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
4/22/2014 2:04 PM
EnySpree wrote:Knicks have to trade for Mayo and the Bucks shouldn't want anything to do with our guys I still think we could trade JR, Felton and Kenyon Martin to the Nets for Marcus Thornton's expirer. Jason Kidd played with those guys and could vouch for them and on top of that, he was the best of friends with Kenyon when they were with the Nets. Felton's overpaid, yes, but their owner has deep pockets and can swallow the $8 million he is owed. JR is JR but even at his worst, he is still a comparable player to Thornton; when he is "on" and focused, however, he can fool you into thinking that he is a star. With Marcus Thornton's expirer, we could simply trade for Mayo outright. Thornton is a good scorer and can fill the void that Mayo would be leaving, while giving that franchise more cap flexibility. |
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
4/22/2014 6:28 PM LAST EDITED: 4/22/2014 6:29 PM
Don't Subscribe To Cablevision
When you watch too much cablevision, you think you are an amateur general manager. When you think you are an amateur general manager, you think Tyreke Evans is an answer to the triangle. If Tyreke Evans is a component on your triangle, you to directly to the lottery. When you go to the lottery, people laugh hysterically at your favorite team. When people laugh hysterically at your favorite team, women avoid having sex with you. When you cannot have sex, you get frustrated and rob a bank. When you rob a bank, you go to jail for 15 years and miss the Knicks Championship victory parade. Don't miss the Knicks championship parade, don't talk about Tyreke Evans. once a knick always a knick
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H1AND1
Posts: 21747 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/9/2013 Member: #5648 |
4/22/2014 6:37 PM LAST EDITED: 4/22/2014 6:40 PM
How is a PG who can't shoot a perfect fit for the triangle? Am I missing something isn't that one if the things a triangle PG MUST be able to do?
Beyond that Tyreke is massively overpaid and is exactly the type of flawed player the Knicks have typically gone after in bad move after bad move. Having potential (and he has potential, no doubt) is different than being a good player. Tyrekes numbers have gotten worse every year in the league. A couple months of good play a season doesn't change the overall trend and fact that he will likely never be worth his salary. No way do I want this guy anywhere near the Knicks. |
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NardDogNation
Posts: 27295 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
4/22/2014 8:08 PM
misterearl wrote:Don't Subscribe To Cablevision Lol, ****ing hilarious. Great post. |
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knickstorrents
Posts: 21121 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/23/2010 Member: #3050 Hong Kong |
4/22/2014 11:14 PM
The best thing about Ty Evans is his measurements
Rose is not the answer.
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Sangfroid
Posts: 24681 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/7/2009 Member: #2784 |
4/24/2014 12:08 PM
BRIGGS wrote: Now a Chandler for Holiday trade, I'd do in a NY minute. We should have picked him when he was available in his draft year. We would be much better off. "We are playing a game. We are playing at not playing a game..."
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