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Would Shumpert Be A Good PG in a Triangle Offense
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TheGame
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4/21/2014  3:25 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2014  4:23 PM
We obviously need to upgrade the PG position. If we move to a triangle offense, we don't need a traditional pg. There was speculation that Jackson nixed the Shumpert deal because he wanted him to remain on the team. Shumpert has not looked good at all as a pg trying to run Woodson/MDA's offense. What are the thoughts on whether he would be able to thrive as the starting PG in a triangle offense. They lineup next year would be Shumpert, Smith/THJr, Melo, Stat, Chandler.
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4/21/2014  5:29 PM
Shumpert is not a natural point guard. Many times I hear Clyde saying that the player is thinking and not reacting. This describes Shumpert to a T. His whole off season would have to be used trying to get some of that feel. I see JR as a better PG candidate than Shump.
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4/21/2014  5:33 PM
He could run the triangle on an NBDL team
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4/21/2014  5:38 PM
Sangfroid wrote:Shumpert is not a natural point guard. Many times I hear Clyde saying that the player is thinking and not reacting. This describes Shumpert to a T. His whole off season would have to be used trying to get some of that feel. I see JR as a better PG candidate than Shump.

I tend to agree. JR Smith has a better feel for running an offense, which is surprising given his poor shot selection. If he had been playing all year like he did the final 20 games of the season, we would be in the playoffs right now.

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4/21/2014  7:10 PM
Truth be told, I don't even think that Iman is a sure-fire starter in the NBA, anymore. I wouldn't allow him to play any vital role moving forward. For our PG, we'll need to trade for/sign someone. Personally, I hope the guy we get is OJ Mayo.
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4/21/2014  7:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2014  7:23 PM
Shump still has to become a reliable scorer. He finally started taking it to the rim . Iman's first and last job should be working on his game and not worrying about the occasional ugly take to the rim. Maybe the next coach can help Shump with team D. Shump should benefit from less switching.
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4/21/2014  9:08 PM
In his first season as a Knick, he played mainly SG while defending PG and SG's with Dantoni

However, after he suffered his knee injury, he played mainly SG and SF, and probably on switched defended PF's more than PG's with Woodson
He should have been developed as a SG/PG, while with Smith and the addition of Tim Hardaway JR, in addition to Woodson's preference of playing Felton/Kidd/Prigg, he played mainly SF
Iman had the size/strength/athleticism as an advantage playing vs the PG but was not developed correctly with Woodson
He had to even bulk up more to make up for his size to play SF, instead of working on his speed/quickness/foot work/ and handle/court awareness/facilitating/passing etc

Look at Trevor Ariza as a Knick and compare how much he developed on the Lakers with the right fit of talent around him, he was a BIG piece that attributed to a the team in addition to the versatility of Odom and Gasol

Just look at players like Gereld Green, Courtney Lee, James Johnson, DJ Augistine, Kendall Marshall, who were worth absolutely NOTHING at one point this year
However, in the right team, with the right players, with the right fit/chemistry/ and system
Even look at Jimmy Butler *his lead from his rookie year to now when Ronnie Brwer was let go*, Dunleavey (was doing NOTHING in the start of the season), and Tony Sneil
Yes, these are just "role" players but tell me one team that has won the Championship that did not have GREAT role players

With that said, I think we did a horrible job in terms of the development of Iman
Iman has much work to do if he does one to play PG, starting with a better handle, adding better footwork/speed/quickness, court vision/facilitating, and using his physical abilities to harass opponents PG's
While Iman is our best perimeter defender, he is a mismatch at the SF for us

Woodson's philosophies on both OFF and DEF doesn't work and it is something I have stated once he took over from Dantoni
Iso Melo late in games and constant switching while we do not have versatile/athletic/skilled 1v1 defenders like Marion, Battum, Noah, Ibaka, Westbrook, Jimmy Butler, Deng, Ariza, Gortat etc

Worst of all Melo supports Woodson because Woodson's system benefits him and him alone, while the entire team has said multiple times that it doesn't work
But does Melo care? No, because in "Woodson's system" he benefits from it and will always get the ball and opportunities to put up numbers to justify his value in the league

We need structure from the TOP to Bottom, from management, all coaching and development coaches, scouts and players that will WORK HARD and get rewarded for it instead of Woodson's favoritism in lineups and rotations

That is why Phil Jackson was hired, he will not give CA a max contract, because that would defeat the whole purpose of Dolan handing down to keys to him
As Dolan has stated once Phil was hired, "PJ will be in charge of ALL BASKETBALL RELATED DECISIONS"
There isn't much Phil Jackson could do if he decided to overpay to keep him and looking at this year's results it probably best for CA and the NYK's to go separate ways
I hope we can get a sign and trade for him but with the extra 5m added to the salary cap, there are many teams that can offer CA a lucrative contract while having enough talent with the addition of signing him to become contenders just like Al Jefferson has done with the Bobcats and Millsap with Atlanta

Would Shumpert Be A Good PG in a Triangle Offense

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