yellowboy90 wrote:do you think thibs would get the axe if chi loses in the 1st?

No. Not without Rose.

Its hard to win with a Point Center

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:do you think thibs would get the axe if chi loses in the 1st?

No. Not without Rose.

Its hard to win with a Point Center

true but Noah might be the better point. It just seems that CHi might be looking for a reason to fire Thibs.

Yeah ... Chicago does not want to pay him being the cheapsters that they have always been.

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Chi Needs to fire Thibs then Noah force a trade to NY? lol. To bad Noah isn't younger. He is wasting his prime years with a team going nowhere.

How good will they be with Melo and Rose next year?

Who knows, all three are injury candidates with foot, knee, and shoulder issues, although, Melo will get more rest and P.T. to help his shoulders. From what I have seen of Melo as a Knick he seems to put real work in the off-season to improve a certain aspect of his game and if I'm Chi I would have him working on a ton of back cuts. I would do a lot of High Intensiity Interval Training in every aspect of his summer training. Jogging, Biking, running, boxing, swimming, and etc. Swimming might be a good exercise for Melo to build his shoulders. I'm not a physical therapist or trainer though.

I would also, have Butler and Melo work out together and have Butler do more post work if he moves to the 2. He want get a ton of post touches but he should get a few a game ala Wade because of his size advantage at that position. It has been reported that he works with players and he took Griffin under his wing during the Olympic trials/practices and trained with him again this summer during the Jordan tour. I am not saying that Griffin success is due to Melo but he shows players pointers.

Adding a real 3pt threat on the wings that can play the 4 when Dunleavy comes in would be something truly interesting. In the end I think it depends on Rose and if Melo can raise his efficiency like he did Iverson. You can't really sag of Melo like you would Deng. It would possibly give Noah and Rose more space to work and create.

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Chi Needs to fire Thibs then Noah force a trade to NY? lol. To bad Noah isn't younger. He is wasting his prime years with a team going nowhere.

How good will they be with Melo and Rose next year?

Who knows, all three are injury candidates with foot, knee, and shoulder issues, although, Melo will get more rest and P.T. to help his shoulders. From what I have seen of Melo as a Knick he seems to put real work in the off-season to improve a certain aspect of his game and if I'm Chi I would have him working on a ton of back cuts. I would do a lot of High Intensiity Interval Training in every aspect of his summer training. Jogging, Biking, running, boxing, swimming, and etc. Swimming might be a good exercise for Melo to build his shoulders. I'm not a physical therapist or trainer though.

I would also, have Butler and Melo work out together and have Butler do more post work if he moves to the 2. He want get a ton of post touches but he should get a few a game ala Wade because of his size advantage at that position. It has been reported that he works with players and he took Griffin under his wing during the Olympic trials/practices and trained with him again this summer during the Jordan tour. I am not saying that Griffin success is due to Melo but he shows players pointers.

Adding a real 3pt threat on the wings that can play the 4 when Dunleavy comes in would be something truly interesting. In the end I think it depends on Rose and if Melo can raise his efficiency like he did Iverson. You can't really sag of Melo like you would Deng. It would possibly give Noah and Rose more space to work and create.

I think Melo could do really well in Chicago but I actually think he is a better fit for Houston with Harden. Melo has become one of the best catch and shoot players in the game, Harden and Houston will create many more of these opportunities than Chicago (depending on Rose). However, in Houston, Melo would have to cut out all the long mid range shots. Houston does not take long 2's.

"and if Melo can raise his efficiency like he did Iverson"

Not sure what you mean by this. His efficiency is much better now than it was then.

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Chi Needs to fire Thibs then Noah force a trade to NY? lol. To bad Noah isn't younger. He is wasting his prime years with a team going nowhere.

How good will they be with Melo and Rose next year?

Who knows, all three are injury candidates with foot, knee, and shoulder issues, although, Melo will get more rest and P.T. to help his shoulders. From what I have seen of Melo as a Knick he seems to put real work in the off-season to improve a certain aspect of his game and if I'm Chi I would have him working on a ton of back cuts. I would do a lot of High Intensiity Interval Training in every aspect of his summer training. Jogging, Biking, running, boxing, swimming, and etc. Swimming might be a good exercise for Melo to build his shoulders. I'm not a physical therapist or trainer though.

I would also, have Butler and Melo work out together and have Butler do more post work if he moves to the 2. He want get a ton of post touches but he should get a few a game ala Wade because of his size advantage at that position. It has been reported that he works with players and he took Griffin under his wing during the Olympic trials/practices and trained with him again this summer during the Jordan tour. I am not saying that Griffin success is due to Melo but he shows players pointers.

Adding a real 3pt threat on the wings that can play the 4 when Dunleavy comes in would be something truly interesting. In the end I think it depends on Rose and if Melo can raise his efficiency like he did Iverson. You can't really sag of Melo like you would Deng. It would possibly give Noah and Rose more space to work and create.

I think Melo could do really well in Chicago but I actually think he is a better fit for Houston with Harden. Melo has become one of the best catch and shoot players in the game, Harden and Houston will create many more of these opportunities than Chicago (depending on Rose). However, in Houston, Melo would have to cut out all the long mid range shots. Houston does not take long 2's.

"and if Melo can raise his efficiency like he did Iverson"

Not sure what you mean by this. His efficiency is much better now than it was then.

raise Rose efficiency like he did Iverson. There was an article a year ago about how his teammates are usually more efficient with Melo on the floor. I think Harden and Rose would have about the same effect. Rose passes the ball a lot more. If Butler shooting goes back up then I might would go with Chi over Hou because of the eastern conference.

I would like to see that article (if you can dig it up). Not sure I buy that. JR was much more efficient on Denver. Felton is awful with Melo. Amre is not more efficient. Shump? Not efficient at all by cant compare.

Harden is super efficient already but I am sure that Melo can get him more open looks.