but do the Knicks even HAVE $12 million in expiring contracts this year to add to KT's $5.5 million dollar salary?

deke - $5
othella - $3
cezary - $1.5

well, you only have to match up to 15% so if we are a bit short its fine.

Dare I say I actually used this thing but for the sake of discussion here it is:
Sacramento trades:
PF Chris Webber (18.7 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 4.6 apg in 36.1 minutes)
Sacramento receives:
C Cezary Trybanski (0.1 ppg, 0.1 rpg, 0.0 apg in 7 games)
PF Othella Harrington (4.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.5 apg in 56 games)
C Dikembe Mutombo (5.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 0.4 apg in 65 games)
C Kurt Thomas (11.1 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 80 games)
Change in team outlook: +2.7 ppg, +9.6 rpg, and -1.8 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

You have been assigned Trade ID number 1601548

it's weird...the thought of having Webber on the Knicks next year is too good to be true, yet when i think about 2 years from now when he's on the decline & his $20 million dollar contract is killing this team's cap situation, i just don't know, especially because Stephon Marbury's contract doesn't expire until 2009...both he & Webber would potentially account for at least $40 million in cap for the '08 season, & Lebron James can potentially become a FA right around then...i would at least want the Knicks to be in the running to be able to possibly sign a guy like that one day...& i don't think getting Webber would mean a championship for the NY Knicks either...i don't know if it would be worth it for the Knicks considering what they would probably have to give up in return...i don't buy for a minute that Sacramento would make the deal for just contracts...i think it would take a young player like Sweetney &/or a future 1st round pick to be included in the deal to make it worth their while.

Posted by TMS:

...i don't buy for a minute that Sacramento would make the deal for just contracts...i think it would take a young player like Sweetney &/or a future 1st round pick to be included in the deal to make it worth their while.

Then we just dont do it. We need Sweetney and picks more than we need Chris Webber. The Kings on the other had have very few options if they want to move him. The only other teams that would take on a deal like that already have stud PFs.

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by TMS:

...i don't buy for a minute that Sacramento would make the deal for just contracts...i think it would take a young player like Sweetney &/or a future 1st round pick to be included in the deal to make it worth their while.

Then we just dont do it. We need Sweetney and picks more than we need Chris Webber. The Kings on the other had have very few options if they want to move him. The only other teams that would take on a deal like that already have stud PFs.

what scares me is that i think that's a deal that Isiah would make...i don't think he's married to the idea of having Sweetney here in NY...& especially if he's getting a guy like Webber in the deal (you know how he wants to get a legitimate big star low post player to play alongside Marbury)...i think Isiah would trade Sweetney in that package in a heartbeat...& i think the Kings would demand that he at least be included in that deal for them to even consider it on their end...

actually, i wouldn't have a problem w/trading Sweetney in the package either if i knew Webber's knee wasn't an issue, but it's a huge question mark & his contract is just God awful (even worse than Allan Houston's)...when i think about the future cap situation, i just don't know if that's a good deal to make from the Knicks' standpoint.

if you guys could choose, would you rather have Kwame Brown or Tyson Chandler? i think i'd rather have Kwame myself...why not try & trade for him? i think he can be had for the right deal.

i didn't say the Knicks couldn't get Chandler...i said they couldn't get him for a collection of garbage only...sure, you can get Chandler if you REALLY want him...offer the Bulls a package of Sweetney, Othella & a future 1st round pick & they would make that deal imo...but i would much rather go after Brown instead if you're going to give up assets in either trade.

you guys just have to realize, you have to give something of value to get something of value...no teams are just going to hand over young talent for ending contracts.

Posted by fishmike:

Kwame... its not even close. Chandler is a worthwile gamble. Its all risk/reward. What do you give up? Would you do Jerom and Chandler for Tim Thomas and Frank Williams? Thats the kind of deal that Chi is probably looking for. They need a solid 3 (Pippin aint it) and Franks a good no BS defender.

For me thats a move contingent on other moves. Maybe if I can then sign Steven Jackson I do it... not really sure to be honest. I will leave it up to Isiah

Chandler & JYD for TT & Frank i would do IF the Knicks could get a quality SF like a Manu Ginobili in a trade for say, Kurt Thomas...maybe the Knicks could get the Spurs' 2nd round pick as well in that deal, & then Isiah could parlay the 2nd round picks into a late 1st rounder for this season? i would then use the MLE to sign some insurance in the frontcourt, like a Mark Blount or Chris Anderson.

or gets knocked to the floor in the process.

tmac would be a challenge, orlando as a franchise cannot let the man walk or even come close to taking something of much less value. If Im Orlando and Im trading Tmac the first route I would go would be to go after a deal with Portland For Zach Damon Stoudemire[a 1 year max to make the deal work]and one of their draft picks--the higher 1. Thats the model I would go for. Isiah loves Tmac and with Marbury you are talking a big time player a name brand player who you could pair with Okafor Gooden etc... and possibly turn it around very quickly anyway. We would be a player a viable option trade.

Webber is a case where Sacremento has won without him, he has a tremendous amount of money still left on there and the owners want to cut into that payroll. Webber is not an easy trade for the Kings--the team that acquires him will do so at high risk knowing hes not the same player and aging. This puts his market into a very few teams, the knicks being 1. Can Chicago say here is Antonio Davis and Tyson Chandler? yep they could