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Report: James Dolan Stopped Steve Mills from Firing Mike Woodson...
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holfresh
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4/11/2014  10:37 AM
Mills is weak, succumbing to pressure from the press and fans...Thank goodness Phil is here...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2025630-report-james-dolan-stopped-steve-mills-from-firing-mike-woodson


New York Knicks head coach Mike Woodson has been firmly planted on the coaching hot seat throughout 2013-14, but his job security to this point can be tied to owner James Dolan.

Although the Knicks' notorious owner has “willingly and gratefully” surrendered the reins to newly minted president of basketball operations Phil Jackson, per Bob Raissman of the New York Daily News, he reportedly overruled general manager Steve Mills’ desire to relieve Woodson of his coaching duties.

Per Frank Isola of the New York Daily News: "Mills, according to a source, was prepared to make a coaching change on several occasions but didn’t either because the Knicks went on a winning streak or because he was overruled by Garden chairman James Dolan."

Woodson led the Knicks to an 18-6 record after taking over for Mike D’Antoni during the 2011-12 season. NY’s basketball success continued last season to the tune of a 54-win campaign, but the Knicks eventually fell to the Indiana Pacers, 4-2, in the Eastern Conference Semifinals.

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Now, at 33-45, the Knicks are fighting just to earn a playoff berth. They’re two games back of the eighth-seed Atlanta Hawks with four games to play.

Firing Woodson would have caused a major shakeup within the organization, but there’s a chance that personnel move could have triggered a turnaround in New York—much like the one Woodson himself sparked two seasons ago.

According to Isola, however, Mills was not provided the authority to make that decision under the team’s owner. Dolan claims that Jackson will be responsible for all the basketball decisions moving forward, and whether or not that blueprint includes Mills is up for debate.

Mills hasn’t been part of the big picture for long, having replaced executive vice president and general manager Glen Grunwald in September. Despite that, Mills believes he can work well beside Jackson, per Isola: "We’re going to have the relationships in place with players and agents, and you couple that with Phil’s credibility from a championship standpoint and coaching and what he’s done to build teams, I think together we can do something special."

Jackson may ultimately decide to bring in his own personal choice as GM, but that decision will have to wait until what will be a busy 2014 offseason. At this juncture, the top priority for Jackson and Co. is re-signing All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony. Without him, the Knicks will be faced with a long and painful rebuilding process.

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Nalod
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4/11/2014  10:55 AM

Isola loves to stir it up.

Mills might have been right to remove woodson as the team is likely to move forward with PHil wanting his own guy. At the same time, it would look bad on Phil to jusst fire him and install Herb, or other bench coach as there might not have really worked. Besides, the circus has to stop at some time and knicks need to look like a stable deliberate management than the crazy short term thinkers we have been.

If PHil and Dolan think stability, even in a period of transition is the best idea, I can do that too!

No bid deal here in my book!

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4/11/2014  11:00 AM
Mills is weak? Didn't get that from the article. I think he just wanted to make the playoffs.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/11/2014  11:20 AM
Wednesday January, 22 7:30 PM EST vs 76er Loss 110-106

This was the time to fire Woody. Loss to the worst team in the NBA, 5th straight loss, and about half the season left to play. That was the time to send Woody packing for anyone.

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4/11/2014  11:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/11/2014  11:33 AM
Not firing Woody was a good move. The team isn't very good and nothing good would have come from getting a new coach in mid season. All we would have gotten was more excuses of how we need a training camp together and whatever excuse to the dog eat my game plan.

Been there done that. The Knicks have a new president let him hire the coach that fits his style and system that he wants to implement. I think now there is a better grasp of the thing this team needs going forward a lot was revealed by players this year. We now know how to go forward and what players can stay and go. Good move not firing Woody in mid season.

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4/11/2014  11:38 AM
Vmart wrote:Not firing Woody was a good move. The team isn't very good and nothing good would have come from getting a new coach in mid season. All we would have gotten was more excuses of how we need a training camp together and whatever excuse to the dog eat my game plan.

Been there done that. The Knicks have a new president let him hire the coach that fits his style and system that he wants to implement. I think now there is a better grasp of the thing this team needs going forward a lot was revealed by players this year. We now know how to go forward and what players can stay and go. Good move not firing Woody in mid season.


+1
Hoping the organization stops with the short sighted thinking
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4/11/2014  12:43 PM
Vmart wrote:Not firing Woody was a good move. The team isn't very good and nothing good would have come from getting a new coach in mid season. All we would have gotten was more excuses of how we need a training camp together and whatever excuse to the dog eat my game plan.

Been there done that. The Knicks have a new president let him hire the coach that fits his style and system that he wants to implement. I think now there is a better grasp of the thing this team needs going forward a lot was revealed by players this year. We now know how to go forward and what players can stay and go. Good move not firing Woody in mid season.

team had holes but they did not play hard and we lost many games to teams we should have beaten. I mean it was one thing when Don Chaney was running out Harrington at PF and Kurt at center but this team had talent, albeit they were poorly constructed. No way this team should have been < .500

Im not saying win 54 games again but this was a very bad coaching job this year. Very bad.

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4/11/2014  1:20 PM
So Dolan said no to firing Woody because he wanted to leave the pieces alone until Phil came in and evaluated for himself?

Could this be a string of sound decisions made by the owner?!

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4/11/2014  1:47 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:So Dolan said no to firing Woody because he wanted to leave the pieces alone until Phil came in and evaluated for himself?

Could this be a string of sound decisions made by the owner?!

Yes. It may have been.

Maybe they finally understand that making the playoffs this year, though sexy for fans but worthless and there was no need to shake things up for nothing. Let the team just go away quietly and fix it while things are calmer.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/11/2014  2:53 PM
Better coaching could have had an effect. Do people see how bad the top teams are playing? Ny may have had a legit shot to come out the east.
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4/11/2014  4:32 PM
Isola also mentioned that Jackson was quoted as saying that the team wont have the same close relationship with agents and agencies as in the past. Its allegedly what Mills brings to the table and can't stop bragging about. My guess is that he will be eased out the door by the 2015 season.
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4/11/2014  5:02 PM
^awesome
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4/11/2014  5:07 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Isola also mentioned that Jackson was quoted as saying that the team wont have the same close relationship with agents and agencies as in the past. Its allegedly what Mills brings to the table and can't stop bragging about. My guess is that he will be eased out the door by the 2015 season.

That "bragging" part is quite interesting. Is that really his M.O.?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/11/2014  6:09 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Isola also mentioned that Jackson was quoted as saying that the team wont have the same close relationship with agents and agencies as in the past. Its allegedly what Mills brings to the table and can't stop bragging about. My guess is that he will be eased out the door by the 2015 season.
I hope you are right about Mills being eased out. Not sure why he was hired.
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4/11/2014  6:10 PM
TeamBall wrote:
Vmart wrote:Not firing Woody was a good move. The team isn't very good and nothing good would have come from getting a new coach in mid season. All we would have gotten was more excuses of how we need a training camp together and whatever excuse to the dog eat my game plan.

Been there done that. The Knicks have a new president let him hire the coach that fits his style and system that he wants to implement. I think now there is a better grasp of the thing this team needs going forward a lot was revealed by players this year. We now know how to go forward and what players can stay and go. Good move not firing Woody in mid season.


+1
Hoping the organization stops with the short sighted thinking
Agree.
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4/11/2014  7:06 PM
Hey, maybe we can hire coaches going forward on a series one year deals..That way when they have a good season, they stay and when they have a sub-par season, we fire them immediately...
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4/11/2014  7:08 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Isola also mentioned that Jackson was quoted as saying that the team wont have the same close relationship with agents and agencies as in the past. Its allegedly what Mills brings to the table and can't stop bragging about. My guess is that he will be eased out the door by the 2015 season.
I hope you are right about Mills being eased out. Not sure why he was hired.

I still don't see the harm in Mills if it is true that he has a cache of professional relationships that we can exploit.

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4/11/2014  7:25 PM
mreinman wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Isola also mentioned that Jackson was quoted as saying that the team wont have the same close relationship with agents and agencies as in the past. Its allegedly what Mills brings to the table and can't stop bragging about. My guess is that he will be eased out the door by the 2015 season.

That "bragging" part is quite interesting. Is that really his M.O.?

Its what he does when he tries to justify being rehired.

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4/11/2014  7:32 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Isola also mentioned that Jackson was quoted as saying that the team wont have the same close relationship with agents and agencies as in the past. Its allegedly what Mills brings to the table and can't stop bragging about. My guess is that he will be eased out the door by the 2015 season.
I hope you are right about Mills being eased out. Not sure why he was hired.

I still don't see the harm in Mills if it is true that he has a cache of professional relationships that we can exploit.

Still havent forgotten his last time around. He is lucky still to have a job in the league. He has zero bball experience and his one alleged strength is a quality Jackson doesn't need. Mills was so connected that the only job he could get after being fired by the Knicks was working for the guy who suggested he hire Isiah, Magic Johnson.

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4/12/2014  7:03 AM
holfresh wrote:Hey, maybe we can hire coaches going forward on a series one year deals..That way when they have a good season, they stay and when they have a sub-par season, we fire them immediately...

Why not just pay them per victory? Day to day?

Report: James Dolan Stopped Steve Mills from Firing Mike Woodson...

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