When Anthony is double-teamed in the post—a defensive conundrum he often creates intentionally—he almost always finds an open shooter on the opposite wing. In fact, the Knicks have scored an NBA-high 1.38 points per play this season and own a league-best 71.7% effective field-goal rate off Anthony's passes out of double-teams from the left side of the floor, according to Synergy Sports.

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303325204579467580069100904?mobile=y

NardDogNation wrote:

When Anthony is double-teamed in the post—a defensive conundrum he often creates intentionally—he almost always finds an open shooter on the opposite wing. In fact, the Knicks have scored an NBA-high 1.38 points per play this season and own a league-best 71.7% effective field-goal rate off Anthony's passes out of double-teams from the left side of the floor, according to Synergy Sports.

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303325204579467580069100904?mobile=y

Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

When Anthony is double-teamed in the post—a defensive conundrum he often creates intentionally—he almost always finds an open shooter on the opposite wing. In fact, the Knicks have scored an NBA-high 1.38 points per play this season and own a league-best 71.7% effective field-goal rate off Anthony's passes out of double-teams from the left side of the floor, according to Synergy Sports.

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303325204579467580069100904?mobile=y

Your conclusion isn't what the #s indicate. What the #s are saying is that it turns out on those rare occasions when Melo does pass, the team actually scores points. You didn't post any numbers about how often he (or better yet, how often he compared to other players) passes out of the double team.
You can find #s directly relevant to your title. For example, Melo leads the league in usage (has the ball in his hands more than anyone else in the league) but is barely top 100 in either total passes or assist opportunities (passes leading to shot attempts).

Stop making sense with your facts dude.

jrodmc wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

When Anthony is double-teamed in the post—a defensive conundrum he often creates intentionally—he almost always finds an open shooter on the opposite wing. In fact, the Knicks have scored an NBA-high 1.38 points per play this season and own a league-best 71.7% effective field-goal rate off Anthony's passes out of double-teams from the left side of the floor, according to Synergy Sports.

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303325204579467580069100904?mobile=y

Your conclusion isn't what the #s indicate. What the #s are saying is that it turns out on those rare occasions when Melo does pass, the team actually scores points. You didn't post any numbers about how often he (or better yet, how often he compared to other players) passes out of the double team.
You can find #s directly relevant to your title. For example, Melo leads the league in usage (has the ball in his hands more than anyone else in the league) but is barely top 100 in either total passes or assist opportunities (passes leading to shot attempts).

Stop making sense with your facts dude.

And what's really great about the dude's facts is that if you sort your relevant statistics by SF, guess what you see?

Carmelo is #10 among SF in the whole league for Assists per game. So apparently he only rarely passes more than 44 other qualified SF's. Who pass more rarely than he does.

But why would that matter? Assists per game, is of course, a stupid stat that only idiots would look at, since those are passes that led to ...buckets.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avgAssists/position/small-forwards

Of course, in AP48 minutes, he only ranks 16th, so obviously he's a useless turd maybe worth 5-6 mil per year. At best.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avg48Assists/position/small-forwards

And even though they don't list him at PF, he would rank around the same with that group as well.

What a loser Melo is. I'm starting to see the value of hate. I really am.

looking at stats in a vacuum, ie with no context, is simply misleading. you look at the raw stat and think being tenth on this list is a good thing?

it isn't.

look at his usage.
look at his assist rate.
look at the ratio between the two.

then compare those numbers to everyone else on that top ten list.

he will not compare favorably to most of the other names there. sight unseen i would guess that evans's numbers are not good in this regard.

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

When Anthony is double-teamed in the post—a defensive conundrum he often creates intentionally—he almost always finds an open shooter on the opposite wing. In fact, the Knicks have scored an NBA-high 1.38 points per play this season and own a league-best 71.7% effective field-goal rate off Anthony's passes out of double-teams from the left side of the floor, according to Synergy Sports.

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303325204579467580069100904?mobile=y

Your conclusion isn't what the #s indicate. What the #s are saying is that it turns out on those rare occasions when Melo does pass, the team actually scores points. You didn't post any numbers about how often he (or better yet, how often he compared to other players) passes out of the double team.
You can find #s directly relevant to your title. For example, Melo leads the league in usage (has the ball in his hands more than anyone else in the league) but is barely top 100 in either total passes or assist opportunities (passes leading to shot attempts).

Stop making sense with your facts dude.

And what's really great about the dude's facts is that if you sort your relevant statistics by SF, guess what you see?

Carmelo is #10 among SF in the whole league for Assists per game. So apparently he only rarely passes more than 44 other qualified SF's. Who pass more rarely than he does.

But why would that matter? Assists per game, is of course, a stupid stat that only idiots would look at, since those are passes that led to ...buckets.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avgAssists/position/small-forwards

Of course, in AP48 minutes, he only ranks 16th, so obviously he's a useless turd maybe worth 5-6 mil per year. At best.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avg48Assists/position/small-forwards

And even though they don't list him at PF, he would rank around the same with that group as well.

What a loser Melo is. I'm starting to see the value of hate. I really am.

looking at stats in a vacuum, ie with no context, is simply misleading. you look at the raw stat and think being tenth on this list is a good thing?

it isn't.

look at his usage.
look at his assist rate.
look at the ratio between the two.

then compare those numbers to everyone else on that top ten list.

he will not compare favorably to most of the other names there. sight unseen i would guess that evans's numbers are not good in this regard.

Melo is an unwilling passer. No need to delve further.

Keep spinning it. The context is his position. Please address that before coming up with all new algorythms.

Yes, he plays more minutes than anyone in the league, hence he obviously gets more touches than anyone else on this team. Big skippy flipping deal. And as has been shown ad nauseum, he's a volume shooter. You can't shoot and pass. He's not a PG. Or even a Point F. If you want those things, go cream over Indiana with tkf.

He's unwilling? Is there a stat that shows unwillingness? Is there a "he looked off wide open shots by other teammates" number?
He suffers from supreme overconfidence in his own ability to make buckets. Terrible attitude to have in the UK, apparently.

He shoots and scores and averages 3.1 apg.
And when he does pass, they shoot and they score.

End of story.

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

When Anthony is double-teamed in the post—a defensive conundrum he often creates intentionally—he almost always finds an open shooter on the opposite wing. In fact, the Knicks have scored an NBA-high 1.38 points per play this season and own a league-best 71.7% effective field-goal rate off Anthony's passes out of double-teams from the left side of the floor, according to Synergy Sports.

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303325204579467580069100904?mobile=y

Your conclusion isn't what the #s indicate. What the #s are saying is that it turns out on those rare occasions when Melo does pass, the team actually scores points. You didn't post any numbers about how often he (or better yet, how often he compared to other players) passes out of the double team.
You can find #s directly relevant to your title. For example, Melo leads the league in usage (has the ball in his hands more than anyone else in the league) but is barely top 100 in either total passes or assist opportunities (passes leading to shot attempts).

Stop making sense with your facts dude.

And what's really great about the dude's facts is that if you sort your relevant statistics by SF, guess what you see?

Carmelo is #10 among SF in the whole league for Assists per game. So apparently he only rarely passes more than 44 other qualified SF's. Who pass more rarely than he does.

But why would that matter? Assists per game, is of course, a stupid stat that only idiots would look at, since those are passes that led to ...buckets.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avgAssists/position/small-forwards

Of course, in AP48 minutes, he only ranks 16th, so obviously he's a useless turd maybe worth 5-6 mil per year. At best.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avg48Assists/position/small-forwards

And even though they don't list him at PF, he would rank around the same with that group as well.

What a loser Melo is. I'm starting to see the value of hate. I really am.

looking at stats in a vacuum, ie with no context, is simply misleading. you look at the raw stat and think being tenth on this list is a good thing?

it isn't.

look at his usage.
look at his assist rate.
look at the ratio between the two.

then compare those numbers to everyone else on that top ten list.

he will not compare favorably to most of the other names there. sight unseen i would guess that evans's numbers are not good in this regard.

Melo is an unwilling passer. No need to delve further.

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

When Anthony is double-teamed in the post—a defensive conundrum he often creates intentionally—he almost always finds an open shooter on the opposite wing. In fact, the Knicks have scored an NBA-high 1.38 points per play this season and own a league-best 71.7% effective field-goal rate off Anthony's passes out of double-teams from the left side of the floor, according to Synergy Sports.

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303325204579467580069100904?mobile=y

Your conclusion isn't what the #s indicate. What the #s are saying is that it turns out on those rare occasions when Melo does pass, the team actually scores points. You didn't post any numbers about how often he (or better yet, how often he compared to other players) passes out of the double team.
You can find #s directly relevant to your title. For example, Melo leads the league in usage (has the ball in his hands more than anyone else in the league) but is barely top 100 in either total passes or assist opportunities (passes leading to shot attempts).

Stop making sense with your facts dude.

And what's really great about the dude's facts is that if you sort your relevant statistics by SF, guess what you see?

Carmelo is #10 among SF in the whole league for Assists per game. So apparently he only rarely passes more than 44 other qualified SF's. Who pass more rarely than he does.

But why would that matter? Assists per game, is of course, a stupid stat that only idiots would look at, since those are passes that led to ...buckets.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avgAssists/position/small-forwards

Of course, in AP48 minutes, he only ranks 16th, so obviously he's a useless turd maybe worth 5-6 mil per year. At best.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avg48Assists/position/small-forwards

And even though they don't list him at PF, he would rank around the same with that group as well.

What a loser Melo is. I'm starting to see the value of hate. I really am.

looking at stats in a vacuum, ie with no context, is simply misleading. you look at the raw stat and think being tenth on this list is a good thing?

it isn't.

look at his usage.
look at his assist rate.
look at the ratio between the two.

then compare those numbers to everyone else on that top ten list.

he will not compare favorably to most of the other names there. sight unseen i would guess that evans's numbers are not good in this regard.

Melo is an unwilling passer. No need to delve further.

Exactly. An unwilling passer with the ball in his hands nonstop will still get some assists.

Go back to telling us how he's not in the top 100. It sounds more convincing. [no smilie]