Posted by crzymdups:

Okay, this is a crazy ridiculous lineup. I'm guessing you 'lured' Sheed here (injured foot and all) for the mid-level. I'm guessing Dallas kindly took Kurt and Deke and Othella for an all-star. But HOW ON EARTH did we get Chandler? Nice sixth man, though. This is ridiculous. If the Knicks could get Sheed OR Chandler, they'd be a top three team in the East (Detroit doesn't scare me). Stop expecting Isiah to get two former all-stars and one future all-star for a pile of crap. It ain't happening.

The originial post explains the trades. Read what I wrote before you dispute it. The trade for Jmaison would be Kurt, FWill, and Othella(or Deke) for Jamison. This gives them everything they need and want, defense, guys that don;t need to shoot, the ball, some financial relief. The trade for Chandler also makes perfect sense for Chicago and is not vene necessary for my plan.

Posted by tkf:

I am not sold on Dampier... at all....

Me either but he can block shots....that's really about it. He displays good post moves sometimes and other's heacts like he never saw a basketball.

I just feel before a guy like Dampier or Chndler comes over the Knicks need a post up guy. There are a few 4's available. We just have to bank on getting one of them.

Dampier is a fine fit. I just don't see anything we could offer to Golden State to make that sign and trade work. Kurt? Why would they do that? They have Troy Murphy and Brian Cardinal. Nazr? Again, why? Damps is better, bigger and only two years older. We have nothing to offer a team like Golden State. They need young talent and fast. A team like Memphis or Chicago can make a much better offer for Dampier. Denver could sign him outright. So could Utah (tell me Sloan wouldn't want him?). I just don't feel Dampier is realistic.

As for Jamison, I think that could happen. My only question is WHY would we want him? He's a small forward. Asking him to play defense at the four would be a JOKE. Golden State tried it for a while right after they drafted Mike Dunleavy Jr. They ended up trading Jamison at the end of that season.

While I thought the 2002-3 Warriors were entertaining, let's stop trying to reassemble them in NYC, please. What's next Marbs for Arenas???

On the Dallas tip though, Antoine Walker is definitely moving, and Chicago may trade Chandler for HIM. There will be a lot of trading this summer, the only question is whether Isiah can be involved. I have faith in the man, but I think it's going to have to be a smaller move for a lesser-known PF who can develop. If the Knicks do go with Sweets, clearly they will need a larger center than Nazr (Nazr doesn't play large on defense, which is my main problem with him - love his offense though). Do they go for Blount?

I trust Zeke. Let's wait and see...(as painful as that is...)

Posted by TMS:

Dampier rebounds...he blocks shots...he's big & he's physical...

the Knicks need a big man who rebounds, block shots, who's big & who's physical...

seems like a good fit to me.

He plays defense though. Lenny might not like him.

I want Dampier. He's the best big man free agent. You can't argue with 5 offensive and 12 total rebounds a game!

Jamison is a small forward, not a power forward.

He's a "combo forward," meaning that he plays both forward positions because neither one is a natural fit for him.

I would rather have TT than Jamison.

No way would I agree with that. Jamison is basically a more consistent scoring version of TT who also brings about 4 more rebounds a game than TT.

Old??? He's 29! And he's the best available big man

He'll be 30 by the time the Knicks sign him, and you're stuck with a guy signed until he's 36 for big money.

He might be the best available big man, but that's a ridiculous reason to sign somebody. If the best available center is Jim McIlvaine (this is theoretical) then do you sign him for 5 years $50 million becuase he's the best out there. You can't go on that logic, THAT is what's killed the Knicks. Hmmm, best available rebounder is Weatherspoon, ok lets sign him 6 yeras 35 million.

Best deal for Ewing is for Glen Rice and Luc Longley, instead of being patient lets do it. Best deal for Glen Rice is Eisley and Anderson, whatever, let's do that since we can't get anything else for him.

Do you see what I'm saying. Going with the old "Let's sign him just becuase its the best option right now" always leads to you getting screwed down the road. OK, he had a great year last year, I know that.

So if you sign him and in year 2 he's averaging 7 points and 5 rebounds and he's 31 and signed for another 5 years, what do you do then???

OK, and KT averaged 11 and 8, so why do they need Dampier? Because he's a few inches taller?

Sign Stephen Jackson or Etan Thomas, younger guys who can still improve. I'd take Thomas over Dampier for the MLE becuase he might improve. Dampier's chances of improving are slim, and getting a guy for 10 and 10 now and in 3 seasons at 5 and 6 isn't a very promising signing. Especially because at the end of his contract when he is averaging his 5 points per game and 5 rebounds per game, he'll be getting paid like $7 million. Please, not this guy.