OasisBU wrote:I believe the coaching background gives guys like Riley and Jackson am edge because they know how a team is supposed to be constructed. Some have chimed in that PJax has been a consultant and not done well, others have thrown Jordan's front office career around as an example of potential disaster. I think he will do well - the wild card here is Dolan.

Will have to see about that one. Pat Riley was able to do GM and coach at the same time and Phil really did not. Obviously he had say but Riley had extensive time doing both at a much earlier age. He had guys he developed from the D league going back 25 years now. Phil was blessed to have Kobe MJ Shaq--the best players and he was great at coaching them--top notch. Putting the soup together now at 68 years old--you need to travel around the country--Sam Presti goes to like 150 games a year or something like that from high school to college. Is this man--who is older not as motivated no where near the energy going to do the same job? If he was coaching--I think it would be much better in terms of retaining what we want to keep and getting what we might want. Im not saying a negative--but he is far from proven in this particular job.

BRIGGS wrote:

OasisBU wrote:I believe the coaching background gives guys like Riley and Jackson am edge because they know how a team is supposed to be constructed. Some have chimed in that PJax has been a consultant and not done well, others have thrown Jordan's front office career around as an example of potential disaster. I think he will do well - the wild card here is Dolan.

Will have to see about that one. Pat Riley was able to do GM and coach at the same time and Phil really did not. Obviously he had say but Riley had extensive time doing both at a much earlier age. He had guys he developed from the D league going back 25 years now. Phil was blessed to have Kobe MJ Shaq--the best players and he was great at coaching them--top notch. Putting the soup together now at 68 years old--you need to travel around the country--Sam Presti goes to like 150 games a year or something like that from high school to college. Is this man--who is older not as motivated no where near the energy going to do the same job? If he was coaching--I think it would be much better in terms of retaining what we want to keep and getting what we might want. Im not saying a negative--but he is far from proven in this particular job.

There are definitely risks associated with the hire, there is no doubt about that. Hopefully he would surround himself with the right people to help him be successful.

Whether or not he takes the job is still a pretty big ?

How old was Jerry West when he worked for the Grizzlies? I know he had a lot more experience but he was up there in age wasn't he?

I see him not as defacto GM, but the final voice. They guy who has the recipe. Let Warkenten, Hughes and gabriel look at games too.

Phil is also a distration where ever he goes. He is a rock star.

How many games is Riley scouting? Larry Bird (remember, he is not GM, Pritchard is), Etc.

In the end,(if he comes) it all might be a starphuch anyway.

OasisBU wrote:I believe the coaching background gives guys like Riley and Jackson am edge because they know how a team is supposed to be constructed. Some have chimed in that PJax has been a consultant and not done well, others have thrown Jordan's front office career around as an example of potential disaster. I think he will do well if he takes the job - the wild card here is Dolan.

I think he will do well... Phil found Drummond for the pistons... I think this is the best move the Knicks have made in years.. If Phil brings us to the promise land and wins he will be even more of a legend in New York then he is and was in la and Chicago. Both those places got spoiled for the large part of the nineties, anyone that takes the mess that is the lakers good luck... Even if you win one there your not a legend till you've won at least 3 same goes for Chicago. That's why melo stays too, he knows in la and Chicago he'll just be part of another championship.if they even get there! he won't be legendary in eather of those towns unless he gets 3 champs... And that's not happening. Melo wins one here and he'll be the toast of New York for the rest of his life. Just like Clyde! Phil knows all this team needs to make a good run is a really good pg. get that pg with up and coming youth like Tyler,thjr,melo,amare,jr. Add a awesome pg and you have a team that will make a long run in this league. Chandler I'd imagine would get traded for a pg along with shump and ray.

gunsnewing wrote:Assuming this goes down I still think it's crazy that the Knicks didn't just wait til the offseason to explore this. This still might but sucks to be Michael Woodson knowing he will be fired

The Knicks offseason has already started lets not kid ourselves.

gunsnewing wrote:

Vmart wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Assuming this goes down I still think it's crazy that the Knicks didn't just wait til the offseason to explore this. This still might but sucks to be Michael Woodson knowing he will be fired

The Knicks offseason has already started lets not kid ourselves.

Yea that's what I think it is. Why the players suddenly decided to start playing for Woodson with under 20 games left is beyond me

They know what is going on. There is a movement by the Organization to go into a new direction and I think the players know they have to up their game to stay or if they have to move on.

Vmart wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Vmart wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Assuming this goes down I still think it's crazy that the Knicks didn't just wait til the offseason to explore this. This still might but sucks to be Michael Woodson knowing he will be fired

The Knicks offseason has already started lets not kid ourselves.

Yea that's what I think it is. Why the players suddenly decided to start playing for Woodson with under 20 games left is beyond me

They know what is going on. There is a movement by the Organization to go into a new direction and I think the players know they have to up their game to stay or if they have to move on.

Yes and also Amare is in the starting line up... The guy is a natural born leader... Should have been starting even with the minutes restriction ... Amar'e makes everyone around him better.

Even if we make the 8 th seed and squeeze into the playoffs.

Woodson should be gone just on the fact he kept prigs and shump in the starting line up for way too long.. It cost us a lot of wins... Line up should have been Felton,jr,melo,amare, chandler from the beginning even with the minute restrictions . For some odd reason Woodson never gave amare or the big three the chance to develop some chemistry seemed as if he just didn't like amare. Woodson messed up big time we should be sitting in the third /fourth spot of the east without a doubt.. We had the talent all along he just couldn't or just didn't want to put the pieces together to win.

I want to say no downside, but if Phil is going to burn up everything he can to field a veteran team that can compete his mistakes could be very costly.

That being said he's a good BB mind. It will at least be interesting

Swishfm3 wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Phil wants to come to NY cuz he knows without picks, he don't have to scout 150 games a year.

I see him not as defacto GM, but the final voice. They guy who has the recipe. Let Warkenten, Hughes and gabriel look at games too.

Phil is also a distration where ever he goes. He is a rock star.

How many games is Riley scouting? Larry Bird (remember, he is not GM, Pritchard is), Etc.

In the end,(if he comes) it all might be a starphuch anyway.

HAHAHA. So true.

I see the guy getting 12 mils per to be another celeb in Dolans MSG Zoo.
I like the animal over others but the Zoo still sucks.