Since I'm venting on the BEST LBJ, Knickerbockers are in conversations as the WORST, in NBA.

DJ Wants one day in NBA before we leave this Earth that NY Knicks will get their own LBJ "King James", as we had
special players back in the day! Back in day our teams of Ewing, Clyde even B.King competed. Garnered RESPECT.

Today the Knicks have done nothing but gathered increasing DISRESPECT & All this is alright with Knicks Mgmt.,as long as the
stink product Knickerbockers $$$makes money eh?.

However I will always HATE The Miami Heat but Lebron plays the game the right way, is this modern day 'Michael Jordan' torching NBA. There's no team going to knock off their assess again & 3 straight is pending, cause of King James, barring Miami injury.

Once we get our own special player it WONT MATTER what the hell MSG/boss J.Dolan Does. Dolan likes that he's DISLIKED.
We'll win and be the talked once again in NBA. Of Course this is up to boss DOLAN!

Perhaps Knicks bosses need to turn our attentions to after 2015-16 and plan to be in bidding for the
Kevin Durants, the J.Hardens, or the next superstars coming into league in next 1/2 decaded.
The Garden/Knicks has become a Stale place now & I hate it ! Guys do not even want to be in NY for the $$money anymore

Melo leaving may be worst & best! thing to happen soon, and if fanbase gets affected then perhaps Knicks J.Dolan
will see it doesnt matter how' fond of Melo or fond of Woodson OR Anyone you like as a rich owner.

ITs about a winning Pro franchise, Boss Dolan only opportunity to be liked around NY one day.

OFF the court
Use his powers, networks, and establishments to lure players to come over
Ensure player that he will be willing to use the money to chase the ring like The Nets are

He needs to hire a competent GM, one well respected to stop the bleeding, especially mending the broken relationship Dolan probably has pissed off around the league
Finding ways to use his money wisely to lure players over, if he can lure one, it only gets easier and easier to get players coming over to chase a ring

He does have his own network in MSG, can use things like

1- advertisements/partnerships for forming a business, though I don't think Dolan can be a part off because of conflicts
2- a reality TV show

Listen, MSG could be the best or worst place for STAR's
It depends mainly if you play good, have the talent to do well or not
When Jeremy Lin took the GARDEN back, it was great, it wasn't that way for over 10years, and feeding of that powerful energy is truly an amazing feeling
However, when you lose and suck, you get booed, and nothing feels worst....

And that is why we must not overpay for talent, we must find other ways OFF the court to attract them over
In the end, it is a business to the players, if we can increase their chances of winning and be able to put money in their pockets, attract more FANS, they surely would come over
Had Lebron chose NY in 2010, we wouldn't be in this crap we are in now, and probably would have amnestied Amare this year if he lasted
Gallo and Wilson Chandler are both great complimentary players that are versatile with Lebron

Jamal Crawford without the fancy dribble and more fundamentals?

dk7th wrote:what an awesome picture of my childhood hero mr. frazier. greatest knick of all time!

Fully agree. His Game 7 in the Laker Finals one of the greatest playoff games ever. If played during ESPN era, he'd be much better appreciated. Brilliant defender and could distribute or score with equal talent. Amazing player.

RonRon wrote:Never watched him play, who would you compare him to in todays game or recent years?

Jamal Crawford without the fancy dribble and more fundamentals?

Met Clyde and still have autograph pics and #10 knick road-Frazier Jersey Lucky guy I was ! A good guy.

That is a good question ron ron, I was very very young <11 yrs when NY won title #1 with Walt Clyde Frazier, I got more into the 2nd title since it was 2-3 yrs later. Comparisons ?

I wouldn't quite say Jamal Crawford whom was more fancy with the dribbling but Frazier was slick and lower turnover
where Frazier equaled nearly J-Craw was scoring OR scorer without Clyde being known as a scorer-first but the LEGIT 2 way player
with most prowness on defending and made All-defense teams alot. Clyde was like an Oscar Robertson type.

Ron,
you all will find this amazing but I think Clyde Frazier in recent yrs game more resembled Bulls/Lakers 5x champion Ron Harper
Of course Walt is HOF material and even 2Champ rings to Harper's 5 , Clyde Frazier game was more All-star than Harper whom
starred as legit#1 early days in his Cavaliers debut. Harper's D' and assist with scoring big basket was like Frazier which
separated him from many SGs.

If you'd like to compare Clyde Frazier with today (current) non-retired players the closest comes is Dwayne Wade (whom I hate!)
Wade a 2 way superstar with an EGO BIGGER than Frazier (imagine that!). Wade played the game attacking both ends of court
similar to Clyde frazier's savvy, and Wade's passing for assists.

All the past decades and present SG/PG combo guards are much to much score/shoot drive dunk first Or more concern with offense
as SG Russell Westbrook, James Harden than rest of their basketball game skills.

Throw Kobe into that but HOF to be Kobe & Wade were better than Frazier, I'd rate Walt my all time guard over them privately
as a Knick.

knickscity wrote:OP lost me stating that James Harden is a superstar, but anyway, if we dont draft one...we aint getting one.

I agree I had to throw Harden in on his OKC & now Rockets success however though as
Knick fan love to have him here , he's not my type of typical KNICK

My typical Knick is always Defense no matter how great Or how many points they scorch opponent foes

I feel another team with a pressure type of offensive SG Harden wouldn't be so great, his concern is offense
and attempts.

For example if Melo was same type of offensive guru & played SG due to height and went up
against James Harden, you'd wouldnt hear squat from Harden's offensive game cause Melo
would light him so much he'd have to play D more than Offense & that's my point.

Harden gotta be a stopper in NBA playoffs if he ever wanna win a ring.
He's lucky he's in the WEST where alot of great players are other positions.

Nalod wrote:DJ,

I thought a near comparison in todays players to Clyde is Tony Parker. Both about the same size.

Clyde gave up scoring stats to make it work with Earl and he was a great defender.

Just to me over the years when I saw parker I saw a bit of Clyde in his game. Parker does not get the accolades Timmy gets, but neither did Clyde. Willis was the center piece and got the MVP's much like Timmy got his. Not doubting Tim Duncans greatness, just saying Parker was the QB.

DOlan went with Melo to be the star of the team and Melo is that. The problem is we traded away too many assets to build a team not just "AROUND HIM" but "WITH HIM". Clyde was iconic because of the TEAM he was on and what they did. Ewing got us to the ECF's and finals which provided iconic moments. King had basically two magic seasons and is a bit over rated given his short tenure here. It was a bright spot in a dismal era of knick basketball. I remember rooting for King to score more than the knicks to win. I saw his back to back 50pt games. I can't tell you who they played or if they won. Thats what Im saying. Im sure I can look it up to see but memory is of his performance, not the teams results.

Clyde in his era was even the best guard. YOu had West, you had Oscar, Earl (with bullets)but clyde was on a high profile team that WON and he came up big in the moment.

the Willis Reed game........37 pts, 19 assists in game 7!! How you don't give him MVP for the series for that I don't know. Sure Willis hobbling thru a few minutes and messing with Wilts head was big but 37 and 19 is how you win games!

Melo has the talent but he does not have the moments because we are not a good enough team to get to play in important games.

To me he has not failed as much as not been put into the spotlight for important games. Great teams get their great players locked down in big games but to succeed you have to have others step up. Willis goes down, clyde steps up! Willis goes down, Jerry Lucas steps up in 1973. Debussure guards Wilt at times in 70 and 73. he steps up. Clyde has to keep West from going off with defense...........Knicks relying on Kidd, Rasheed, and Kurt was foolish to think it could sustain.

Iconic players are made so by the iconic moments they provide. Lebron is certainly delivering in Miami. Three finals in three years and his play is incredible!

I totally forgot about Tony Parker , nba champion 2 or 3 times ?

I agree 100%
Nalod that comparison to Clyde Frazier game is right on target.
Even both guys have sort of similar ego' about themselves in their game too!
LOL